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POST-MATCH THREAD: Charlton Athletic v Bristol City: Good Friday 3rd April 2026: KO 15:00

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,889
    I think if we beat Wednesday we'll squeak survival

    I think if we don't beat Wednesday we're going down

    If we go down from the position we were in, I am going to offer out literally everyone who still wants Jones manager in Makros car park
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,115
    Shouldn’t the winning goal yest be given as Mannion og?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 27,371
    wmcf123 said:
    Sword65pf said:
    Slightly worrying NJ’s post match interviews are becoming very similar when at home.
    Front footed , blah blah, unlucky , blah. 
    It’s funny as Nathan Jones’ team is anything but front footed. 
  • _uptheaddicks
    _uptheaddicks Posts: 285
    Extended highlights are up on YouTube.

    There were three instances of really poor finishing from around the six-yard box, as well as the usual powder-puff attempts around the penalty box.

    Pressing for goals in desperation brings its own pressure and panic. NJ, try to strike a better balance before our almighty evolution period, please.
  • AberystwythAddick
    AberystwythAddick Posts: 1,377
    Rothko said:
    Croydon said:
    Rothko said:
    NabySarr said:
    I’m not sure there’s too many of these I would want starting next year. Significant improvement is going to be required in all areas of the pitch 
    Be fine with Ramsay, Jones, Bell, Clarke, Carey and Dykes all starting the first game of next season 

    We’re finishing probably around 18th with this squad. Significant improvement is probably needed to get us in the play offs, but it’s really not that much needed to turn us into a mid-table side which would be fine next season to continue our progress 
    It’ll be a lot harder than you think, easiest championship in a long time, two teams with points deductions one of which was more or less a death sentence. Clubs underperforming when in a normal season they would be higher up. We needs a massive overhaul to achieve a comfortable mid table 
    Such a load of sowhataboutery
    I make him right tbh. Going to be a much tougher league next season with whatever 3 come down from the PL and no Wednesday to take up a place in the bottom 3. 
    The three coming down are always strong, Leicester are an outlier, Birmingham and Wrexham are miles better than the top two from League 1, and the Wednesday stuff is obvious from space. 

    Just find it a lazy stick, that will come out again with Lincoln replacing Wednesday 

    I suppose they are the same if you ignore Wednesdays squad having been decimated, them being under a transfer embargo and have a 20 odd points deduction. Whilst Lincoln are one of the best performing teams in the EFL coming up with confidence and a good manager. We can come back to this next year to see if Lincoln have more points then Wednesday 
  • king addick
    king addick Posts: 3,970
    Need at least a draw against Watford now. 

    What makes it worse is that Bristol are pretty shite. We aren't much better it seems but they had the one thing we don't..a game changer in Twine. I genuinely believe Fullah can step up these last few games because the lad plays without fear and will just give everything.

    Whilst we can all appreciate players have off days, that needs to be rectified asap or we will be bang in trouble. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,219
    Rothko said:
    Croydon said:
    Rothko said:
    NabySarr said:
    I’m not sure there’s too many of these I would want starting next year. Significant improvement is going to be required in all areas of the pitch 
    Be fine with Ramsay, Jones, Bell, Clarke, Carey and Dykes all starting the first game of next season 

    We’re finishing probably around 18th with this squad. Significant improvement is probably needed to get us in the play offs, but it’s really not that much needed to turn us into a mid-table side which would be fine next season to continue our progress 
    It’ll be a lot harder than you think, easiest championship in a long time, two teams with points deductions one of which was more or less a death sentence. Clubs underperforming when in a normal season they would be higher up. We needs a massive overhaul to achieve a comfortable mid table 
    Such a load of sowhataboutery
    I make him right tbh. Going to be a much tougher league next season with whatever 3 come down from the PL and no Wednesday to take up a place in the bottom 3. 
    The three coming down are always strong, Leicester are an outlier, Birmingham and Wrexham are miles better than the top two from League 1, and the Wednesday stuff is obvious from space. 

