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Millenic Alli joins on a four year deal
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https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/2082511721613164916?s=46&t=33ikxRKjqn4pNEPW-1jbqgQuite funny from the club8
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Kanu - as the one likely to leave now given Apter has a knock - hasnt exactly got minutes in his legs tho has he. If he left tomorrow the chances are he would be behind and need to take a bit of time to build up minutesmendonca said:Any reason he didn't begin pre-season with Luton? No different from Karoy, Kanu, Apter doing so with us, I would have thought.
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You know what I do like that they've decided to just roll with it and see the funny side. I imagine Alli is already getting a few jokes from his new team mates too!AberystwythAddick said:https://x.com/cafcofficial/status/2082511721613164916?s=46&t=33ikxRKjqn4pNEPW-1jbqgQuite funny from the club4 -
Good little section with the NTT20 boys (Ali Maxwell mostly) discussing the transfers of Fevrier, Alli and Lisbie on their pod this morning. About 30 mins in. Certainly be a good listen for any doubters of his signature as Maxwell is a fan of Alli’s.3
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I think they were also hot on Rob Apter and Jack Payne, IIRC, so, while it's always nice to hear some counterbalance to the relentless miserabilism we sometimes read on here (especially from an actually well-informed source), I wouldn't write him on or off based on that assessment.RC_CAFC said:Good little section with the NTT20 boys (Ali Maxwell mostly) discussing the transfers of Fevrier, Alli and Lisbie on their pod this morning. About 30 mins in. Certainly be a good listen for any doubters of his signature as Maxwell is a fan of Alli’s.
Personally, I'm happy we are adding some pace and directness to our attacking options. Anytime TC came out of the side last year we were very one-paced and there were times when TC was clearly tired and other's where he wasn't quite at it, but he had to play because we were even worse without him. We need a midfielder or two who can feed those players the kind of passes that get them isolated with full backs and facing goal, but we absolutely needed more of those kinds of options. Even Fevrier didn't totally offer that as he was tricky, and no slouch, but wasn't out and out rapid.
Now, the options we've brought in may not all be the highest quality that we'd ideally like, but that's the reality of our budget and rebuilding years upon years of underinvestment that was also poorly spent and in a division below. If these guys help nudge us up to, say, 14th, at the end of the season, and we actually start looking like we might score more than 1 goal a game, then they will have been decent signings.9 -
I still haven’t written Rob Apter off to be fair. Think he’s a cracking little player who probably shouldn’t have signed for us last year but maybe this year we will suit his style of play more.Exiled_Addick said:
I think they were also hot on Rob Apter and Jack Payne, IIRC, so, while it's always nice to hear some counterbalance to the relentless miserabilism we sometimes read on here (especially from an actually well-informed source), I wouldn't write him on or off based on that assessment.RC_CAFC said:Good little section with the NTT20 boys (Ali Maxwell mostly) discussing the transfers of Fevrier, Alli and Lisbie on their pod this morning. About 30 mins in. Certainly be a good listen for any doubters of his signature as Maxwell is a fan of Alli’s.
Personally, I'm happy we are adding some pace and directness to our attacking options. Anytime TC came out of the side last year we were very one-paced and there were times when TC was clearly tired and other's where he wasn't quite at it, but he had to play because we were even worse without him. We need a midfielder or two who can feed those players the kind of passes that get them isolated with full backs and facing goal, but we absolutely needed more of those kinds of options. Even Fevrier didn't totally offer that as he was tricky, and no slouch, but wasn't out and out rapid.
Now, the options we've brought in may not all be the highest quality that we'd ideally like, but that's the reality of our budget and rebuilding years upon years of underinvestment that was also poorly spent and in a division below. If these guys help nudge us up to, say, 14th, at the end of the season, and we actually start looking like we might score more than 1 goal a game, then they will have been decent signings.
