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  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 27,109
    ButtleJR said:


    Legend? why?
    Haven’t you heard of Samuel Donald Philpot…legend mate…😉
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,489
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Yeah we need better than Dykes if we go 1 up top, needs to be a striker at least on a par with Kelman and Godden's scoring prowess
    There’s no point having 3 strikers who are exactly the same, at least dykes gives u an option to go direct in the last 5-10mins when ur applying pressure, Kelman and Godden come nowhere close to him physically 
    But that's my point, we need a player that is similar in stature to Miles and Dykes, but they need to have better scoring prowess than Dykes did to make it worthwhile, IMO. 

    Problem is strikers like that are like hens teeth, but if we're serious about moving forwards and evolving under Jones this season, I don't think Dykes is the answer 
    If you get a forward with Dykes physicality and Kelman/Godden finishing your basically asking for a striker that’s going to cost you 15-20M. 
    This is one of the craziest posts on here. Dykes and Kelman combination would be worth 20 million 😂😂
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 27,109
    edited July 15
    J BLOCK said:
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Yeah we need better than Dykes if we go 1 up top, needs to be a striker at least on a par with Kelman and Godden's scoring prowess
    There’s no point having 3 strikers who are exactly the same, at least dykes gives u an option to go direct in the last 5-10mins when ur applying pressure, Kelman and Godden come nowhere close to him physically 
    But that's my point, we need a player that is similar in stature to Miles and Dykes, but they need to have better scoring prowess than Dykes did to make it worthwhile, IMO. 

    Problem is strikers like that are like hens teeth, but if we're serious about moving forwards and evolving under Jones this season, I don't think Dykes is the answer 
    If you get a forward with Dykes physicality and Kelman/Godden finishing your basically asking for a striker that’s going to cost you 15-20M. 
    This is one of the craziest posts on here. Dykes and Kelman combination would be worth 20 million 😂😂
    That wasn't what was said...
  • TheHerminator
    TheHerminator Posts: 1,124
    arny23394 said:
    Really really don’t want Dykes back. Going into next season with the exact same strike force as last season would be insanity. 
    Be patient. The club have it all under control. 
    Why make promises about disappearing for a while if you just instantly post again?

    You get everyone's hopes up. It's mean
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 2,249
    J BLOCK said:
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Yeah we need better than Dykes if we go 1 up top, needs to be a striker at least on a par with Kelman and Godden's scoring prowess
    There’s no point having 3 strikers who are exactly the same, at least dykes gives u an option to go direct in the last 5-10mins when ur applying pressure, Kelman and Godden come nowhere close to him physically 
    But that's my point, we need a player that is similar in stature to Miles and Dykes, but they need to have better scoring prowess than Dykes did to make it worthwhile, IMO. 

    Problem is strikers like that are like hens teeth, but if we're serious about moving forwards and evolving under Jones this season, I don't think Dykes is the answer 
    If you get a forward with Dykes physicality and Kelman/Godden finishing your basically asking for a striker that’s going to cost you 15-20M. 
    This is one of the craziest posts on here. Dykes and Kelman combination would be worth 20 million 😂😂
    Kelman is arguably one of the best finishers in this league, I know expected goals is like marmite to some people but statistically he was the 3rd best striker this season in terms of finishing. 

    Dykes has 40 goals in 197 championship games which is not great for a striker yet somehow convinced teams he’s been good enough to spend 5 seasons in the championship. 

    You will struggle to get a better finisher than Kelman or someone who’s better physically than Dykes which is worth a lot of money. When you take the best part of them they’re amazing it’s just they both lack massively outside that trait 
     
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 10,185
    J BLOCK said:
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Yeah we need better than Dykes if we go 1 up top, needs to be a striker at least on a par with Kelman and Godden's scoring prowess
    There’s no point having 3 strikers who are exactly the same, at least dykes gives u an option to go direct in the last 5-10mins when ur applying pressure, Kelman and Godden come nowhere close to him physically 
    But that's my point, we need a player that is similar in stature to Miles and Dykes, but they need to have better scoring prowess than Dykes did to make it worthwhile, IMO. 

