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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Bristol City: Good Friday 3rd April 2026: KO 15:00

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  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,103
    NabySarr said:
    I’m not sure there’s too many of these I would want starting next year. Significant improvement is going to be required in all areas of the pitch 
    Be fine with Ramsay, Jones, Bell, Clarke, Carey and Dykes all starting the first game of next season 

    We’re finishing probably around 18th with this squad. Significant improvement is probably needed to get us in the play offs, but it’s really not that much needed to turn us into a mid-table side which would be fine next season to continue our progress 
    It’ll be a lot harder than you think, easiest championship in a long time, two teams with points deductions one of which was more or less a death sentence. Clubs underperforming when in a normal season they would be higher up. We needs a massive overhaul to achieve a comfortable mid table 
    Such a load of sowhataboutery
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,635
    Another frustrating and disappointing game. We looked completely asleep for the first fifteen, so open. Got a bit better from there but if Jones has an off day it's a real problem for us.

    As so often the case the midfield looked so overrun both in and out of possession. Acres of space for BC to run through and then when our defence have the ball there is no one within fifty yards ahead of them - not surprising they then pass it sideways before hoofing it.

    Absolute shocker from Mannion, don't see how anyone can try to defend that. Kam has had his share too but if you give Mannion a pass today you're just biased. 

    Similarly, others have said it but the hammering TC gets compared to other misses is just the clearest example of the unfair bullsh*t that is directed at him. Matt Godden is a outright striker who specialises in poaching and he's missed from a yard out. He's one of my favourite players but anyone talking about TC and not mentioning that is a moron.

    Thought we looked much better in the 4-2-3-1, obviously BC were sitting back and defending then but even so I'd like to see us try that from the off.

    Ibby looked class and Fevs and TC were also dangerous on the wings 
    Godden didn't miss from a yard out, the keeper saved a goal bound shot ffs  !!!

    TC's effort was high, wide & not very handsome.

    I'm all for not bashing TC but at least tell it how it was  
    It was a good save no question, but Godden hit it basically straight at him. If he puts it almost anywhere else it's a goal. And if you ask him there is no chance he is saying he shouldn't be doing better.

    I'm not saying TC's wasn't a bad miss, just saying to only call out his miss in that game is crazy. If he'd missed Godden's people would not be talking about the keeper making a good save
    Wasn’t there, haven’t seen either effort but from what I’ve read Godden made the keeper make a save, TC didn’t.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 9,586
    Middle of the park comes up every week it seems as the main area to strengthen. Hopefully the budget is going be available to really reshape it. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 35,580
    edited April 3
    th0rryy said:
    I've got a horrible feeling we're gonna lose to Wednesday 
    Feel like at least one more team is going to feel that shame this season and, with how we play right now, we're as likely as anyone.
    Their last home game in this division, 
    Someone else said this today

    Not true. Sheff Wed play their last home game on the last day of the season against WBA.
      
  • Mortimerwasgod
    Mortimerwasgod Posts: 598
    Pwr but I think Chambers is a lightweight and bottles anything in the air.  We cannot play Coventry and docherty at home, simply put they are one paced and crab like. We need to put out a team that can attack, the abuse campbell got was disgusting and embarrassing, he was the only decent attacking outlet. Next week go 442 v Preston, play fuller and fevrier with campbell and be shocked....
  • CatAddick
    CatAddick Posts: 2,410
    MrBurns said:
    After 40 games last time we were in the championship. We are 2 points better off 
    Can't see how this is a meaningful comparison... only Charlton now with Charlton then. Surely the comparison should be the "gap" between 17th and 22nd? Then five points, with six games to play... Now eight points with six games to play. Still looks like poo-poo time....
    And then five teams bettered our results to overtake us, this time it only needs four.  We are not out of the woods
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,410
    Rothko said:
    NabySarr said:
    I’m not sure there’s too many of these I would want starting next year. Significant improvement is going to be required in all areas of the pitch 
    Be fine with Ramsay, Jones, Bell, Clarke, Carey and Dykes all starting the first game of next season 