Even Jack Payne has forged an excellent career in league 2 just wasn’t able to make the step up to League one where his lack of physicality was punished in a way he can get away with in league 26 -
It is interesting that Apter seems to have been written off by many. Had a poor game against Southampton - wasn’t alone , but has a lot of ability .RC_CAFC said:
I still haven’t written Rob Apter off to be fair. Think he’s a cracking little player who probably shouldn’t have signed for us last year but maybe this year we will suit his style of play more.Exiled_Addick said:
I think they were also hot on Rob Apter and Jack Payne, IIRC, so, while it's always nice to hear some counterbalance to the relentless miserabilism we sometimes read on here (especially from an actually well-informed source), I wouldn't write him on or off based on that assessment.RC_CAFC said:Good little section with the NTT20 boys (Ali Maxwell mostly) discussing the transfers of Fevrier, Alli and Lisbie on their pod this morning. About 30 mins in. Certainly be a good listen for any doubters of his signature as Maxwell is a fan of Alli’s.
Personally, I'm happy we are adding some pace and directness to our attacking options. Anytime TC came out of the side last year we were very one-paced and there were times when TC was clearly tired and other's where he wasn't quite at it, but he had to play because we were even worse without him. We need a midfielder or two who can feed those players the kind of passes that get them isolated with full backs and facing goal, but we absolutely needed more of those kinds of options. Even Fevrier didn't totally offer that as he was tricky, and no slouch, but wasn't out and out rapid.
Now, the options we've brought in may not all be the highest quality that we'd ideally like, but that's the reality of our budget and rebuilding years upon years of underinvestment that was also poorly spent and in a division below. If these guys help nudge us up to, say, 14th, at the end of the season, and we actually start looking like we might score more than 1 goal a game, then they will have been decent signings.
Even Jack Payne has forged an excellent career in league 2 just wasn’t able to make the step up to League one where his lack of physicality was punished in a way he can get away with in league 20 -
Just as an aside to this... Jack Payne scored more headed goals for us in one season than Jayden Stockley!RC_CAFC said:
I still haven’t written Rob Apter off to be fair. Think he’s a cracking little player who probably shouldn’t have signed for us last year but maybe this year we will suit his style of play more.Exiled_Addick said:
I think they were also hot on Rob Apter and Jack Payne, IIRC, so, while it's always nice to hear some counterbalance to the relentless miserabilism we sometimes read on here (especially from an actually well-informed source), I wouldn't write him on or off based on that assessment.RC_CAFC said:Good little section with the NTT20 boys (Ali Maxwell mostly) discussing the transfers of Fevrier, Alli and Lisbie on their pod this morning. About 30 mins in. Certainly be a good listen for any doubters of his signature as Maxwell is a fan of Alli’s.
Personally, I'm happy we are adding some pace and directness to our attacking options. Anytime TC came out of the side last year we were very one-paced and there were times when TC was clearly tired and other's where he wasn't quite at it, but he had to play because we were even worse without him. We need a midfielder or two who can feed those players the kind of passes that get them isolated with full backs and facing goal, but we absolutely needed more of those kinds of options. Even Fevrier didn't totally offer that as he was tricky, and no slouch, but wasn't out and out rapid.
Now, the options we've brought in may not all be the highest quality that we'd ideally like, but that's the reality of our budget and rebuilding years upon years of underinvestment that was also poorly spent and in a division below. If these guys help nudge us up to, say, 14th, at the end of the season, and we actually start looking like we might score more than 1 goal a game, then they will have been decent signings.
Even Jack Payne has forged an excellent career in league 2 just wasn’t able to make the step up to League one where his lack of physicality was punished in a way he can get away with in league 22 -
Maybe so, but did he wave his arms about as much? It all depends which stat you think is important...SteveACS said:
Just as an aside to this... Jack Payne scored more headed goals for us in one season than Jayden Stockley!RC_CAFC said:
I still haven’t written Rob Apter off to be fair. Think he’s a cracking little player who probably shouldn’t have signed for us last year but maybe this year we will suit his style of play more.Exiled_Addick said:
I think they were also hot on Rob Apter and Jack Payne, IIRC, so, while it's always nice to hear some counterbalance to the relentless miserabilism we sometimes read on here (especially from an actually well-informed source), I wouldn't write him on or off based on that assessment.RC_CAFC said:Good little section with the NTT20 boys (Ali Maxwell mostly) discussing the transfers of Fevrier, Alli and Lisbie on their pod this morning. About 30 mins in. Certainly be a good listen for any doubters of his signature as Maxwell is a fan of Alli’s.