    Problem is strikers like that are like hens teeth, but if we're serious about moving forwards and evolving under Jones this season, I don't think Dykes is the answer 
    If you get a forward with Dykes physicality and Kelman/Godden finishing your basically asking for a striker that’s going to cost you 15-20M. 
    This is one of the craziest posts on here. Dykes and Kelman combination would be worth 20 million 😂😂
    That wasn't what was said...
    Don't even think it's too wrong. A striker with the finishing and movement of Kelman and the physicality of Dykes would be such a rare combo you'd be looking at £15m+ comfortably. 
  • ValleyLocal
    ValleyLocal Posts: 38
    J BLOCK said:
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Yeah we need better than Dykes if we go 1 up top, needs to be a striker at least on a par with Kelman and Godden's scoring prowess
    There’s no point having 3 strikers who are exactly the same, at least dykes gives u an option to go direct in the last 5-10mins when ur applying pressure, Kelman and Godden come nowhere close to him physically 
    But that's my point, we need a player that is similar in stature to Miles and Dykes, but they need to have better scoring prowess than Dykes did to make it worthwhile, IMO. 

    Problem is strikers like that are like hens teeth, but if we're serious about moving forwards and evolving under Jones this season, I don't think Dykes is the answer 
    If you get a forward with Dykes physicality and Kelman/Godden finishing your basically asking for a striker that’s going to cost you 15-20M. 
    This is one of the craziest posts on here. Dykes and Kelman combination would be worth 20 million 😂😂
    Kelman is arguably one of the best finishers in this league, I know expected goals is like marmite to some people but statistically he was the 3rd best striker this season in terms of finishing. 

    Dykes has 40 goals in 197 championship games which is not great for a striker yet somehow convinced teams he’s been good enough to spend 5 seasons in the championship. 

    You will struggle to get a better finisher than Kelman or someone who’s better physically than Dykes which is worth a lot of money. When you take the best part of them they’re amazing it’s just they both lack massively outside that trait 
     
    You have seen something no scouts from top end Championship clubs have seen then. 
  • Pavoren007
    Pavoren007 Posts: 2,638
    World and Euro Cup summers are always more difficult. Not because we are fishing in the international player pond but because of the chain reactions caused by player signings as soon as those comps are out of the way. A top Champ club with loads of dosh may try to land a couple of WC featuring international strikers (lesser teams) and before you know it the door opens for one or two departures from their existing squad.

    I am not at all panicking yet but hope we do get a few more in within the next fortnight to at least get a bit of gelling in place ahead of the season openers. 

    Think we will need a strong start again. 
  • DennisBooth
    DennisBooth Posts: 234
    Crispywood said:t
    J BLOCK said:
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Yeah we need better than Dykes if we go 1 up top, needs to be a striker at least on a par with Kelman and Godden's scoring prowess
    There’s no point having 3 strikers who are exactly the same, at least dykes gives u an option to go direct in the last 5-10mins when ur applying pressure, Kelman and Godden come nowhere close to him physically 
    But that's my point, we need a player that is similar in stature to Miles and Dykes, but they need to have better scoring prowess than Dykes did to make it worthwhile, IMO. 

    Problem is strikers like that are like hens teeth, but if we're serious about moving forwards and evolving under Jones this season, I don't think Dykes is the answer 
    If you get a forward with Dykes physicality and Kelman/Godden finishing your basically asking for a striker that’s going to cost you 15-20M. 
    This is one of the craziest posts on here. Dykes and Kelman combination would be worth 20 million 😂😂
    Kelman is arguably one of the best finishers in this league, I know expected goals is like marmite to some people but statistically he was the 3rd best striker this season in terms of finishing. 

    Dykes has 40 goals in 197 championship games which is not great for a striker yet somehow convinced teams he’s been good enough to spend 5 seasons in the championship. 