    Just find it a lazy stick, that will come out again with Lincoln replacing Wednesday 

    I suppose they are the same if you ignore Wednesdays squad having been decimated, them being under a transfer embargo and have a 20 odd points deduction. Whilst Lincoln are one of the best performing teams in the EFL coming up with confidence and a good manager. We can come back to this next year to see if Lincoln have more points then Wednesday 
    Why are Lincoln going to have a points deduction? - I always find the need to refer back to posts, and prove your right in a years time quite odd
  • Charlton1905
    Charlton1905 Posts: 11

  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 19,091
    Rothko said:
    Croydon said:
    Rothko said:
    NabySarr said:
    I’m not sure there’s too many of these I would want starting next year. Significant improvement is going to be required in all areas of the pitch 
    Be fine with Ramsay, Jones, Bell, Clarke, Carey and Dykes all starting the first game of next season 

    We’re finishing probably around 18th with this squad. Significant improvement is probably needed to get us in the play offs, but it’s really not that much needed to turn us into a mid-table side which would be fine next season to continue our progress 
    It’ll be a lot harder than you think, easiest championship in a long time, two teams with points deductions one of which was more or less a death sentence. Clubs underperforming when in a normal season they would be higher up. We needs a massive overhaul to achieve a comfortable mid table 
    Such a load of sowhataboutery
    I make him right tbh. Going to be a much tougher league next season with whatever 3 come down from the PL and no Wednesday to take up a place in the bottom 3. 
    The three coming down are always strong, Leicester are an outlier, Birmingham and Wrexham are miles better than the top two from League 1, and the Wednesday stuff is obvious from space. 

    Just find it a lazy stick, that will come out again with Lincoln replacing Wednesday 

    I suppose they are the same if you ignore Wednesdays squad having been decimated, them being under a transfer embargo and have a 20 odd points deduction. Whilst Lincoln are one of the best performing teams in the EFL coming up with confidence and a good manager. We can come back to this next year to see if Lincoln have more points then Wednesday 
    Why are Lincoln going to have a points deduction? - I always find the need to refer back to posts, and prove your right in a years time quite odd
    Not a points deduction, but a team who won’t be equipped for the league and will struggle. Poorly phrased be me, but they will be whataboutery crowds choice next year 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,219
    edited April 4
    Rothko said:
    Rothko said:
    Croydon said:
    Rothko said:
    NabySarr said:
    I’m not sure there’s too many of these I would want starting next year. Significant improvement is going to be required in all areas of the pitch 
    Be fine with Ramsay, Jones, Bell, Clarke, Carey and Dykes all starting the first game of next season 

    We’re finishing probably around 18th with this squad. Significant improvement is probably needed to get us in the play offs, but it’s really not that much needed to turn us into a mid-table side which would be fine next season to continue our progress 
    It’ll be a lot harder than you think, easiest championship in a long time, two teams with points deductions one of which was more or less a death sentence. Clubs underperforming when in a normal season they would be higher up. We needs a massive overhaul to achieve a comfortable mid table 
    Such a load of sowhataboutery
    I make him right tbh. Going to be a much tougher league next season with whatever 3 come down from the PL and no Wednesday to take up a place in the bottom 3. 
    The three coming down are always strong, Leicester are an outlier, Birmingham and Wrexham are miles better than the top two from League 1, and the Wednesday stuff is obvious from space. 

    Just find it a lazy stick, that will come out again with Lincoln replacing Wednesday 

    I suppose they are the same if you ignore Wednesdays squad having been decimated, them being under a transfer embargo and have a 20 odd points deduction. Whilst Lincoln are one of the best performing teams in the EFL coming up with confidence and a good manager. We can come back to this next year to see if Lincoln have more points then Wednesday 
    Why are Lincoln going to have a points deduction? - I always find the need to refer back to posts, and prove your right in a years time quite odd
    Not a points deduction, but a team who won’t be equipped for the league and will struggle. Poorly phrased be me, but they will be whataboutery crowds choice next year 
    With the likes of McGrandles and Hackett in their team, I'd expect them to need to improve a lot... I wouldnt be surprised it they were the pick for 24th before a ball gets kicked in anger - But the Championship is weird, you've got Hull in 5th with a Transfer Embargo, and Derby 4-pts off the Play-Offs. A year ago they avoided relegation courtesy of Goal Difference, and a solitary point.
    The EFL is nothing like the Premier League, its so much more competitive and just simply bizarre
    It would take a brave idiot to even try and predict what'll happen in a years time

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  • timken
    timken Posts: 1,105
    NabySarr said:
    West stand were clapping Roy as he came out of the tunnel. Embarrassing 
    Yeah, if they’d abused him we would have won that game

    🤷‍♂️
    why is it embarrasing that we are polite to old people?
  • timken
    timken Posts: 1,105
    Shouldn’t the winning goal yest be given as Mannion og?
    i think so
  • timken
    timken Posts: 1,105
    Need at least a draw against Watford now. 

    What makes it worse is that Bristol are pretty shite. We aren't much better it seems but they had the one thing we don't..a game changer in Twine. I genuinely believe Fullah can step up these last few games because the lad plays without fear and will just give everything.