Personally, I'm happy we are adding some pace and directness to our attacking options. Anytime TC came out of the side last year we were very one-paced and there were times when TC was clearly tired and other's where he wasn't quite at it, but he had to play because we were even worse without him. We need a midfielder or two who can feed those players the kind of passes that get them isolated with full backs and facing goal, but we absolutely needed more of those kinds of options. Even Fevrier didn't totally offer that as he was tricky, and no slouch, but wasn't out and out rapid.
Now, the options we've brought in may not all be the highest quality that we'd ideally like, but that's the reality of our budget and rebuilding years upon years of underinvestment that was also poorly spent and in a division below. If these guys help nudge us up to, say, 14th, at the end of the season, and we actually start looking like we might score more than 1 goal a game, then they will have been decent signings.
Even Jack Payne has forged an excellent career in league 2 just wasn’t able to make the step up to League one where his lack of physicality was punished in a way he can get away with in league 21 -
Fairly obvious to me at least that Rob Apter was completely unsuited to what Jones requires of a player and to the style we played last season. I do question why he was scouted and signed unless we thought of him as a player for the future and not particularly for last season. Given our budget restraints I doubt that though. Undoubtedly there’s a talent there but my worry is that his loan at Bolton was nothing short of terrible. Fans thought he had no interest at all. I’d have thought he would have put in double the effort yet apparently not. Perhaps he can be rehabilitated and moulded by Jones but sadly thus far we’ve seen precious little signs of that.wmcf123 said:
It is interesting that Apter seems to have been written off by many. Had a poor game against Southampton - wasn’t alone , but has a lot of ability .RC_CAFC said:
I still haven’t written Rob Apter off to be fair. Think he’s a cracking little player who probably shouldn’t have signed for us last year but maybe this year we will suit his style of play more.Exiled_Addick said:
I think they were also hot on Rob Apter and Jack Payne, IIRC, so, while it's always nice to hear some counterbalance to the relentless miserabilism we sometimes read on here (especially from an actually well-informed source), I wouldn't write him on or off based on that assessment.RC_CAFC said:Good little section with the NTT20 boys (Ali Maxwell mostly) discussing the transfers of Fevrier, Alli and Lisbie on their pod this morning. About 30 mins in. Certainly be a good listen for any doubters of his signature as Maxwell is a fan of Alli’s.
Personally, I'm happy we are adding some pace and directness to our attacking options. Anytime TC came out of the side last year we were very one-paced and there were times when TC was clearly tired and other's where he wasn't quite at it, but he had to play because we were even worse without him. We need a midfielder or two who can feed those players the kind of passes that get them isolated with full backs and facing goal, but we absolutely needed more of those kinds of options. Even Fevrier didn't totally offer that as he was tricky, and no slouch, but wasn't out and out rapid.
Now, the options we've brought in may not all be the highest quality that we'd ideally like, but that's the reality of our budget and rebuilding years upon years of underinvestment that was also poorly spent and in a division below. If these guys help nudge us up to, say, 14th, at the end of the season, and we actually start looking like we might score more than 1 goal a game, then they will have been decent signings.
Even Jack Payne has forged an excellent career in league 2 just wasn’t able to make the step up to League one where his lack of physicality was punished in a way he can get away with in league 22 -
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Wasn’t the theory that Apter would attempt to and succeed in beating opponents on the outside and cross the ball?
If so I can never remember that happening.
It reminds me of the Homer Simpson saying ‘Rob, you tried, you failed. The lesson is, don’t try.’0 -
It happened, on more than one occasion.jose said:Wasn’t the theory that Apter would attempt to and succeed in beating opponents on the outside and cross the ball?
If so I can never remember that happening.
It reminds me of the Homer Simpson saying ‘Rob, you tried, you failed. The lesson is, don’t try.’4 -
Last time I remember seeing Apter play, TC had been wasteful all game. Apter came on, crossed the ball and we scored.jose said:Wasn’t the theory that Apter would attempt to and succeed in beating opponents on the outside and cross the ball?
If so I can never remember that happening.
It reminds me of the Homer Simpson saying ‘Rob, you tried, you failed. The lesson is, don’t try.’7 -
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Last time I remember seeing Apter play, TC had been wasteful all game. Apter came on, crossed the ball and we scored.jose said:Wasn’t the theory that Apter would attempt to and succeed in beating opponents on the outside and cross the ball?
