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New Banksy in central London
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if you do not get my 'mossad black op' comment is a joke, then there is no hope for the world.Diebythesword said:
I was making an observation about the art, I'm not sure why me doing that is seemingly a worse thing than the two comments i highlighted but hey, as I said, there are some odd people on here!Callumcafc said:
It was yourself who decided to bring up someone’s profile picture. Perhaps take other people’s flags out of your eyes and look inwards.Diebythesword said:shine166 said:I think this is where lack of nuance and presumption is an issue and not separating Nationalism, Patriotism and supporting something. I support the Palestinian people and my profile pic went up when i was raising just over 16k for a charity that was helping the people being slaughtered during recent years.... doesn't mean I'm pro hamas though and the actions of them. I definitely think that the Palestinian people should have a home and these issues have been widely caused by the Balfour declaration which was enacted by us Brits.
The Golders green event by the person with mental health issues was awful, as were all the other 1000's of knife related incidents in this country over the last 12 months.
As yet I'm unaware of any manifesto being found declaring direct potential targeting of Jewish people, even though we've been told that it was his sole intention.
I would say though, if we continue down this route the thread will end up being closed and it would be a shame.
There are some odd, odd people here. Well, great sculpture nonetheless, perhaps people could take “their flag” out of their eyes for a second.MrOneLung said:
all the hallmarks of a Mossad black flag op.....Algarveaddick said:
There is now a third charge against him, an earlier attempt on the life of someone called Ismail Hussein.shine166 said:I think this is where lack of nuance and presumption is an issue. I support the Palestinian people and my profile pic went up when i was raising just over 16k for a charity that was helping the people being slaughtered during recent years.... doesn't mean I'm pro hamas though and the actions of them. I definitely think that the Palestinian people should have a home and these issues have been widely caused by the Balfour declaration which was enacted by us Brits.
The Golders green event by the person with mental health issues was awful, as were all the other 1000's of knife attacks in this country over the last 12 months.
As yet I'm unaware of any manifesto being found declaring direct potential targeting of Jewish people, even though we've been told that it was his sole intention.
I would say though, if we continue down this route the thread will end up being closed and it would be a shame.
Anyways, to keep on topic, it is obviously a very thought provoking piece of art, as evidenced just by this thread, so I would say it has met its raison d'être1 -
Diebythesword said:
I was making an observation about the art, I'm not sure why me doing that is seemingly a worse thing than the two comments i highlighted but hey, as I said, there are some odd people on here!Callumcafc said:
It was yourself who decided to bring up someone’s profile picture. Perhaps take other people’s flags out of your eyes and look inwards.Diebythesword said:shine166 said:I think this is where lack of nuance and presumption is an issue and not separating Nationalism, Patriotism and supporting something. I support the Palestinian people and my profile pic went up when i was raising just over 16k for a charity that was helping the people being slaughtered during recent years.... doesn't mean I'm pro hamas though and the actions of them. I definitely think that the Palestinian people should have a home and these issues have been widely caused by the Balfour declaration which was enacted by us Brits.
The Golders green event by the person with mental health issues was awful, as were all the other 1000's of knife related incidents in this country over the last 12 months.
As yet I'm unaware of any manifesto being found declaring direct potential targeting of Jewish people, even though we've been told that it was his sole intention.
I would say though, if we continue down this route the thread will end up being closed and it would be a shame.
There are some odd, odd people here. Well, great sculpture nonetheless, perhaps people could take “their flag” out of their eyes for a second.MrOneLung said:
all the hallmarks of a Mossad black flag op.....Algarveaddick said:
There is now a third charge against him, an earlier attempt on the life of someone called Ismail Hussein.shine166 said:I think this is where lack of nuance and presumption is an issue. I support the Palestinian people and my profile pic went up when i was raising just over 16k for a charity that was helping the people being slaughtered during recent years.... doesn't mean I'm pro hamas though and the actions of them. I definitely think that the Palestinian people should have a home and these issues have been widely caused by the Balfour declaration which was enacted by us Brits.
The Golders green event by the person with mental health issues was awful, as were all the other 1000's of knife attacks in this country over the last 12 months.
As yet I'm unaware of any manifesto being found declaring direct potential targeting of Jewish people, even though we've been told that it was his sole intention.
I would say though, if we continue down this route the thread will end up being closed and it would be a shame.
