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England v Argentina | World Cup Semi Final | 15 July 2026

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,557
    Just had to stick on saka and Watkins and hit balls over the top for the last 20. 

    Argentina were committed to attacking and both cbs on yellows.

    Old tuchels bum went. Bottled it.
    Said to my wife I’d have Watkins on, balls into the channels, get us up the pitch, relieve the pressure, ease ourselves back into the game.
  • Hopefully Jude calls out Thomas Tuchel's tactical incompetence, as quickly as Thomas Tuchel called out the player's quality in the quarters. Absolute masterclass in how not to manage a World Cup semi final. When you're playing Dan Burn as an emergency striker, you really have f*cked up.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 10,496
    PWR

    My wife, who’s Argentinian, just said to me in disappointment: ’I wanted to see you happy.’

    I replied: ’with England that’s never going to happen. You may as well get my tombstone ready with my DOB and a space for my death 2050- whatever, and write on it now ’never saw England win a tournament ’’

    I’m angry with Tuchel. He f***ed this up. I said with the substitutions that it wouldn't finish 1-0. How many times have you seen a team defend a one goal lead successfully for 25 minutes against a top team? Tuchel let the team down. People complained about Southgate but ultimately,  when it came to the crunch, Tuchel made the same mistake.  Get in a new manager who won’t shit himself at the crucial moment. He had that in his hands and threw it away. It’s bad management,  simple as that.
  • BlackfenLen
    BlackfenLen Posts: 182
    Same old, same old. We'll never learn. Rather than keep the ball for 5/10mins after scoring we revert to type and panic defend. I had hoped our manager would have seen the past umpteen tournaments where that hasn't worked and installed a stronger mindset in our players. Clearly English footballers are incapable of mental fortitude. 
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,628
    Laddick01 said:
    The foundations are still good for the next 4 years. 

    Rice, Bellingham, Anderson (who really grew into this tournament) stays together most likely. Hopefully we can add a little more depth there.

    Loads of attacking talent coming through - Ngumoha, Dowman etc. 

    Hopefully some of our out of form talent can pick it up (Foden, Palmer etc.)

    We shouldn’t be a million miles off either a WC or Euros final, but we can’t fold like that again. Really really bad way to go out.
    We say that after every tournament. Wake up.
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,231
    Waited a while to calm down from the initial sting and emotion. Opinion hasn't changed. Tuchel's fault. Horrendous subs. Sacked in the morning. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,557
    Jonniesta said:
    Waited a while to calm down from the initial sting and emotion. Opinion hasn't changed. Tuchel's fault. Horrendous subs. Sacked in the morning. 
    Won’t be sacked, should resign. Failure.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,844
    Oh well, I didn't want a holiday on Monday in any case 🤷‍♂️
  • Stuart_the_Red
    Stuart_the_Red Posts: 2,090
    Oh well! I suppose we can concentrate on the league now!
  • Sniffybadger
    Sniffybadger Posts: 64
    Wouldn’t mind seeing Messi’s tackle on Spence in slow mo VAR that lead to the goal. Of course we won’t but I do wonder if he caught Spence heavy after the ball that we’ve seen given, with cards in this tournament. 

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  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 5,557
    At least it confirmed for me that I am now totally impervious to disappointment by England.
    Really couldn't care less.
    It really hurts me when Charlton lose, especially if it's an important game or a game against the scum but many years of under-performance by England means, for me, it's "oh well, quelle surprise".
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,733
    He’s talking a load of waffle. Just go. 
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 8,545
    DRAddick said:
    Laddick01 said:
    The foundations are still good for the next 4 years. 

    Rice, Bellingham, Anderson (who really grew into this tournament) stays together most likely. Hopefully we can add a little more depth there.

    Loads of attacking talent coming through - Ngumoha, Dowman etc. 

    Hopefully some of our out of form talent can pick it up (Foden, Palmer etc.)

    We shouldn’t be a million miles off either a WC or Euros final, but we can’t fold like that again. Really really bad way to go out.
    We say that after every tournament. Wake up.
    It just the reality though. Loss feels shit but the talent pool is still in a good place. 

    One day we will get it right and it’ll be quality. 
  • LittleAddick
    LittleAddick Posts: 944
    Tuchel post match: "If it doesn't go well it's easy to blame the coach," yeh mate that's generally how things work ffs.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 36,844
    And if that is the best an England manager can do them they might as well employ Nathan Jones - he'd be a damn sight cheaper  ! 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 13,689
    Not a great interview from Tuchel afterwards. Proper wanky attitude 
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,733
    Now beginning to wonder if Gabriel Clarke had a role in all this? 
  • Very poor after we scored. Southgate type management. No outlet up front. Poor from Tuchel to think we could just hold them out for 25 minutes.
    Played well until after we scored.
    Gutted.
    60 years of hurt has now stopped me dreaming. Just not good enough to win a world cup or probably a Euros either.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 13,553
    Thats a piss poor interview.

    Literally doesnt give a fuck. Jog on - basically we are doing the same as we did with Southgate, but with a guy who gives less of a fuck.
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 10,005
    Having listened to that he absolutely has to go. 

    Absolute fucking disgrace. 

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  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 3,009
    And if that is the best an England manager can do them they might as well employ Nathan Jones - he'd be a damn sight cheaper  ! 
    I'd properly fear for your sanity if that happened mate! 
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,501
    12% possession from England after going ahead. Incredible. 

    Ive seen Charlton have more possession than that when we are practically defending on our goal line. 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 18,812
    I'm convinced it's just too ingrained in our national psyche. We just aren't going to win it. Ever. We will find one way or another to bottle it. 


    Maybe at some point we will have a national reckoning as some kind of atonement for past wrongs and then maybe we will be free from the curse.
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 17,733
    Very poor after we scored. Southgate type management. No outlet up front. Poor from Tuchel to think we could just hold them out for 25 minutes.
    Played well until after we scored.
    Gutted.
    60 years of hurt has now stopped me dreaming. Just not good enough to win a world cup or probably a Euros either.
    25? We scored on 55 so you’re taking 35 + 10 =45 
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 10,005
    Thomas Tuchel must have naked pictures of Joe Hart or something for him to be sticking up for him like this 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,266
    I wasn't expecting Wayne Rooney to be talking more sense than Tuchel tonight.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 43,451
    We had 12% possession from the time we went 1-0 up
  • charente addick
    charente addick Posts: 4,015
    Rooney summing everything up very well on BBC. He may not be intellectually all there but his football intelligence is beyond compare.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,863
    12% possession after our goal is unforgivable. Sitting ducks and even the worst manager in the world shouldn’t allow that.
  • Cafctekkers
    Cafctekkers Posts: 1,434
    edited July 15
    They just weren't the better team until we allowed them to be. Wish these pundits would stop insisting that they were the better team
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