    We’re finishing probably around 18th with this squad. Significant improvement is probably needed to get us in the play offs, but it’s really not that much needed to turn us into a mid-table side which would be fine next season to continue our progress 
    It’ll be a lot harder than you think, easiest championship in a long time, two teams with points deductions one of which was more or less a death sentence. Clubs underperforming when in a normal season they would be higher up. We needs a massive overhaul to achieve a comfortable mid table 
    Such a load of sowhataboutery
    Yet it’s still true, we’ve been lucky this year because of these reasons. We will need to improve
  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,799
    A performence we are all to familiar with and a performence that a lot of the firestick uses have accepeted. Do nothing for 90 mins and win by the odd goal or do nothing for 90 mins and lose by the odd goal, its incredibly boring now. What a horrendous advert we are for Championship football. Said before not expecting nor want us to play like Barcelona, A little spell when were on top or creating a few chances or even passing the ball quickly going forward would be nice once in a while. 

    I am so sure if the manager had a bit more belief in his team we would be comfortably mid table looking up rather then down. 
  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,996
    So frustrating to see it all play out predictably.

    We spent 10 mill this closed session - we need to spend 20 mill in the off season if we are to build a squad that can actually be competitive in this league and avoid another relegation battle.

    We can't take on teams and win - we can only soak up pressure, nick a goal and dig in. 

    That will only lead to a relegation fight every year. 




  • _uptheaddicks
    _uptheaddicks Posts: 304
    Very likely we move to 19th with a 5 point gap come Monday.

    You get the feeling that we can't just throw these points away with no consequences. 

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  • Kingfish
    Kingfish Posts: 6
    Shocked by Lloyd Jones performance. Usually MoM. Has he been tapped up and knows where he's playing next year? Hope we keep Dykes. Maybe expecting miracles from Godden. Too late. Move on with young forwards. Why does the forum expect a win against PNE? Surely better than us but I hope you're right. We're a hard watch but COYR!
  • Another frustrating and disappointing game. We looked completely asleep for the first fifteen, so open. Got a bit better from there but if Jones has an off day it's a real problem for us.

    As so often the case the midfield looked so overrun both in and out of possession. Acres of space for BC to run through and then when our defence have the ball there is no one within fifty yards ahead of them - not surprising they then pass it sideways before hoofing it.

    Absolute shocker from Mannion, don't see how anyone can try to defend that. Kam has had his share too but if you give Mannion a pass today you're just biased. 

    Similarly, others have said it but the hammering TC gets compared to other misses is just the clearest example of the unfair bullsh*t that is directed at him. Matt Godden is a outright striker who specialises in poaching and he's missed from a yard out. He's one of my favourite players but anyone talking about TC and not mentioning that is a moron.

    Thought we looked much better in the 4-2-3-1, obviously BC were sitting back and defending then but even so I'd like to see us try that from the off.

    Ibby looked class and Fevs and TC were also dangerous on the wings 
    Godden didn't miss from a yard out, the keeper saved a goal bound shot ffs  !!!

    TC's effort was high, wide & not very handsome.

    I'm all for not bashing TC but at least tell it how it was  
    It was a good save no question, but Godden hit it basically straight at him. If he puts it almost anywhere else it's a goal. And if you ask him there is no chance he is saying he shouldn't be doing better.

    I'm not saying TC's wasn't a bad miss, just saying to only call out his miss in that game is crazy. If he'd missed Godden's people would not be talking about the keeper making a good save
    Wasn’t there, haven’t seen either effort but from what I’ve read Godden made the keeper make a save, TC didn’t.
    That is true, but also true that it would be almost impossible for Godden to shoot off target from where he was
  • Need more energy in the side - desperately slow and flat today particularly at the start of each half. There was little or no press today. 