    Whilst we can all appreciate players have off days, that needs to be rectified asap or we will be bang in trouble. 
    It is that lack of a game changer a "yann kermogant " or similar someone with real quality that we are missing
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,449
    edited April 4
    Lincoln were basically promoted yesterday with 6 games to spare. No-one should take them lightly, tight little ground fans almost on top of the pitch. Who knows they may have owners who have a bit more ambition than us. I hope we stay up as thats a great weekend away...if we make it.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,381
    Lincoln were basically promoted yesterday with 6 games to spare. No-one would should take them lightly. Who knows they may have owners who have a bit more ambition than us.
    They have a mid table league 1 budget, and much smaller revenue than us. They literally aren’t able to be more ambitious than us. Plus our owners are clearly quite ambitious 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,381

    North upper yesterday 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,127
    ross1 said:
    Miserable performance. The amount of times one of their players got the ball in their half and run almost to our goal area before being challenged.
    All the stupid free kicks we give away, especially when we are in their half and going towards their goal. 
    If we stay up, and I am losing faith, we need nearly a new team or go down next season. If it was not for the points we got early season, we would be in bottom three by now.
    Not looking forward to Monday 

    Yeah good point. If we hadn't got as many points as we have we'd be relegated by now.
    It doesn't matter when you get the points as long as you get them 
    That’s true but I think the point he is making is relevant because for us this season it was coming from a promotion boost. Next season we won’t have that euphoria behind us at the start. It’s not called ’second season syndrome’ for nothing. 

    Anyway,  imo, we’re not safe yet. We need at least one more win, maybe two. I reckon we’ll do it by surprising everyone by doing the double over Ipswich and pushing Millwall to promotion, when we should be getting two wins asap and rolling out the red carpet to Ipswich.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 14,186
    As much as TC should be doing a lot better there we all know finishing isn't his strong suit. Godden missed two absolutely brilliant chances and his role is almost exclusively as a poacher. The one where he was in behind the defence and just had to put it anywhere other than directly on the keeper with no power was an absolute gift, the easiest chance of the game and he messed it up. Not long after that he benefited from another flick on and sent it wide of the goal instead of getting it on target. It was a harder chance but it's the kind he's there to put away. I pretty much expect TC to do some daft stuff in front of goal but when you bring on a striker with the express purpose of finishing the chances we're creating while the opposition are under the cosh him failing to do that is really bad, I'm much more frustrated with his efforts than Campbell's. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,992
    timken said:
    Need at least a draw against Watford now. 

    What makes it worse is that Bristol are pretty shite. We aren't much better it seems but they had the one thing we don't..a game changer in Twine. I genuinely believe Fullah can step up these last few games because the lad plays without fear and will just give everything.

    Whilst we can all appreciate players have off days, that needs to be rectified asap or we will be bang in trouble. 
    It is that lack of a game changer a "yann kermogant " or similar someone with real quality that we are missing
    What would help but having anyone with anything about them in midfield and wingbacks with any quality would negate the need for that kind of player .  I do think our forwards would score goals with service .  Kelman and Godden/ Dykes , Leaburn that is .  TC could play with prime Barcelona and wouldn’t score 

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  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,793
    edited April 4
    Thought Lloyd Jones had one of the worst performances of our season yesterday, genuinely woeful, so much so I would have considered subbing him off (absolutely unthinkable before yesterday for the clear player of the season).

    Doc and Coventry may as well have sat in the stands and watched for the impact they had on the game.  Chambers is too lightweight, and Mannion with that goal, no words.  Kelman wondered around, disinterested, not wanting to compete for anything and lost whilst the cross sung about him being on fire!  It was a truly honking performance for 70 minutes.  

    NJones should have made a change or two at half time, instead he sent us out and watched as we managed to look even worse in the first 15-20 before he did finally change it.

    Bristol City were willing but poor, there were 3 points waiting to be won had we been braver.  Would have near enough ensured our survival.  I still think one win will do it but we need that in the next 3 games as I don't like the look of the last 3.
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 11,039
    panther10 said:
    If  we lose to watford and leicester beat wensday and portsmouth beat oxford then we are right back in the scrap 
    And if we win at  Watford, we are safe
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,548
    As has been mentioned already, but we’re such a poor team with the ball in possession.  

    We’re excellent when we have to dig in and make it hard for teams to break us down, but when the onus is on us to win, we don’t have the talent.  

