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POST MATCH THREAD : Charlton Athletic V Portsmouth : Tuesday 17th February 2026 : KO 19:45

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  • Bilko
    Bilko Posts: 795
    When we are 💩 we really are 💩 and with our style of play we don’t get enough goals and I always fear we could go in another bad run like we did when we lost 5 on the trot, please prove me wrong Charlton. 
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,908
    BigDiddy said:
    BigDiddy said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    No - I don’t accept any of that.

    We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.


    The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are. 

    Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
    The posts are always so basic and black and white as well. “Clueless”, like the man didn’t get us up. Like Karen Fraeye. Add something to the conversation 
    He did a great job to get us up, but does that mean he is right for the longer term ? And I think tonight’s selection, tactics and subs were clueless as evidenced by the shambolic display we witnessed.

    NJ is not a long term solution, in my view.



    You may be right for the long term but supporters must realise that if he keeps us up he has done a fantastic job.
    We have spent five seasons in the f****** third division, supporters need to know where we are, atm we are a long way from being a mid table Championship side as we are historically.

  • No match last weekend , similar to International breaks , after which we never seem to get ourselves back into gear. 

    Hugely disappointing although being at home in the warm due to health issues somewhat softened the blow. 

    But with our match on the TV via the stick, I was able to watch the Dorking v Hornchurch stream on my laptop as well - top v 3rd- which ended 1-0 to the home team following a battling & courageous performance. Six wins in a row after tonight & boy, do they play as a TEAM and compete for every ball !

    Wonder what Marc White would make of our modus operandi ?   
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,207
    Dross . Simple as
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,351
    BigDiddy said:
    BigDiddy said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    No - I don’t accept any of that.

    We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.


    The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are. 

    Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
    I expect our manager and club to be able to work out we need a midfield way better than we have.

    That has been obvious all season. I also expect that our manager can deploy tactics that have half a chance of working when we go behind in a game.

    It’s not for any fan to determine where we end up in this league, but the manager seems incapable when things go wrong.

    If we stay up this season, that does not mean that NJ should remain, in my view.

    The owners need to work out how we remain and thrive in this league, or we will end up back in L1 in front of 11,000 fans.







    Name one other manager with Jones' budget that has managed to recruit a star studded midfield in the January transfer window, and managed through tactics alone to turn every game around after going a goal behind.

    These are not realistic aims. We are fighting with clubs with budgets far bigger than ours.

    I maintain that being 7 points clear of the relegation zone at this stage of the season is an honourable achievement from Nathan Jones.
    I agree with a lot of that, but your argument does not wash given TONIGHT’S performance after what we did against Stoke and Leicester who do spend a lot more than us.

    The lack of a midfield means that we can only play route 1 and other clubs will suss that out. That is what Pompey did tonight.

    We are, i am told, paying ÂŁ25k per week for Coady - is he what we need at this point or would that money have bought us a couple of midfielders, maybe?

    The recruitment has been poor and if our performance tonight was simply about money, then I might agree. I still say NJ is incapable of changing tactics and that issue was highlighted tonight.

    We may not deserve to be in this league and you may be right that maybe some of us demand too much. Did not feel that way in the ground tonight.




  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 27,360
    Am refusing to post and will register my displeasure through silence 
  • ns9
    ns9 Posts: 33
    The other main observation tonight was the wide open spaces throughout our whole team which Pompey exploited again and again.

    Those huge gaps are one of my abiding memories from the last Championship relegation, and summed up our complete lack of control tonight. 
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,207
    edited February 17
    MrOneLung said:
    Am refusing to post and will register my displeasure through silence 
    Who said that ?


  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,466
    BigDiddy said:
    BigDiddy said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    No - I don’t accept any of that.

    We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.


    The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are. 

    Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
    I expect our manager and club to be able to work out we need a midfield way better than we have.

    That has been obvious all season. I also expect that our manager can deploy tactics that have half a chance of working when we go behind in a game.

    It’s not for any fan to determine where we end up in this league, but the manager seems incapable when things go wrong.

    If we stay up this season, that does not mean that NJ should remain, in my view.

    The owners need to work out how we remain and thrive in this league, or we will end up back in L1 in front of 11,000 fans.







    Name one other manager with Jones' budget that has managed to recruit a star studded midfield in the January transfer window, and managed through tactics alone to turn every game around after going a goal behind.

    These are not realistic aims. We are fighting with clubs with budgets far bigger than ours.

    I maintain that being 7 points clear of the relegation zone at this stage of the season is an honourable achievement from Nathan Jones.
    Overall I think the majority will agree with you.  It’s the manner of the performance tonight that has lit the fire of fury.  He’s got a lot of things right this season and if we stay up he deserves a ton of credit.  Hopefully we will have enough in us to find 4 wins out the next 14.  If we don’t, fans will be perfectly within their right to question if he’s taken us as far as he can.  It would be criminal for us to throw it away now.  