  • PeanutsMolloy
    PeanutsMolloy Posts: 7,111
    edited April 3
    We have a Championship quality defence and a League One offence.
    If we stay up, we have to have a major upgrade to our creativity and finishing or we will go down next time.
    Simples.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,633
    Rothko said:
    LenGlover said:
    In my opinion we need a minimum of 6 points to guarantee safety 
    Yeah cause all the teams below will
    win 5 of their remaining 6 games if that’s the case. Christ on a bike.

    we seriously lack a proper number 8 who can pass through the lines, the biggest
    miss in the summer is looking like Galbraith
    Imagine how much better we would be with a Mark Kinsella type player in midfield, a player we signed from 4th tier Colchester. Someone who can do the hard work and give 100% every game, but also has quality on the ball.

    I find it hard to believe that such a player was out of our budget last summer. It would have been my top priority, as even last season in L1 Coventry and Docherty weren't outstanding. Decent enough to get us promoted, but not of the same level as the midfielders Bowyer had in 2018/19 and then in the first half of 2019/20.
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,436
    Feel we could do better away from home than at The Valley starting at Watford Monday, with all the added expectancy at home currently, I feel seems to be our achilles heel at the moment, 
    We have had some great away wins this season, Ipswich, Leicester, Middlesborough and a few good draws on the road as well...
    may be then we should play behind closed doors at home. Or in front of away fans only.
  • Moto
    Moto Posts: 94
     Home supporters getting  on the back of one of our own , pretty pathetic and embarrassing.  Many other players out there who made poor mistakes and ones that should have scored, I didn't hear negative songs about them though?
      
       
  • Last 5 homes - W1 D0 L4
    Last 5 aways - W2 D3 L0
  • DartfordAddick
    DartfordAddick Posts: 1,103
    When we're having a bad day, it always seems to be really far off it. 

    Have to deal with the here and now, but we had so much more energy and bite at the start of the season which seems to have disappeared. 

    Agree we need to be better upfront, but midfield is the major area that needs addressing for me. Kelman and Dykes combined well for the goal and showed they can do it if we serve them better. 

    Would like to see more of Fullah, one the few who was enjoyable to watch. Took a little while for him to get in the game but he's added some bite and drive that was sorely needed. Also gives TC a bit more freedom and gave us more threat overall. 

    Think we'll pick up at least one more win and some draws to be safe, just wish we'd get there a bit sooner. 

  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 6,002
    1968CAFC said:
    I respect all my fellow Charlton Fans.
    but it’s so bloody obvious we need to invest in
    proper Strikers  who can score goals and shoot on target 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩👍👍👍👍
    We need a midfield and wing backs that give any kind of service .  Mobility a bonus 

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  • mascot88 said:
    So frustrating to see it all play out predictably.

    We spent 10 mill this closed session - we need to spend 20 mill in the off season if we are to build a squad that can actually be competitive in this league and avoid another relegation battle.

    We can't take on teams and win - we can only soak up pressure, nick a goal and dig in. 

    That will only lead to a relegation fight every year. 




    Whatever the budget the focus must be on quality over quantity.
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 25,899
    msomerton said:
    Feel we could do better away from home than at The Valley starting at Watford Monday, with all the added expectancy at home currently, I feel seems to be our achilles heel at the moment, 
    We have had some great away wins this season, Ipswich, Leicester, Middlesborough and a few good draws on the road as well...
    may be then we should play behind closed doors at home. Or in front of away fans only.
    I give up!!…🤦
  • So far, it has not been a bad first year in the championship. Weve lost by mostly small margins and won by the same.  We need to not slip up on the Sheffield Wednesday banana skin and pick up probably 1 more point from remaining games.  Then we need to bring in a few real quality options to strengthen midfield and attack
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,458
    edited April 4
    We all agree that we need a squad overhaul. But do we have the necessary behind the scenes to achieve it, i have been critical of the owners for some time as i dont believe that they have to desire to acheive this.