Anyways, to keep on topic, it is obviously a very thought provoking piece of art, as evidenced just by this thread, so I would say it has met its raison d'être
What was so bad about my comment ? If it was a racially motivated attack its obviously disgusting, but the only people saying it was are the media. There are 3 victims and we are only being told the ethnicity of 2. Im going out on a limb, but I'm guessing Ishmail Hussein isnt Jewish. There's only 1 person on this thread with a Nationalistic outlook and it certainly isnt me.3 -
Just as a reminder, you said: “Perhaps somebody should have a think about their profile pic in relation to this bit of art…”Diebythesword said:
I was making an observation about the art, I'm not sure why me doing that is seemingly a worse thing than the two comments i highlighted but hey, as I said, there are some odd people on here!Callumcafc said:
It was yourself who decided to bring up someone’s profile picture. Perhaps take other people’s flags out of your eyes and look inwards.Diebythesword said:shine166 said:I think this is where lack of nuance and presumption is an issue and not separating Nationalism, Patriotism and supporting something. I support the Palestinian people and my profile pic went up when i was raising just over 16k for a charity that was helping the people being slaughtered during recent years.... doesn't mean I'm pro hamas though and the actions of them. I definitely think that the Palestinian people should have a home and these issues have been widely caused by the Balfour declaration which was enacted by us Brits.
The Golders green event by the person with mental health issues was awful, as were all the other 1000's of knife related incidents in this country over the last 12 months.
As yet I'm unaware of any manifesto being found declaring direct potential targeting of Jewish people, even though we've been told that it was his sole intention.
I would say though, if we continue down this route the thread will end up being closed and it would be a shame.
There are some odd, odd people here. Well, great sculpture nonetheless, perhaps people could take “their flag” out of their eyes for a second.MrOneLung said:
all the hallmarks of a Mossad black flag op.....Algarveaddick said:
There is now a third charge against him, an earlier attempt on the life of someone called Ismail Hussein.shine166 said:I think this is where lack of nuance and presumption is an issue. I support the Palestinian people and my profile pic went up when i was raising just over 16k for a charity that was helping the people being slaughtered during recent years.... doesn't mean I'm pro hamas though and the actions of them. I definitely think that the Palestinian people should have a home and these issues have been widely caused by the Balfour declaration which was enacted by us Brits.
The Golders green event by the person with mental health issues was awful, as were all the other 1000's of knife attacks in this country over the last 12 months.
As yet I'm unaware of any manifesto being found declaring direct potential targeting of Jewish people, even though we've been told that it was his sole intention.
I would say though, if we continue down this route the thread will end up being closed and it would be a shame.
Anyways, to keep on topic, it is obviously a very thought provoking piece of art, as evidenced just by this thread, so I would say it has met its raison d'être
Not sure the conversation would’ve even gone there otherwise.Other comments you highlighted are a separate discussion that I don’t wish to engage in due to expectation that it will get this thread closed (it’s probably already there anyway).0 -
I met my wife whilst working in Waterloo Place in the 80s so it’s quite clearly a depiction of me blinded by love stepping into the unknown!15
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I just can't fathom how Banksy after all these years has never been totally identified. Especially in this day and age with CCTV and social media. Really hope that continues0
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Robin GunninghamKarim_myBagheri said:I just can't fathom how Banksy after all these years has never been totally identified. Especially in this day and age with CCTV and social media. Really hope that continues0 -
Well that's ruined it.. Shame reallyshine166 said:
Robin GunninghamKarim_myBagheri said:I just can't fathom how Banksy after all these years has never been totally identified. Especially in this day and age with CCTV and social media. Really hope that continues6 -
Its been known in circles for years and the media seemed to respect it, but unfortunately Reuters decided to do a deep dig into it all this year, not Idea why as there must be more important things to report on.Karim_myBagheri said:
Well that's ruined it.. Shame reallyshine166 said:
Robin GunninghamKarim_myBagheri said:I just can't fathom how Banksy after all these years has never been totally identified. Especially in this day and age with CCTV and social media. Really hope that continues0 -
Just as much in the dark…🤦shine166 said:
Robin GunninghamKarim_myBagheri said:I just can't fathom how Banksy after all these years has never been totally identified. Especially in this day and age with CCTV and social media. Really hope that continues0 -
Bless you.shine166 said:
Robin GunninghamKarim_myBagheri said:I just can't fathom how Banksy after all these years has never been totally identified. Especially in this day and age with CCTV and social media. Really hope that continues
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Back to the Art of Banksy, I saw Keith Allen share this piece a few weeks ago, apparently he hung from a scaff pole (not a euphemism) in Banksys studio to model for this work that went up in Bristol many years ago, thats the collage which became the reference image.1 -
He has been distracted for the last 20 years thinking of Nigel Farage's arse!DennisBooth said:
Where have you been?jimmymelrose said:Never heard of Banksy before but I love that. If they sell minitures, someone should stick it up deep up Farage’s arsehole.