If so I can never remember that happening.
It reminds me of the Homer Simpson saying ‘Rob, you tried, you failed. The lesson is, don’t try.’
Same memory as you.
Apter lost his marker and put in a good cross from the right from an advanced position into the six yard box and the defender put the ball into his own goal.
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I got the sense from NTT20 that he is similar to Tanto. In so far as he has physicality, power, pace, energy but his end product is “erratic”
last year when discussing Tanto they stated that were it not for his finishing and general end product he would be a 10 mill player.Hopefully Alli can provide an end product on a lot consistent basis than it seems he has previously. We need him to!0 -
Ripped Bristol City a new one in the away game as well. Bristol had 12 players. The 11 footballers and the woodwork...Chunes said:
Last time I remember seeing Apter play, TC had been wasteful all game. Apter came on, crossed the ball and we scored.jose said:Wasn’t the theory that Apter would attempt to and succeed in beating opponents on the outside and cross the ball?
If so I can never remember that happening.
It reminds me of the Homer Simpson saying ‘Rob, you tried, you failed. The lesson is, don’t try.’0 -
Not really unsuited, unwilling to try. He was clearly very capable in the first few games and then he stopped bothering to run back. We signed him in the hopes he'd try and adapt and he couldn't be arsed. In his first interview after signing he made it clear he'd been told he'd be playing RWB and he was great at it until he just didn't like doing it anymore. If we're playing with wingers this season then he'll have less defensive responsibility but he's got a lot of work to do to get ahead of whoever we're planning on bringing in ahead of him before the window closesShootersHillGuru said:
Fairly obvious to me at least that Rob Apter was completely unsuited to what Jones requires of a player and to the style we played last season. I do question why he was scouted and signed unless we thought of him as a player for the future and not particularly for last season. Given our budget restraints I doubt that though. Undoubtedly there’s a talent there but my worry is that his loan at Bolton was nothing short of terrible. Fans thought he had no interest at all. I’d have thought he would have put in double the effort yet apparently not. Perhaps he can be rehabilitated and moulded by Jones but sadly thus far we’ve seen precious little signs of that.wmcf123 said:
It is interesting that Apter seems to have been written off by many. Had a poor game against Southampton - wasn’t alone , but has a lot of ability .RC_CAFC said:
I still haven’t written Rob Apter off to be fair. Think he’s a cracking little player who probably shouldn’t have signed for us last year but maybe this year we will suit his style of play more.Exiled_Addick said:
I think they were also hot on Rob Apter and Jack Payne, IIRC, so, while it's always nice to hear some counterbalance to the relentless miserabilism we sometimes read on here (especially from an actually well-informed source), I wouldn't write him on or off based on that assessment.RC_CAFC said:Good little section with the NTT20 boys (Ali Maxwell mostly) discussing the transfers of Fevrier, Alli and Lisbie on their pod this morning. About 30 mins in. Certainly be a good listen for any doubters of his signature as Maxwell is a fan of Alli’s.
Personally, I'm happy we are adding some pace and directness to our attacking options. Anytime TC came out of the side last year we were very one-paced and there were times when TC was clearly tired and other's where he wasn't quite at it, but he had to play because we were even worse without him. We need a midfielder or two who can feed those players the kind of passes that get them isolated with full backs and facing goal, but we absolutely needed more of those kinds of options. Even Fevrier didn't totally offer that as he was tricky, and no slouch, but wasn't out and out rapid.
Now, the options we've brought in may not all be the highest quality that we'd ideally like, but that's the reality of our budget and rebuilding years upon years of underinvestment that was also poorly spent and in a division below. If these guys help nudge us up to, say, 14th, at the end of the season, and we actually start looking like we might score more than 1 goal a game, then they will have been decent signings.