    They seem more intent poncing up the ground than improving the quality on the field. Or/also it may be down to the football management side who dont have the know how to build a decent championship squad.

    If we stay up this year, and they dont do what's needed, no way will we survive next year. Going to the valley these days is depressing.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 37,063
    Very likely we move to 19th with a 5 point gap come Monday.

    You get the feeling that we can't just throw these points away with no consequences. 
    However we do tend to get better results when people think we will (or expect us to) lose. 
  • RedRobin
    RedRobin Posts: 1,394
    Monday is a must win just to maintain the gap with all the teams below playing each other pretty much! I think we will be fine with Oxford and Pompey being worse than us. 

    Didn’t hear the Campbell abuse and not warranted but that miss was a disgrace. Similar misses sent us down in 2019/2020 season and I hope it doesn’t cost us. 
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,458
    CatAddick said:
    MrBurns said:
    After 40 games last time we were in the championship. We are 2 points better off 
    Can't see how this is a meaningful comparison... only Charlton now with Charlton then. Surely the comparison should be the "gap" between 17th and 22nd? Then five points, with six games to play... Now eight points with six games to play. Still looks like poo-poo time....
    And then five teams bettered our results to overtake us, this time it only needs four.  We are not out of the woods
    It amazes me how some people think were out of the wood. Some saving grace is some of those teams have to play each other. All draws i hope 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,352
    Rothko said:
    NabySarr said:
    I’m not sure there’s too many of these I would want starting next year. Significant improvement is going to be required in all areas of the pitch 
    Be fine with Ramsay, Jones, Bell, Clarke, Carey and Dykes all starting the first game of next season 

    We’re finishing probably around 18th with this squad. Significant improvement is probably needed to get us in the play offs, but it’s really not that much needed to turn us into a mid-table side which would be fine next season to continue our progress 
    It’ll be a lot harder than you think, easiest championship in a long time, two teams with points deductions one of which was more or less a death sentence. Clubs underperforming when in a normal season they would be higher up. We needs a massive overhaul to achieve a comfortable mid table 
    Such a load of sowhataboutery
    I make him right tbh. Going to be a much tougher league next season with whatever 3 come down from the PL and no Wednesday to take up a place in the bottom 3. 
  • CatAddick said:
    MrBurns said:
    After 40 games last time we were in the championship. We are 2 points better off 
    Can't see how this is a meaningful comparison... only Charlton now with Charlton then. Surely the comparison should be the "gap" between 17th and 22nd? Then five points, with six games to play... Now eight points with six games to play. Still looks like poo-poo time....
    And then five teams bettered our results to overtake us, this time it only needs four.  We are not out of the woods
    It amazes me how some people think were out of the wood. Some saving grace is some of those teams have to play each other. All draws i hope 

    I have no idea why people have been talking as if we were home and hosed. We feel easily still in the mix for relegation. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,103
    Croydon said:
    Rothko said:
    NabySarr said:
    I’m not sure there’s too many of these I would want starting next year. Significant improvement is going to be required in all areas of the pitch 
    Be fine with Ramsay, Jones, Bell, Clarke, Carey and Dykes all starting the first game of next season 

    We’re finishing probably around 18th with this squad. Significant improvement is probably needed to get us in the play offs, but it’s really not that much needed to turn us into a mid-table side which would be fine next season to continue our progress 
    It’ll be a lot harder than you think, easiest championship in a long time, two teams with points deductions one of which was more or less a death sentence. Clubs underperforming when in a normal season they would be higher up. We needs a massive overhaul to achieve a comfortable mid table 
    Such a load of sowhataboutery
    I make him right tbh. Going to be a much tougher league next season with whatever 3 come down from the PL and no Wednesday to take up a place in the bottom 3. 
    The three coming down are always strong, Leicester are an outlier, Birmingham and Wrexham are miles better than the top two from League 1, and the Wednesday stuff is obvious from space. 

    Just find it a lazy stick, that will come out again with Lincoln replacing Wednesday