    You will struggle to get a better finisher than Kelman or someone who’s better physically than Dykes which is worth a lot of money. When you take the best part of them they’re amazing it’s just they both lack massively outside that trait 
     
    He is not one of the best finishers in the League, get real.So Dykes has got a good physique. So has Anthony Joshua but I wouldn’t want him playing for us.

    1Swansea City
    Žan Vipotnik
    App.
    44
    Goals
    23
    2Hull City
    Oliver McBurnie
    4018
    3Coventry City
    Haji Wright
    4017
    4=Wrexham
    Josh Windass
    4116
    4=Ipswich Town
    Jack Clarke
    4616
    6Hull City
    Joe Gelhardt
    4215
    7Middlesbrough
    Morgan Whittaker
    4314
    8=Coventry City
    Brandon Thomas-Asante
    3213
    8=Coventry City
    Ellis Simms
    4313
    8=Middlesbrough
    Tommy Conway
    4813
    11=Sheffield United
    Patrick Bamford
    2812
    11=Derby County
    Carlton Morris
    3112
    11=Ipswich Town
    Jaden Philogene-Bidace
    3512
    14=Southampton
    Adam Armstrong
    2911
    14=Leicester City
    Jordan James
    3411
    14=Millwall
    Femi Azeez
    3711
    14=Portsmouth
    Adrian Segecic
    3811
    14=Wrexham
    Kieffer Moore
    3911
    14=Ipswich Town
    George Hirst
    4211
    14=Oxford United
    Will Lankshear
    4411
    14=Southampton
    Finn Azaz
    4511
    14=Bristol City
    Scott Twine
    4511
    23=Norwich City
    Jovon Makama
    2810
    23=Queens Park Rangers
    Rumarn Burrell
    3010
    23=Birmingham City
    Marvin Ducksch
    3310
    23=Derby County
    Patrick Agyemang
    3710
    23=Preston North End
    Lewis Dobbin
    3910
    23=Coventry City
    Victor Torp
    3910
    23=Coventry City
    Ephron Mason-Clark
    4210
    23=Queens Park Rangers
    Richard Kone

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 20,221
    Swisdom said:
    Kelman is only ever a potent striker if he is given service.  He's more of a sniffer than Godden but if we play like we did last season he won't be productive.
    We desperately need a creative spark or two to enable us to get the best from him
    Oh yeah, that goal to confirm we stayed up was all down to the service and him being a sniffer wasn't it? He is a sniffer you're right but he's much more than that, he just needs a bit of space and having a strike partner doesn't always provide that
  • SouthLincsAddick
    SouthLincsAddick Posts: 706
    edited July 15
    Some fans make me laugh, there’s a good chance Dykes will go elsewhere because another club offers more money (probs Preston, knowing their form) but our fans say we can do better. Well, if we couldn’t afford Dykes how is that going to happen? Are we going to unearth a gem striker for pennies, isn’t that what every other professional club in the world trying to do, some are more successful than others (Brentford, Bournemouth and Brighton), who spent years building an infrastructure to achieve it, we have Phil Chapple and NJ who was convinced Ahadme was worth the money. I think a bit of realism is needed.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 20,221
    Some fans make me laugh, there’s a good chance Dykes will go elsewhere because another club offers more money (probs Preston, knowing their form) but our fans say we can do better. Well, if we couldn’t afford Dykes how is that going to happen? 
    Because we don't know what wages we're offering and for what role. We will have a wage structure and he isn't really worth breaking it for. It isn't really about not being able to afford him as much as not being willing to pay what he thinks he's worth
  • fenaddick said:
    Some fans make me laugh, there’s a good chance Dykes will go elsewhere because another club offers more money (probs Preston, knowing their form) but our fans say we can do better. Well, if we couldn’t afford Dykes how is that going to happen? 
    Because we don't know what wages we're offering and for what role. We will have a wage structure and he isn't really worth breaking it for. It isn't really about not being able to afford him as much as not being willing to pay what he thinks he's worth
    Do you really think we've lowballed him that much, because he'd only be coming in as an impact sub? We'd already have had to offer less because there's no way we could match his Birmingham wages. It feels like a lot of clutching at straws and hoping we'll somehow land a proven goalscorer for the sort of transfer fee and wages we've got available.
  • SteveACS
    SteveACS Posts: 520
    I've said before, and I'll say it again...

