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England v Argentina | World Cup Semi Final | 15 July 2026

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  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,309
    Tuchel won't be coming back from this. Leaving likes of Wharton Palmer at home were odd decisions. Crap subs after taking the lead 
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 10,005
    Rooney summing everything up very well on BBC. He may not be intellectually all there but his football intelligence is beyond compare.
    Clearly not, the guy is fucking inept as a manager, it's just that Tuchel is even more useless. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 9,101
    Sack Tuchel tomorrow and I am not joking. 

    The whole point of moving on from Southgate was to eradicate the negative approach when playing the 'big' nations. 

    Our selection of players is far too great to try and hold on to a lead for almost 50 minutes. 

    Sack him now and see if Pep fancies the challenge. 

    Disgraceful performance. 
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 8,545
    The more I think about those last 25 minutes, why didn’t we have anyone just following Messi if we were sitting that deep.

    Sub Kane, who offered very little anyway and literally just have O’Reilly never more than an inch from Messi.

    Instead we gave the most talented player to ever play the game the whole right wing. I bet Messi couldn’t believe it.  It defied belief that this man is earning millions of pounds.

    It’s rare you can say this, but I think Tuchel made every single poor choice available to him. I feel very indifferent to him.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,557
    At least it confirmed for me that I am now totally impervious to disappointment by England.
    Really couldn't care less.
    It really hurts me when Charlton lose, especially if it's an important game or a game against the scum but many years of under-performance by England means, for me, it's "oh well, quelle surprise".
    Been saying it for years. I don’t get excited over England because I know at the end of the day it’ll all turn to shit. 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 19,000
    Just thinking about the clowns at the FA who renewed his contract before the tournament. Another old boys club with no accountability. 
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 10,005
    This is the worst snatching defeat from the jaws of victory I have ever seen from England in knockout tournament football. 

    See you all in 2 years  :D
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 18,059

  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,878
    Anyway, to cheer us all up I’ve just checked what’s on at the National Railway Museum over the coming months 

    YORK RAILWAY INSTITUTE BAND PERFORMANCE – GREAT HALL, 29 AUGUST 

    Visitors to the National Railway Museum will be able to enjoy a special performance from the York Railway Institute Band on Saturday 29 August at 14.00. The hour-long programme will feature a selection of brass band music inspired by holidays and trains, celebrating the spirit of travel in the museum's unique railway setting.

  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 12,178
    Been sitting here for the last 20 mins agreeing with everything Rooney is saying.

    I feel dirty.

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  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 9,131
    we literally had the whole of their half to run into and we didn't put any pace on up top - when a team throws caution to the wind and dominated us like they did, that's the rub - you do that but you open yourself up to the break away - basic management - we took the pace we had off - tuchel? get rid. 
  • lancashire lad
    lancashire lad Posts: 15,890
    Just admit that we were beaten by a better team
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 24,622
    Just after England scored, Argentina lost the ball in their own third. They were rattled. There to be finished off. Fucksake. 
  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,983
    How it went
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 33,381
    I’d been a big advocate for Tuchel. I’m not taking a Scot in @se9addick calling me out for calling for his head after that. (Smiley smiley in case anyone decides to think I’m serious re SE9. I do mean it re Tuchel, though.)
    It’s all good Weegie, I actually wanted England to win that match and am a bit gutted they didn’t (I mean, I won’t lose sleep but still…).
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 73,266
    With our 433/4231 we had 2 players on the left, and we kept Messi quiet.

    We take Gordon off to become more "defensive " and Messi runs the show, with Spence getting no support. 
  • Sniffybadger
    Sniffybadger Posts: 64
    edited July 15
    Also wtf happened to Pickford, those last two goals he was all over the place?! He’s lost his head completely. Harsh on Tuchel, I get the pelters on defence and I think his big mistake was putting Burn on. Yes he’s great in the last two but against technical teams he’s exposed, hugely, the old big English lad wasn’t the option in this game. We needed pace and counter threat but we had none so the Argies knew they could camp as we had no output 
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,628
    Laddick01 said:
    DRAddick said:
    Laddick01 said:
    The foundations are still good for the next 4 years. 