’Let’s raise a flag that has no colour
Release the sun into the empty cathedral, yeah.’1 -
If you haven't banned from a Charlton Life thread, you haven't lived!O-Randy-Hunt said:
Agree. Pretty sure that's what got you banned on here last time me old matejose said:Isn’t it true that despite everything political comments are on this thread and the fuel thread?
I was under the impression that those even venturing within a tiny bit of political conversation would be banned by the moderators.
In terms of history 2026 is the 100 year anniversary of the seminal British General Strike, which had marches and banners and flags, so maybe Banksy has created a memorial to those brave idealists that participated in that General Strike.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1926_United_Kingdom_general_strike
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Exactlyshine166 said:
Its been known in circles for years and the media seemed to respect it, but unfortunately Reuters decided to do a deep dig into it all this year, not Idea why as there must be more important things to report on.Karim_myBagheri said:
Well that's ruined it.. Shame reallyshine166 said:
Robin GunninghamKarim_myBagheri said:I just can't fathom how Banksy after all these years has never been totally identified. Especially in this day and age with CCTV and social media. Really hope that continues
Who the fuck gave Ahadme a 4 year contract3 -
Phwooooorrrtallboy said:
He has been distracted for the last 20 years thinking of Nigel Farage's arse!DennisBooth said:
Where have you been?jimmymelrose said:Never heard of Banksy before but I love that. If they sell minitures, someone should stick it up deep up Farage’s arsehole.
’Let’s raise a flag that has no colour
Release the sun into the empty cathedral, yeah.’0 -
My friend who is curator at Tate Modern just sent me this
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Think we should be asking who gave him a contract at all let alone 4 yearsblackpool72 said:
Exactlyshine166 said:
Its been known in circles for years and the media seemed to respect it, but unfortunately Reuters decided to do a deep dig into it all this year, not Idea why as there must be more important things to report on.Karim_myBagheri said:
Well that's ruined it.. Shame reallyshine166 said:
Robin GunninghamKarim_myBagheri said:I just can't fathom how Banksy after all these years has never been totally identified. Especially in this day and age with CCTV and social media. Really hope that continues
Who the fuck gave Ahadme a 4 year contract0 -
Maybe that's what makes the Banksy piece so clever, that it encourages discussion in places where it wouldn't usually be a thing. I wasn't taken with it at first, but it's growing on me.jose said:Isn’t it true that despite everything political comments are on this thread and the fuel thread?
I was under the impression that those even venturing within a tiny bit of political conversation would be banned by the moderators.
In terms of history 2026 is the 100 year anniversary of the seminal British General Strike, which had marches and banners and flags, so maybe Banksy has created a memorial to those brave idealists that participated in that General Strike.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1926_United_Kingdom_general_strike2 -
Ooooh, get her!EugenesAxe said:My friend who is curator at Tate Modern just sent me this6 -
I think there is a common disdain in the art world for Banksy.EugenesAxe said:My friend who is curator at Tate Modern just sent me this
They say he has a 50 million pound bank account and given his subversive subject matter the two are hardly compatible.
Either way I like his new work. My suspicion lies around the H&S aspect of a large lump of metal balancing on one foot above a London Street. I reckon Westminster council must've had more input than they're letting on. They're certainly revelling in the reflective glory.2 -
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I don’t think it’s metal….but the point remains.Raith_C_Chattonell said:
I think there is a common disdain in the art world for Banksy.EugenesAxe said:My friend who is curator at Tate Modern just sent me this
They say he has a 50 million pound bank account and given his subversive subject matter the two are hardly compatible.
Either way I like his new work. My suspicion lies around the H&S aspect of a large lump of metal balancing on one foot above a London Street. I reckon Westminster council must've had more input than they're letting on. They're certainly revelling in the reflective glory.1 -
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There is definitely snobbery against street art/graffiti as a genre, which is a shame as people like Banksy and Keith Haring deserve a spot. The 'beyond the streets' exhibition in 2023 at Saatchi was incredibly well attended for months, so there's definitely a appetite for it.Raith_C_Chattonell said:
I think there is a common disdain in the art world for Banksy.EugenesAxe said:My friend who is curator at Tate Modern just sent me this
They say he has a 50 million pound bank account and given his subversive subject matter the two are hardly compatible.
Either way I like his new work. My suspicion lies around the H&S aspect of a large lump of metal balancing on one foot above a London Street. I reckon Westminster council must've had more input than they're letting on. They're certainly revelling in the reflective glory.