    Dykes played in the current Wirld Cup...

    As a metric, which better striker in this Wirld Cup do yo think Charlton could afford? Transfer fee and and wages.

    Temper your expectations...
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 38,984
    J BLOCK said:
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Yeah we need better than Dykes if we go 1 up top, needs to be a striker at least on a par with Kelman and Godden's scoring prowess
    There’s no point having 3 strikers who are exactly the same, at least dykes gives u an option to go direct in the last 5-10mins when ur applying pressure, Kelman and Godden come nowhere close to him physically 
    But that's my point, we need a player that is similar in stature to Miles and Dykes, but they need to have better scoring prowess than Dykes did to make it worthwhile, IMO. 

    Problem is strikers like that are like hens teeth, but if we're serious about moving forwards and evolving under Jones this season, I don't think Dykes is the answer 
    If you get a forward with Dykes physicality and Kelman/Godden finishing your basically asking for a striker that’s going to cost you 15-20M. 
    This is one of the craziest posts on here. Dykes and Kelman combination would be worth 20 million 😂😂
    Kelman is arguably one of the best finishers in this league, I know expected goals is like marmite to some people but statistically he was the 3rd best striker this season in terms of finishing. 

    Dykes has 40 goals in 197 championship games which is not great for a striker yet somehow convinced teams he’s been good enough to spend 5 seasons in the championship. 

    You will struggle to get a better finisher than Kelman or someone who’s better physically than Dykes which is worth a lot of money. When you take the best part of them they’re amazing it’s just they both lack massively outside that trait 
     
    He is not one of the best finishers in the League, get real.So Dykes has got a good physique. So has Anthony Joshua but I wouldn’t want him playing for us.

    1Swansea City
    Žan Vipotnik
    App.
    44
    Goals
    23
    2Hull City
    Oliver McBurnie
    4018
    3Coventry City
    Haji Wright
    4017
    4=Wrexham
    Josh Windass
    4116
    4=Ipswich Town
    Jack Clarke
    4616
    6Hull City
    Joe Gelhardt
    4215
    7Middlesbrough
    Morgan Whittaker
    4314
    8=Coventry City
    Brandon Thomas-Asante
    3213
    8=Coventry City
    Ellis Simms
    4313
    8=Middlesbrough
    Tommy Conway
    4813
    11=Sheffield United
    Patrick Bamford
    2812
    11=Derby County
    Carlton Morris
    3112
    11=Ipswich Town
    Jaden Philogene-Bidace
    3512
    14=Southampton
    Adam Armstrong
    2911
    14=Leicester City
    Jordan James
    3411
    14=Millwall
    Femi Azeez
    3711
    14=Portsmouth
    Adrian Segecic
    3811
    14=Wrexham
    Kieffer Moore
    3911
    14=Ipswich Town
    George Hirst
    4211
    14=Oxford United
    Will Lankshear
    4411
    14=Southampton
    Finn Azaz
    4511
    14=Bristol City
    Scott Twine
    4511
    23=Norwich City
    Jovon Makama
    2810
    23=Queens Park Rangers
    Rumarn Burrell
    3010
    23=Birmingham City
    Marvin Ducksch
    3310
    23=Derby County
    Patrick Agyemang
    3710
    23=Preston North End
    Lewis Dobbin
    3910
    23=Coventry City
    Victor Torp
    3910
    23=Coventry City
    Ephron Mason-Clark
    4210
    23=Queens Park Rangers
    Richard Kone
    Kelman didn’t always start and played for a team who scored the 3rd lowest number of goals. We’ve seen enough to know he’s a good finisher at this level, there are plenty of other things that need improving before his finishing.