Even Jack Payne has forged an excellent career in league 2 just wasn’t able to make the step up to League one where his lack of physicality was punished in a way he can get away with in league 23 -
Stockley could only jump an inch off the ground.SteveACS said:
Just as an aside to this... Jack Payne scored more headed goals for us in one season than Jayden Stockley!RC_CAFC said:
I still haven’t written Rob Apter off to be fair. Think he’s a cracking little player who probably shouldn’t have signed for us last year but maybe this year we will suit his style of play more.Exiled_Addick said:
I think they were also hot on Rob Apter and Jack Payne, IIRC, so, while it's always nice to hear some counterbalance to the relentless miserabilism we sometimes read on here (especially from an actually well-informed source), I wouldn't write him on or off based on that assessment.RC_CAFC said:Good little section with the NTT20 boys (Ali Maxwell mostly) discussing the transfers of Fevrier, Alli and Lisbie on their pod this morning. About 30 mins in. Certainly be a good listen for any doubters of his signature as Maxwell is a fan of Alli’s.
Personally, I'm happy we are adding some pace and directness to our attacking options. Anytime TC came out of the side last year we were very one-paced and there were times when TC was clearly tired and other's where he wasn't quite at it, but he had to play because we were even worse without him. We need a midfielder or two who can feed those players the kind of passes that get them isolated with full backs and facing goal, but we absolutely needed more of those kinds of options. Even Fevrier didn't totally offer that as he was tricky, and no slouch, but wasn't out and out rapid.
Now, the options we've brought in may not all be the highest quality that we'd ideally like, but that's the reality of our budget and rebuilding years upon years of underinvestment that was also poorly spent and in a division below. If these guys help nudge us up to, say, 14th, at the end of the season, and we actually start looking like we might score more than 1 goal a game, then they will have been decent signings.
Even Jack Payne has forged an excellent career in league 2 just wasn’t able to make the step up to League one where his lack of physicality was punished in a way he can get away with in league 20 -
My young grandson excitedly told me about this kit, I thought he meant the new purple kit, but no the one he showed on his you tube, which he had seen on his fathers laptop, as they were looking at the new kits for his birthday present in a couple of week's. The 'You tube'ButtleJR said:Can find them on twitter. He's going to be in big shit 😂
clip may well have been taken down, but the screen grab remains on the web, as I down loaded it this morning. I can well understand the young player being excited, and proud to show the club new kit to his fan's but this is a poor communication practice by the club. Besides which I have a grandson, who like's this kit/shirt for his birthday, in a couple of weeks. It is a bit vague when this will be on sale, and mentions in the next few weeks?. I Have bought him a kit for his birthday most years, and yes he has a home shirt, and away shirt from last season. I do remember a time when the kit was previewed at Sparrows lane or the shop itself!.
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Someone on here may correct me but I'd imagine we'll be wearing the away kit saturday so hopefully released prior to then? If not could you get him a voucher for the shop that he can spend once the kits released?ken from bexley said:
My young grandson excitedly told me about this kit, I thought he meant the new purple kit, but no the one he showed on his you tube, which he had seen on his fathers laptop, as they were looking at the new kits for his birthday present in a couple of week's. The 'You tube'ButtleJR said:Can find them on twitter. He's going to be in big shit 😂
clip may well have been taken down, but the screen grab remains on the web, as I down loaded it this morning. I can well understand the young player being excited, and proud to show the club new kit to his fan's but this is a poor communication practice by the club. Besides which I have a grandson, who like's this kit/shirt for his birthday, in a couple of weeks. It is a bit vague when this will be on sale, and mentions in the next few weeks?. I Have bought him a kit for his birthday most years, and yes he has a home shirt, and away shirt from last season. I do remember a time when the kit was previewed at Sparrows lane or the shop itself!. 1 -
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Good idea, in the past we have gone to the shop, as he has been to the Valley with his sister, and we end up buying both of them a shirt during the summer holiday's. He is only 5 in a couple of weeks, but like his cousin, kids love there football shirts, I have carried on the tradition of buying them a shirt each year for there birthday, I did it for our sons, and my grandfather did it for me, although in the 'dark ages', you could could not buy a Charlton kit, but my grandfather a resourceful man got a man united junior shirt, and 'obtained a CAFC badge, which my grandmother sewed on and took in, being adept in those days!. I wore it to Sherrington school, at football, and in Charlton Park when I was about 8. I have enough trouble trying to persuade grandchildren to follow CAFC, as his cousin has his other grandparent buying him that mob at Palace, who he supports, being the deluded type!ButtleJR said:
Someone on here may correct me but I'd imagine we'll be wearing the away kit saturday so hopefully released prior to then? If not could you get him a voucher for the shop that he can spend once the kits released?ken from bexley said:
My young grandson excitedly told me about this kit, I thought he meant the new purple kit, but no the one he showed on his you tube, which he had seen on his fathers laptop, as they were looking at the new kits for his birthday present in a couple of week's. The 'You tube'ButtleJR said:Can find them on twitter. He's going to be in big shit 😂
clip may well have been taken down, but the screen grab remains on the web, as I down loaded it this morning. I can well understand the young player being excited, and proud to show the club new kit to his fan's but this is a poor communication practice by the club. Besides which I have a grandson, who like's this kit/shirt for his birthday, in a couple of weeks. It is a bit vague when this will be on sale, and mentions in the next few weeks?. I Have bought him a kit for his birthday most years, and yes he has a home shirt, and away shirt from last season. I do remember a time when the kit was previewed at Sparrows lane or the shop itself!.