Tate modern is a bit of a wasted opportunity, unless you're paying for one of the specialist exhibitions that change 3 times a year then you could attend years apart and the exact same work be on display.2 -
It's resin apparentlySuedeAdidas said:
I don’t think it’s metal….but the point remains.Raith_C_Chattonell said:
I think there is a common disdain in the art world for Banksy.EugenesAxe said:My friend who is curator at Tate Modern just sent me this
They say he has a 50 million pound bank account and given his subversive subject matter the two are hardly compatible.
Either way I like his new work. My suspicion lies around the H&S aspect of a large lump of metal balancing on one foot above a London Street. I reckon Westminster council must've had more input than they're letting on. They're certainly revelling in the reflective glory.0 -
She's got a mouth on her.Leroy Ambrose said:
Ooooh, get her!EugenesAxe said:My friend who is curator at Tate Modern just sent me this1 -
Id imagine its fibre glass, easier to replicate that way too. There will be high end collectors who also own one of these.EugenesAxe said:
It's resin apparentlySuedeAdidas said:
I don’t think it’s metal….but the point remains.Raith_C_Chattonell said:
I think there is a common disdain in the art world for Banksy.EugenesAxe said:My friend who is curator at Tate Modern just sent me this
They say he has a 50 million pound bank account and given his subversive subject matter the two are hardly compatible.
Either way I like his new work. My suspicion lies around the H&S aspect of a large lump of metal balancing on one foot above a London Street. I reckon Westminster council must've had more input than they're letting on. They're certainly revelling in the reflective glory.1 -
I agree but the idea of anyone who has anything to do with the Tate modern calling any art shit is peak irony.EugenesAxe said:My friend who is curator at Tate Modern just sent me this4 -
Well, have you had a gig there? I wouldn't mind one...Huskaris said:
I agree but the idea of anyone who has anything to do with the Tate modern calling any art shit is peak irony.EugenesAxe said:My friend who is curator at Tate Modern just sent me thisOne of her favourite pieces of conceptual art is "Evidence Locker" by Jill Magid, just as some context for you, as that's the thing about Art isn't it, it's about context, and everyones perception of that is different.1 -
I said a very similar thing, and as a Curator you get assigned a particular space, some areas of the place do stretch the concept of Contemporary Art as they seem just as much a Museum. I've not actually been in there for a couple years now.shine166 said:
There is definitely snobbery against street art/graffiti as a genre, which is a shame as people like Banksy and Keith Haring deserve a spot. The 'beyond the streets' exhibition in 2023 at Saatchi was incredibly well attended for months, so there's definitely a appetite for it.Raith_C_Chattonell said:
I think there is a common disdain in the art world for Banksy.EugenesAxe said:My friend who is curator at Tate Modern just sent me this
They say he has a 50 million pound bank account and given his subversive subject matter the two are hardly compatible.
Either way I like his new work. My suspicion lies around the H&S aspect of a large lump of metal balancing on one foot above a London Street. I reckon Westminster council must've had more input than they're letting on. They're certainly revelling in the reflective glory.
Tate modern is a bit of a wasted opportunity, unless you're paying for one of the specialist exhibitions that change 3 times a year then you could attend years apart and the exact same work be on display.Street Art and Graffiti are among my favourite styles, particularly its intersection with Music.1 -
You would have loved the Saatchi show, had loads of Jamie Reid (Sex Pistols, GSTQ etc)EugenesAxe said:
I said a very similar thing, and as a Curator you get assigned a particular space, some areas of the place do stretch the concept of Contemporary Art as they seem just as much a Museum. I've not actually been in there for a couple years now.shine166 said:
There is definitely snobbery against street art/graffiti as a genre, which is a shame as people like Banksy and Keith Haring deserve a spot. The 'beyond the streets' exhibition in 2023 at Saatchi was incredibly well attended for months, so there's definitely a appetite for it.Raith_C_Chattonell said:
I think there is a common disdain in the art world for Banksy.EugenesAxe said:My friend who is curator at Tate Modern just sent me this
They say he has a 50 million pound bank account and given his subversive subject matter the two are hardly compatible.
Either way I like his new work. My suspicion lies around the H&S aspect of a large lump of metal balancing on one foot above a London Street. I reckon Westminster council must've had more input than they're letting on. They're certainly revelling in the reflective glory.
Tate modern is a bit of a wasted opportunity, unless you're paying for one of the specialist exhibitions that change 3 times a year then you could attend years apart and the exact same work be on display.Street Art and Graffiti are among my favourite styles, particularly its intersection with Music.2