    What he does need is more and better service, and to improve other areas of his game - hold up play, keeping possession, his movement, using his physical strength that he occasionally showed more often etc.

    Do that and he’ll keep his place and if we create enough he’ll score goals.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 20,221
    fenaddick said:
    Some fans make me laugh, there’s a good chance Dykes will go elsewhere because another club offers more money (probs Preston, knowing their form) but our fans say we can do better. Well, if we couldn’t afford Dykes how is that going to happen? 
    Because we don't know what wages we're offering and for what role. We will have a wage structure and he isn't really worth breaking it for. It isn't really about not being able to afford him as much as not being willing to pay what he thinks he's worth
    Do you really think we've lowballed him that much, because he'd only be coming in as an impact sub? We'd already have had to offer less because there's no way we could match his Birmingham wages. It feels like a lot of clutching at straws and hoping we'll somehow land a proven goalscorer for the sort of transfer fee and wages we've got available.
    I think if we were planning to use him off the bench, for example, we'd offer him a wage appropriate to that. Remember when Dobbo left and all the talk was he was being paid less than Tennai Watson? That's the scenario you want to avoid and overpaying your squad players can cause serious disharmony.

    Whether we can get better I don't know but I do broadly trust NJ to know when not to overspend on wages
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,682
    SteveACS said:
    I've said before, and I'll say it again...

    Dykes played in the current Wirld Cup...

    As a metric, which better striker in this Wirld Cup do yo think Charlton could afford? Transfer fee and and wages.

    Temper your expectations...
    Him playing in a World Cup is irrelevant. 

    He got into that squad (a shit squad at that) because Steve Clarke didn’t like Oli McBurnie the much better striker. 

    Any other manager takes McBurnie and not dykes. 

    He was not in that squad on merit 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,719
    SteveACS said:
    I've said before, and I'll say it again...

    Dykes played in the current Wirld Cup...

    As a metric, which better striker in this Wirld Cup do yo think Charlton could afford? Transfer fee and and wages.

    Temper your expectations...
    Not a high bar to clear, bet some of the Iranian, Cape Verdean or Haitian lads are better than him and will be as "cheap"

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  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,682
    sam3110 said:
    Crispywood said:t
    J BLOCK said:
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Yeah we need better than Dykes if we go 1 up top, needs to be a striker at least on a par with Kelman and Godden's scoring prowess
    There’s no point having 3 strikers who are exactly the same, at least dykes gives u an option to go direct in the last 5-10mins when ur applying pressure, Kelman and Godden come nowhere close to him physically 
    But that's my point, we need a player that is similar in stature to Miles and Dykes, but they need to have better scoring prowess than Dykes did to make it worthwhile, IMO. 

    Problem is strikers like that are like hens teeth, but if we're serious about moving forwards and evolving under Jones this season, I don't think Dykes is the answer 
    If you get a forward with Dykes physicality and Kelman/Godden finishing your basically asking for a striker that’s going to cost you 15-20M. 
    This is one of the craziest posts on here. Dykes and Kelman combination would be worth 20 million 😂😂
    Kelman is arguably one of the best finishers in this league, I know expected goals is like marmite to some people but statistically he was the 3rd best striker this season in terms of finishing. 

    Dykes has 40 goals in 197 championship games which is not great for a striker yet somehow convinced teams he’s been good enough to spend 5 seasons in the championship. 

    You will struggle to get a better finisher than Kelman or someone who’s better physically than Dykes which is worth a lot of money. When you take the best part of them they’re amazing it’s just they both lack massively outside that trait 
     
    He is not one of the best finishers in the League, get real.So Dykes has got a good physique. So has Anthony Joshua but I wouldn’t want him playing for us.