    If he gets a response on Saturday then fair play.  Big 3 games left this month.  We really need to show up in all three and if we can take 4pts minimum, preferably 6, I think we’ll see that as a good return 
  • BigDiddy
    BigDiddy Posts: 1,351
    edited February 17
    BigDiddy said:
    BigDiddy said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    No - I don’t accept any of that.

    We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.


    The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are. 

    Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
    The posts are always so basic and black and white as well. “Clueless”, like the man didn’t get us up. Like Karen Fraeye. Add something to the conversation 
    He did a great job to get us up, but does that mean he is right for the longer term ? And I think tonight’s selection, tactics and subs were clueless as evidenced by the shambolic display we witnessed.

    NJ is not a long term solution, in my view.



    You may be right for the long term but supporters must realise that if he keeps us up he has done a fantastic job.
    We have spent five seasons in the f****** third division, supporters need to know where we are, atm we are a long way from being a mid table Championship side as we are historically.

    I do realise that !

    Does not mean that we fans cannot, or should not demand more.

    Unless we do, who will?

    Really don't get why people get shirty about some of us who will criticise piss poor performances like tonight 

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  • MrOneLung said:
    Am refusing to post and will register my displeasure through silence 
    Could you just gesture, please, via an emoji ? Maybe that's what we all should do following tonight's display.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,438
    Anyone trying to justify or make excuses for what happened on the pitch tonight is a bloody saint!! , it really was inept, we can usually between us say someone had an ok game but I’m struggling badly with that, I mean Bell is more often that player but he was really poor tonight and not even thinking about the pen, Dykes looked more like what I thought we were getting before we signed him in respect to skill level, he didn’t stop working to his credit, but think it was his worst game for us so far. As I say no excuses should be made we were just really bad, yet again we now need a reaction, I’m slightly worried we are starting to get this type of performance at home a little more regular.
  • Didn't watch tonight but was at our win v Stoke where I thought that game had the tempo of a pre season kick about and we got lucky their winger got injured and went off before we nicked it with TC goal.
    Sounds like we played the same tempo tonight and Pompey wanted it way more than Stoke did.
    Not good enough.
    Desperate to cling on and get over the line but it's going to be very close as our easier games are running out imo. Can't see anything from Southampton, a Ipswich Middlesbrough for example.
  • I haven’t had the will to listen to any post match from NJ but he’s not really trying to deflect blame again is he? Just accept facts - tonight we didn’t turn up when we really needed to . 
    He's said "it was really poor" and "not us" which are stock responses. He spoke of the ref being poor, but conceded that we didn't play well so it doesn't really change the outcome. 

    He made it 17 shots with 2 on target, which tells a story. He said "We couldnt score from 5 and 6 yards and they score from 25 and 30!" Kaminski poor for the first which nobody can disagree with. The miss on the first minute set our stall out for the game. 


  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,464
    My heart sank when I heard Millwall bought Bannon. Just the sort of player we were crying out for.
    Awful tonight. If we’d gone one up, who knows how the game would have turned out, but from the moment he missed it became a nightmare of a game. 
  • sammy391
    sammy391 Posts: 3,990
    Scarily, having looked at the reminding 13 games or so, it’s hard to pick out where we get these 11 points needed for safety! 

    A draw against Southampton will be huge, and a draw vs WBA even better 
  • swords_alive
    swords_alive Posts: 4,718
    ns9 said:
    The other main observation tonight was the wide open spaces throughout our whole team which Pompey exploited again and again.

    Those huge gaps are one of my abiding memories from the last Championship relegation, and summed up our complete lack of control tonight. 
    Thought similar. Reminiscent of the Southampton game. Set up wrongly and unable to adjust. Wing backs not involved throughout. Felt like there were more of them on the pitch. Someone explain please how the simple game is one of formations and tactics and we were undone again?!
  • Pelham123
    Pelham123 Posts: 391
    We missed our chance to sign local lad Ebou Adams when he came through at Dartford FC. Norwich snapped him up back then. 


  • panther10
    panther10 Posts: 267
    Im actually quiet concerned now tbh , tough games ahead 
  • thewolfboy
    thewolfboy Posts: 2,974
    Bookings and penalty looked harsh...but on another day Ramsey could have given them another two penalties!
    Tonight we didn't win the second ball very often.
    Thought Fevrier did well but overall we were second best on an awful night.

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,240
    It sums up the Championship, that the first side to do the double over us isn't one of the promotion candidates, but fellow strugglers Pompey. I've never felt Pompey would go down anyway, Mousinho is a good manager with the backing of the fans.

    In the Championship, a winning formation usually gets found out by the better managers, and Pompey tonight clearly had been studying our last 3 games, and worked out how to neutralise our wingbacks, thus removing the attacking threat from wide areas to our two big strikers. And once Plan A is stopped, we won't have many other attacking open play strategies, as our midfield is so limited going forward. Rankin-Costello isn't perfect, but at least he can play on the half turn, so that he can bring the ball forward after receiving a pass, instead of just hooking it on aimlessly.