    Rice, Bellingham, Anderson (who really grew into this tournament) stays together most likely. Hopefully we can add a little more depth there.

    Loads of attacking talent coming through - Ngumoha, Dowman etc. 

    Hopefully some of our out of form talent can pick it up (Foden, Palmer etc.)

    We shouldn’t be a million miles off either a WC or Euros final, but we can’t fold like that again. Really really bad way to go out.
    We say that after every tournament. Wake up.
    It just the reality though. Loss feels shit but the talent pool is still in a good place. 

    One day we will get it right and it’ll be quality. 
    The reality is England have had great players and a decent talent pool for decades, and are always near to getting it right. We still fail every time. That's the only reality we actually witness and is not based on optimism.
  • Arkers
    Arkers Posts: 70
    I’m think they turned into a Southgate team.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,056
    Have a suspicion if Tuchel goes it'll be Eddie Howe. 

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 67,420

    https://x.com/optajoe/status/2077501567754715167


    2 - There are just two occasions of a team scoring first in the semi-final but not reaching the final of the FIFA World Cup in the 21st century – both of them are England (vs Croatia in 2018 and Argentina in 2026).


    Familiar.

  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,790
    Been sitting here for the last 20 mins agreeing with everything Rooney is saying.

    I feel dirty.
    Surprised you could understand him, dis they start subtitling him? Fair play for listening through all that shite though. I walked out just before the whistle blew.

    we knew they were going to throw everything at us and that they always always score. Defending a 1 goal lead deep does not work against a quality attack, we all know that, so should Tuchel. Fucking stupid.
  • Sniffybadger
    Sniffybadger Posts: 64
    Oh and also Messi’s Beckham style kick out on Spence when Anderson got booked was also close to the mark. Fine margins in that first half 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 43,451
    This graphic totally sums up the second half from when we scored to when they went 2-1 up

  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 15,213
    It’s a shame, Tuchel seemed to have taken the Southgate approach of being hard to beat and picking a squad to suit the tournament not just the best players, but with far better in-game management than Southgate had. He’d been good up to this point with how he managed the games against DR Congo, Mexico and Norway but he got this one so wrong. Not only was it hard to watch the team trying to protect a lead for that long but they were 10 yards too deep doing it. There were so many warning signs but no changes and then we were so unbalanced at the end when we needed a goal the strategy was focused on Konsa putting crosses into the box. 

    On the plus side I have a hospital appointment on Monday so that bank holiday was lost on me anyway. Every cloud 
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,878
    “Sack Tuchel for being a pathetically weak manager and sitting back against Argentina for 30 minutes and bringing on 6 defenders and letting them still score from an unmarked header”

    “Lynn could you call Gareth Southgate and….sorry, that was something else”
  • Afternoon Delight
    Afternoon Delight Posts: 1,127
    https://news.sky.com/story/world-cup-live-england-argentina-messi-latest-13535760

    You may have won the battle but you didn't win the war.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,863


    This is what we lost too 🤢
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 43,451
    It’s a shame, Tuchel seemed to have taken the Southgate approach of being hard to beat and picking a squad to suit the tournament not just the best players, but with far better in-game management than Southgate had. He’d been good up to this point with how he managed the games against DR Congo, Mexico and Norway but he got this one so wrong. Not only was it hard to watch the team trying to protect a lead for that long but they were 10 yards too deep doing it. There were so many warning signs but no changes and then we were so unbalanced at the end when we needed a goal the strategy was focused on Konsa putting crosses into the box. 

    On the plus side I have a hospital appointment on Monday so that bank holiday was lost on me anyway. Every cloud 
    Think it was going to be Friday 24th July. Good luck with the appointment nevertheless. 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 13,553
    OK - THEY ARE OFFICIALLY STILL CNUTS.

    Been shown flying a flag saying the Falklands is still Argentinas. Win a world cup semi final and they are still obsessed about that. Tried to get it once, and had their arses totally battered.

    Bunch of total filthy stinking scumbags.
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