    1Swansea City
    Žan Vipotnik
    App.
    44
    Goals
    23
    2Hull City
    Oliver McBurnie
    4018
    3Coventry City
    Haji Wright
    4017
    4=Wrexham
    Josh Windass
    4116
    4=Ipswich Town
    Jack Clarke
    4616
    6Hull City
    Joe Gelhardt
    4215
    7Middlesbrough
    Morgan Whittaker
    4314
    8=Coventry City
    Brandon Thomas-Asante
    3213
    8=Coventry City
    Ellis Simms
    4313
    8=Middlesbrough
    Tommy Conway
    4813
    11=Sheffield United
    Patrick Bamford
    2812
    11=Derby County
    Carlton Morris
    3112
    11=Ipswich Town
    Jaden Philogene-Bidace
    3512
    14=Southampton
    Adam Armstrong
    2911
    14=Leicester City
    Jordan James
    3411
    14=Millwall
    Femi Azeez
    3711
    14=Portsmouth
    Adrian Segecic
    3811
    14=Wrexham
    Kieffer Moore
    3911
    14=Ipswich Town
    George Hirst
    4211
    14=Oxford United
    Will Lankshear
    4411
    14=Southampton
    Finn Azaz
    4511
    14=Bristol City
    Scott Twine
    4511
    23=Norwich City
    Jovon Makama
    2810
    23=Queens Park Rangers
    Rumarn Burrell
    3010
    23=Birmingham City
    Marvin Ducksch
    3310
    23=Derby County
    Patrick Agyemang
    3710
    23=Preston North End
    Lewis Dobbin
    3910
    23=Coventry City
    Victor Torp
    3910
    23=Coventry City
    Ephron Mason-Clark
    4210
    23=Queens Park Rangers
    Richard Kone
    Proves absolutely nothing.

    Kelman's Shots on Target % was 2nd highest in the league, his conversion rate was in the top 5%, his issue is getting enough chances to score goals, he only had 28 shots in total last season, a striker of his calibre should be given at least double, maybe even triple that.

    Vipotnik had 88 shots last season, for instance, Haji Wright had 98 and McBurnie 70.

    Looking at "Top Scorer" in a nutshell proves almost nothing, other than the team they play for are clearly more attacking than we are
    Having so little shots over the season completely invalidates this as a course of argument though. That is no way near enough sample size to draw any meaningful conclusions. 


  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 18,573
    edited July 15
    We're not above Lyndon Dykes just yet. He's a very average Championship footballer and the majority of our players are below average at this level. He's the kind of player we need to compete. 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 7,693
    Kelman averaged 0.41 goals per 90 which isn't that bad at all. Hard to score when you're not playing.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 23,719
    sam3110 said:
    Crispywood said:t
    J BLOCK said:
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Yeah we need better than Dykes if we go 1 up top, needs to be a striker at least on a par with Kelman and Godden's scoring prowess
    There’s no point having 3 strikers who are exactly the same, at least dykes gives u an option to go direct in the last 5-10mins when ur applying pressure, Kelman and Godden come nowhere close to him physically 
    But that's my point, we need a player that is similar in stature to Miles and Dykes, but they need to have better scoring prowess than Dykes did to make it worthwhile, IMO. 

    Problem is strikers like that are like hens teeth, but if we're serious about moving forwards and evolving under Jones this season, I don't think Dykes is the answer 
    If you get a forward with Dykes physicality and Kelman/Godden finishing your basically asking for a striker that’s going to cost you 15-20M. 
    This is one of the craziest posts on here. Dykes and Kelman combination would be worth 20 million 😂😂
    Kelman is arguably one of the best finishers in this league, I know expected goals is like marmite to some people but statistically he was the 3rd best striker this season in terms of finishing. 

    Dykes has 40 goals in 197 championship games which is not great for a striker yet somehow convinced teams he’s been good enough to spend 5 seasons in the championship. 

    You will struggle to get a better finisher than Kelman or someone who’s better physically than Dykes which is worth a lot of money. When you take the best part of them they’re amazing it’s just they both lack massively outside that trait 
     
    He is not one of the best finishers in the League, get real.So Dykes has got a good physique. So has Anthony Joshua but I wouldn’t want him playing for us.