    The Kaminski howler really didn't help though, as we're not the sort of team that reacts well to going behind. Add a referee who was way too one sided in the first half (and seemed to be trying to balance it up at the end of the match with far more obvious penalties not given) and it wasn't a good night.




  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,470
    Referee was appalling. Even by the astonishingly atrocious referees that get churned out now, this guy had main character syndrome and got a gane changing big call wrong as well as some ridiculous bookings whilst buying then failing to do anything about all the gamesmanship (cheating) by the Portsmouth team. 

    The first goal was a cold water shock, awful goal keeping, the penalty killed us. 

    They out muscled us and moved the ball a lot better. I can't say we deserved anything however the referee dictated our players were scared to play with physicality or intensity needed. I'm not making excuses, they were shit tonight and that result has undone the positivity of the last few weeks 
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,374
    we were awful, in a moment of insanity figured I need to be in Banbury for a meeting next weds at 7am and instead of leaving Bexley at 4am have decided on an overnight stay in west Brom and go to the game travelodge for night and ticket less than 60 quid bargain! after a site survey in Berkhamsted on the way up, am also heading to Southampton on Saturday so something has to give. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,801
    sammy391 said:
    Scarily, having looked at the reminding 13 games or so, it’s hard to pick out where we get these 11 points needed for safety! 

    A draw against Southampton will be huge, and a draw vs WBA even better 
    I’ve been tracking all the games remaining for the last few months and whilst you always get some surprises, I think 11 more points is a big ask

    I mean, it was really a game we couldn’t  afford to lose, but a draw would have been ok as a minimum. But we did lose, so nothing we can do about that now.

    Main issues for us is that the other teams around us are showing more fight and desire and (being totally honest) in terms of skill and overall capability, we are one of the worst three teams in the league.

    We just have to hope we can get 2 or 3 more Sheff Utd type surprises as I really fear this lot don’t have the minerals for a true 6 pointer like West Brom away.

    We had one tonight and fucked it up, so it doesn’t bode well.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 1,438
    Would love to see the referees adjudication panels report on that performance tonight, surely it would make interesting reading. Absolutely not an excuse for how shit we were, but the bloke has to get some blowback for it with a few games in the Sunday league.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,027
    But we gave a player called Février his début in February.
    Supporting this Charlton team doesn't get much more exciting than that.
    And I managed to legitimately get two accents into one English sentence - yay!
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,979
    But we gave a player called Février his début in February.
    Supporting this Charlton team doesn't get much more exciting than that.
    And I managed to legitimately get two accents into one English sentence - yay!
    And he scored. It’s an omen - if only I knew what for. 
  • But we gave a player called FĂ©vrier his dĂ©but in February.
    Supporting this Charlton team doesn't get much more exciting than that.
    And I managed to legitimately get two accents into one English sentence - yay!
    And he scored. It’s an omen - if only I knew what for. 
    Well I'd suggest it means we need to bring in Solly March for next month's games and Alfie May for the final weeks and we should be ok. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 16,580
    But we gave a player called Février his début in February.
    Supporting this Charlton team doesn't get much more exciting than that.
    And I managed to legitimately get two accents into one English sentence - yay!
    Wasn't his debut though, that was on the 31st of January
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,243
    BigDiddy said:
    The first few pages of these threads are always angry posts with little longer term perspective.

    We're at 7 points from 12 since the Millwall performance - not terrible for a relegation-fighting team. We're also 7 points from the relegation spots and have shown real fight Vs Stoke and QPR.

    I thought a few things went against us today early in the game and it was enough to rock us. 

    1. The ref simply wouldn't allow any contact between players which goes against our playing style.

    2. Kiminski gifting Pompey a goal

    3. A terrible decision by the ref to award a penalty

    It's disappointing we couldn't recover but that's life in the Championship. Those whining and moaning about where we are in the table would be happier if we were 4th in League One. We're a new championship team - these results will happen.

    For what's it worth, I thought the Portsmouth players were a credit to their badge tonight. Fought really hard and deserved the win. 
    No - I don’t accept any of that.

    We were shite tonight and NJ is clueless when things go wrong.


    The problem with posts like that is that you never set out what your expectations are. 

    Do you think we should be comfortably mid table?
    I dont think we should be in any particular position after 32 matches. But what I do expect is to see some actual football being played. Passes from midfield along the floor for forwards to run onto. No wonder why Kelman can't score in this team - look at the goals he scored last season & compare that to the chances he has been given this. 

    I also expect wingers to cross the ball for strikers to attack. Leaburn is 6ft 5 but not once did he have a ball to run onto & head at goal. Was the Leicester match an aberration & tonight the norm ? Or was tonight the outlier & on Saturday we'll see Clarke & Chambers whipping in crosses for the strikers to attack ?

    TC had pace & trickery but 90% of the time he beats his defender & then creates very little. Feverier did more & scored to boot. 

    We may stay up but by God if NJ doesn't change his tactics/ formation for next season I couldn't stand another year of this mediocrity.