    You would absolutely hope we have enough not to do the unthinkable (and if the unthinkable happened from this position then Jones would absolutely deserve to go, no excuses), but if we are still in this division next year then an overhaul is needed in personnel and approach.  

    It’s been painfully obvious how weak our midfield three have been for a number of months now.  There has been the odd good game where Docherty has been very good off the ball and praised deservedly, but as the season reaches its climax, the gaps are there to see.  Coventry can’t do it at this level.  Carey has done very well with his goal return, but in the games where he doesn’t score, he’s anonymous and often a passenger.

    Unfortunately our two first choice wing backs are both loanees, so if we continue with this setup next season, we’re having to start again in those positions as well.  I have a lot of time for Edwards and he’s been sorely missed, but given his injury it’s going to be asking a lot for him to get back into the swing of things.  The first choice back three of Ramsay, Jones and Bell are very strong, and Schenje was brought forward so I can only imagine we’ll add one more in that area.  

    The GK position is up for grabs.  Mannion has deserved is run in the team but I imagine Kaminski will be back on Monday, and he’s a very erratic keeper.

    I don’t mind our forward line, and this is absolutely the hardest spot to find real quality.  Dykes deserves a contract.  I still think we can get more out of Kelman with better players in the middle and more delivery.  Leaburn is effective as a sub and TC should be given one more chance next season to see if he can deliver at this level, but it would be good to strengthen up top as well.  

    First and foremost we need to stay up.  I’ll take two ugly draws out the next two or one win.  Our responses have been okay this season when we’ve had to, Leicester an example.  Jones needs to set them up to dig in on Monday and aim for at least a point given our cushion over the bottom three.  Preston will be tough because we’ll be expected to break them down, we don’t have it in us, so given the points total, and our limited ability on the ball, it wouldn’t be insane to set up to try and get a point out of that game too.  

    Hopefully Jones has reiterated we’re not out the woods yet and we see a response on Monday 
  • raytreacy
    raytreacy Posts: 234
    I read somewhere that we have only scored 19 goals from open play this Season. I can’t verify that Stat but if true is an appalling statistic.
  • BexhillAddick
    BexhillAddick Posts: 172
    Lincoln were basically promoted yesterday with 6 games to spare. No-one should take them lightly, tight little ground fans almost on top of the pitch. Who knows they may have owners who have a bit more ambition than us. I hope we stay up as thats a great weekend away...if we make it.
    Also. According to my Lincoln mate they have a billionaire owner so won't be short of a few bob. I guess it will be ffp that restricts them but we shouldn't automatically assume they will be the whipping boys of the division next year.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 99,219
    edited April 4
    Not one to usually pick holes on Nathan's press conference, but think he's got it wrong to complain (in part) about the scheduling of the World Cup Qualifiers... Think he's right to complain that the games were basically in the early hours of Wednesday, what with domestic games on the Friday, that could have been scheduled better by FIFA. But he's got to remember it wasn't just Jamaica and Congo involved, there were four other teams as part of a mini Play-Off tournament to reach the World Cup, and made sense to have it on neutral ground where the hosts are playing, because you've got countries involved from all confederations, baring Europe.
    Bizarre though how Bell got one flight, and Campbell got another. But from previous International Windows, that sounds a bit of another complaint as to how inept the Jamaican Football Federation have been of late, and seems to fall on the players to organise these things themselves.
    Credit to Bell if he landed back at 11am on Thursday, and went straight to Sparrows Lane, as again going by Jones' comments, it was Campbell (who getting back at 5pm) was the one who didnt get a chance to do any training.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 1,172
    We were well beaten by the better team and are not yet safe from relegation.
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 5,381
    edited April 4
    raytreacy said:
    I read somewhere that we have only scored 19 goals from open play this Season. I can’t verify that Stat but if true is an appalling statistic.
    According to Opta we have scored 37 goals this season, 14 from set pieces so 23 from
    open play 

    We are terrible at creating chances from open play. Yet our fans are abusing the player that has created our most chances from open play this season and usually looks the only player that can create anything that isn’t a set piece 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 25,815
    edited April 4
    NabySarr said:

    North upper yesterday 

    I'd say Godden's chance was harder to convert because of the defenders and keeper around him, whereas TC was in free air with time to spare, Godden would have lapped up that one, and that's not a direct dig at TC by the way...
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 71,593
    Last 5 homes - W1 D0 L4
    Last 5 aways - W2 D3 L0
    There is a mindset still that we are better at home, and that's where we'll get most of our points, but as your stats show, that hasn't been the case in recent weeks.

    Indeed with the lack of creativity in the team, playing away suits us as there's less pressure on us to do something.