    1Swansea City
    Žan Vipotnik
    App.
    44
    Goals
    23
    2Hull City
    Oliver McBurnie
    4018
    3Coventry City
    Haji Wright
    4017
    4=Wrexham
    Josh Windass
    4116
    4=Ipswich Town
    Jack Clarke
    4616
    6Hull City
    Joe Gelhardt
    4215
    7Middlesbrough
    Morgan Whittaker
    4314
    8=Coventry City
    Brandon Thomas-Asante
    3213
    8=Coventry City
    Ellis Simms
    4313
    8=Middlesbrough
    Tommy Conway
    4813
    11=Sheffield United
    Patrick Bamford
    2812
    11=Derby County
    Carlton Morris
    3112
    11=Ipswich Town
    Jaden Philogene-Bidace
    3512
    14=Southampton
    Adam Armstrong
    2911
    14=Leicester City
    Jordan James
    3411
    14=Millwall
    Femi Azeez
    3711
    14=Portsmouth
    Adrian Segecic
    3811
    14=Wrexham
    Kieffer Moore
    3911
    14=Ipswich Town
    George Hirst
    4211
    14=Oxford United
    Will Lankshear
    4411
    14=Southampton
    Finn Azaz
    4511
    14=Bristol City
    Scott Twine
    4511
    23=Norwich City
    Jovon Makama
    2810
    23=Queens Park Rangers
    Rumarn Burrell
    3010
    23=Birmingham City
    Marvin Ducksch
    3310
    23=Derby County
    Patrick Agyemang
    3710
    23=Preston North End
    Lewis Dobbin
    3910
    23=Coventry City
    Victor Torp
    3910
    23=Coventry City
    Ephron Mason-Clark
    4210
    23=Queens Park Rangers
    Richard Kone
    Proves absolutely nothing.

    Kelman's Shots on Target % was 2nd highest in the league, his conversion rate was in the top 5%, his issue is getting enough chances to score goals, he only had 28 shots in total last season, a striker of his calibre should be given at least double, maybe even triple that.

    Vipotnik had 88 shots last season, for instance, Haji Wright had 98 and McBurnie 70.

    Looking at "Top Scorer" in a nutshell proves almost nothing, other than the team they play for are clearly more attacking than we are
    Having so little shots over the season completely invalidates this as a course of argument though. That is no way near enough sample size to draw any meaningful conclusions. 


    So you wouldn't want to sign Oli Rathbone, Mo Toure, Kyle Larin or Ross Stewart? All players with similar shot amounts and goals
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 1,213
    edited July 15
    Thank god none of these 'expert' opinions matter, and that its NJ who makes the decisions.
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,682
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Crispywood said:t
    J BLOCK said:
    sam3110 said:
    sam3110 said:
    Yeah we need better than Dykes if we go 1 up top, needs to be a striker at least on a par with Kelman and Godden's scoring prowess
    There’s no point having 3 strikers who are exactly the same, at least dykes gives u an option to go direct in the last 5-10mins when ur applying pressure, Kelman and Godden come nowhere close to him physically 
    But that's my point, we need a player that is similar in stature to Miles and Dykes, but they need to have better scoring prowess than Dykes did to make it worthwhile, IMO. 

    Problem is strikers like that are like hens teeth, but if we're serious about moving forwards and evolving under Jones this season, I don't think Dykes is the answer 
    If you get a forward with Dykes physicality and Kelman/Godden finishing your basically asking for a striker that’s going to cost you 15-20M. 
    This is one of the craziest posts on here. Dykes and Kelman combination would be worth 20 million 😂😂
    Kelman is arguably one of the best finishers in this league, I know expected goals is like marmite to some people but statistically he was the 3rd best striker this season in terms of finishing. 