But if all fails I will get him a voucher as you suggest!.0 -
https://clubshop.cafc.co.uk/products/e-gift-card, here's the link to buy one of required.ken from bexley said:
Good idea, in the past we have gone to the shop, as he has been to the Valley with his sister, and we end up buying both of them a shirt during the summer holiday's. He is only 5 in a couple of weeks, but like his cousin, kids love there football shirts, I have carried on the tradition of buying them a shirt each year for there birthday, I did it for our sons, and my grandfather did it for me, although in the 'dark ages', you could could not buy a Charlton kit, but my grandfather a resourceful man got a man united junior shirt, and 'obtained a CAFC badge, which my grandmother sewed on and took in, being adept in those days!. I wore it to Sherrington school, at football, and in Charlton Park when I was about 8. I have enough trouble trying to persuade grandchildren to follow CAFC, as his cousin has his other grandparent buying him that mob at Palace, who he supports, being the deluded type!ButtleJR said:
Someone on here may correct me but I'd imagine we'll be wearing the away kit saturday so hopefully released prior to then? If not could you get him a voucher for the shop that he can spend once the kits released?ken from bexley said:
My young grandson excitedly told me about this kit, I thought he meant the new purple kit, but no the one he showed on his you tube, which he had seen on his fathers laptop, as they were looking at the new kits for his birthday present in a couple of week's. The 'You tube'ButtleJR said:Can find them on twitter. He's going to be in big shit 😂
clip may well have been taken down, but the screen grab remains on the web, as I down loaded it this morning. I can well understand the young player being excited, and proud to show the club new kit to his fan's but this is a poor communication practice by the club. Besides which I have a grandson, who like's this kit/shirt for his birthday, in a couple of weeks. It is a bit vague when this will be on sale, and mentions in the next few weeks?. I Have bought him a kit for his birthday most years, and yes he has a home shirt, and away shirt from last season. I do remember a time when the kit was previewed at Sparrows lane or the shop itself!.
But if all fails I will get him a voucher as you suggest!.1 -
As I mentioned, In the past I used to take the photos of the new kit, this one was at 'Andrews'..... Couple of blokes here that were not to shoddy at the time!.......
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Legs have gone unfortunatelyken from bexley said:As I mentioned, In the past I used to take the photos of the new kit, this one was at 'Andrews'..... Couple of blokes here that were not to shoddy at the time!.......
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could we not use them these days?
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I was shocked today when he was left, so often, as the one trying to stop crosses and he just couldn’t handle it.2
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His debut was not great at all - he looked totally lost at sea.
His positional sense was off, he showed no aptitude for helping out defensively, he lost the ball in an incredibly dangerous area at a critical moment of the game, his passing was off generally and he didn’t beat a single man.Incredibly poor11 -
Came on and then we switched to 5 at the back.
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Thought he was fine, looked like he offered a threat. Obviously he’s not going to be much good at helping us defend a lead.Neither is TC on the other side, that’s why we had such a horrendous run with him and Macca nine months ago.3
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CBT had him on toast apart from one occasion when he tackled and won the ball then promptly passed across the edge of the box to another Derby player. Don’t understand why him and Mesik weren’t properly doubling up on CBT who got I think four dangerous crosses into the box in about 10 minutes.Early days but do think his strength is going forwards not defending a lead.3