    Dykes has 40 goals in 197 championship games which is not great for a striker yet somehow convinced teams he’s been good enough to spend 5 seasons in the championship. 

    You will struggle to get a better finisher than Kelman or someone who’s better physically than Dykes which is worth a lot of money. When you take the best part of them they’re amazing it’s just they both lack massively outside that trait 
     
    He is not one of the best finishers in the League, get real.So Dykes has got a good physique. So has Anthony Joshua but I wouldn’t want him playing for us.

    1Swansea City
    Žan Vipotnik
    App.
    44
    Goals
    23
    2Hull City
    Oliver McBurnie
    4018
    3Coventry City
    Haji Wright
    4017
    4=Wrexham
    Josh Windass
    4116
    4=Ipswich Town
    Jack Clarke
    4616
    6Hull City
    Joe Gelhardt
    4215
    7Middlesbrough
    Morgan Whittaker
    4314
    8=Coventry City
    Brandon Thomas-Asante
    3213
    8=Coventry City
    Ellis Simms
    4313
    8=Middlesbrough
    Tommy Conway
    4813
    11=Sheffield United
    Patrick Bamford
    2812
    11=Derby County
    Carlton Morris
    3112
    11=Ipswich Town
    Jaden Philogene-Bidace
    3512
    14=Southampton
    Adam Armstrong
    2911
    14=Leicester City
    Jordan James
    3411
    14=Millwall
    Femi Azeez
    3711
    14=Portsmouth
    Adrian Segecic
    3811
    14=Wrexham
    Kieffer Moore
    3911
    14=Ipswich Town
    George Hirst
    4211
    14=Oxford United
    Will Lankshear
    4411
    14=Southampton
    Finn Azaz
    4511
    14=Bristol City
    Scott Twine
    4511
    23=Norwich City
    Jovon Makama
    2810
    23=Queens Park Rangers
    Rumarn Burrell
    3010
    23=Birmingham City
    Marvin Ducksch
    3310
    23=Derby County
    Patrick Agyemang
    3710
    23=Preston North End
    Lewis Dobbin
    3910
    23=Coventry City
    Victor Torp
    3910
    23=Coventry City
    Ephron Mason-Clark
    4210
    23=Queens Park Rangers
    Richard Kone
    Proves absolutely nothing.

    Kelman's Shots on Target % was 2nd highest in the league, his conversion rate was in the top 5%, his issue is getting enough chances to score goals, he only had 28 shots in total last season, a striker of his calibre should be given at least double, maybe even triple that.

    Vipotnik had 88 shots last season, for instance, Haji Wright had 98 and McBurnie 70.

    Looking at "Top Scorer" in a nutshell proves almost nothing, other than the team they play for are clearly more attacking than we are
    Having so little shots over the season completely invalidates this as a course of argument though. That is no way near enough sample size to draw any meaningful conclusions. 


    So you wouldn't want to sign Oli Rathbone, Mo Toure, Kyle Larin or Ross Stewart? All players with similar shot amounts and goals
    What’s that got to do with anything? 

    I’m saying that you shot percentage means nothing when you’ve only taken 28 shots. It’s a meaningless sample 
  • Kinsella87
    Kinsella87 Posts: 578
    It’s a bit of nostalgia not knowing signings until they appear with the club scarf. 

    we’ve got 2 decent signings (in theory) already and really until the season starts I don’t have it in me to be worried, just let NJ and the rest crack on and see what happens. 
  • ValleyLocal
    ValleyLocal Posts: 38
    It’s a bit of nostalgia not knowing signings until they appear with the club scarf. 

    we’ve got 2 decent signings (in theory) already and really until the season starts I don’t have it in me to be worried, just let NJ and the rest crack on and see what happens. 
    Surely you mean in hope. 
  • YannTheMann
    YannTheMann Posts: 1,445
    And just like clockwork our perceived lack of activity becomes a snipping match between the glass half full & empty brigades in this thread. Personally am on the fence, would have liked to have seen more incomings by now but not panic stations for a few weeks for me