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Timothy Ouma signs on a season long loan

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  • jose
    jose Posts: 2,047
    edited October 15



    Harming cats is NOT FUNNY.
    This lovely creature was on my front wall yesterday.
  • jose
    jose Posts: 2,047
    edited October 15
    .sorry.
    mucking up the image post.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    Addicksi said:
    Doc was a limited footballer but gave everything he had, even playing on with a torn groin and helping us get over the line in the last couple of games in the previous season. To think he was released to be replaced by this character doesn't sit well with me. 
    Well its clear he wanst released purely for footballing reasons
    You're like a broken record mate, get over it 
    I am literally answering a post, dont be such a snowflake. If you do not wish to read my post, dont.

    Calm down Lyle.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    fenaddick said:
    Redhenry said:
    Hopefully we didn't sign him for a season loan. Anybody know if we can return him in Jan?
    It is a season long loan but these things usually have a break clause in January

    I wonder if a break clause was allowed to kick in on international breaks?!
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,160
    fenaddick said:
    Redhenry said:
    Hopefully we didn't sign him for a season loan. Anybody know if we can return him in Jan?
    It is a season long loan but these things usually have a break clause in January

    I wonder if a break clause was allowed to kick in on international breaks?!
    I'm 90% certain loan contracts are legally only allowed to be terminated in transfer windows, there are FIFA regulations about this stuff
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    fenaddick said:
    fenaddick said:
    Redhenry said:
    Hopefully we didn't sign him for a season loan. Anybody know if we can return him in Jan?
    It is a season long loan but these things usually have a break clause in January

    I wonder if a break clause was allowed to kick in on international breaks?!
    I'm 90% certain loan contracts are legally only allowed to be terminated in transfer windows, there are FIFA regulations about this stuff

    My 'poor' attempt at humour!
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 1,687
    edited October 15

    I think going AWOL would be considered a breach of contract surely.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,646
    edited October 15
    fenaddick said:
    Redhenry said:
    Hopefully we didn't sign him for a season loan. Anybody know if we can return him in Jan?
    It is a season long loan but these things usually have a break clause in January
    Yep, my question was, does anybody know for sure?
  • fenaddick said:
    Redhenry said:
    Hopefully we didn't sign him for a season loan. Anybody know if we can return him in Jan?
    It is a season long loan but these things usually have a break clause in January
    Whereas the player had a break in October with another one lined up for November
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 8,488
    Is he back in training with us?

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  • mart77
    mart77 Posts: 6,118
    Cawley’s piece today made it sound like we were about to release a statement relating to Ouma but we wanted to double check everything before confirming anything. I’d say we’ll get rid at the earliest opportunity.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 14,881
    Its complicated. In some versions of the universe he is at Sparrows Lane and in others he is in Kenya. The only way to check for sure is to look and the act of checking can influence the outcome. Ou Ma paradox, its quantum.

    Sadly in both types of universe 50% of the time he plays forward looking skilful passes and the other 50% he has a shocker and gives a goal away, Ouma's Certainty principle.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,160
    So what happens if it turns out he's had a valid reason to stay in Kenya and the club knew? Do we pretend the last few pages didn't happen?
  • jose
    jose Posts: 2,047
    Schrodinger's Ouma.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    fenaddick said:
    So what happens if it turns out he's had a valid reason to stay in Kenya and the club knew? Do we pretend the last few pages didn't happen?
    I hope that tongue in your cheek is not too uncomfortable.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 34,753
    fenaddick said:
    So what happens if it turns out he's had a valid reason to stay in Kenya and the club knew? Do we pretend the last few pages didn't happen?
    Well if that’s the case NJ could have just said that when questioned about Ouma’s absence last weekend. He wouldn’t have had to give a reason as to why. But he didn’t did he? The opposite in fact.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    fenaddick said:
    So what happens if it turns out he's had a valid reason to stay in Kenya and the club knew? Do we pretend the last few pages didn't happen?
    Well if that’s the case NJ could have just said that when questioned about Ouma’s absence last weekend. He wouldn’t have had to give a reason as to why. But he didn’t did he? The opposite in fact.

    I hope Jones reveals when he came back and that Ouma done wrong.  This will not happen of course.

  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 25,971
    fenaddick said:
    So what happens if it turns out he's had a valid reason to stay in Kenya and the club knew? Do we pretend the last few pages didn't happen?
    He’d still be shit one way or another . 
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 35,121
    Last Saturday I got told he wasn’t answering his phone when the club tried to make contact with him during the week to find out where he was .
    If the player is delayed for whatever reason the onus is on them to let the club know , whatever the situation.
    Stick him in the rather full up bucket of another wasted signing .
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 8,192
    Ou Ma Gawd

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  • gringo said:

    I think going AWOL would be considered a breach of contract surely.
    So as some know I work in the legal field mainly around cyber security and technology instead of employment law, however I can say with an almost 100% certainity being absent without notice or permission which causes the party to be unable to fulfill the required duties of a contract would be a breach of contract
  • jose
    jose Posts: 2,047
    Maybe Charlton Athletic had not issued Timothy Ouma with a club telephone.
    He might then have been stuck somewhere with a very slow and unreliable postal service, and his letter to the club is yet to arrive.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 31,523
    edited October 16
    Last Saturday I got told he wasn’t answering his phone when the club tried to make contact with him during the week to find out where he was .
    If the player is delayed for whatever reason the onus is on them to let the club know , whatever the situation.
    Stick him in the rather full up bucket of another wasted signing .
    Is this to say that last Saturday there had still been no contact from him?

    If so, an incredible piece of misconduct.
  • Crispywood
    Crispywood Posts: 3,048
    Even if we can’t sell him very least we slap him with a hefty fine so all he’s wasted really is a squad spot 
  • Addicksi
    Addicksi Posts: 441
    Make the prat dress up as Floyd or Harvey. 
  • gringo said:

    I think going AWOL would be considered a breach of contract surely.
    So as some know I work in the legal field mainly around cyber security and technology instead of employment law, however I can say with an almost 100% certainity being absent without notice or permission which causes the party to be unable to fulfill the required duties of a contract would be a breach of contract
    It will be a breach, whether it's a sufficiently serious breach to mean they can cancel the contract and not eg pay any of the money they would otherwise owe is a different question 
  • gringo said:

    I think going AWOL would be considered a breach of contract surely.
    So as some know I work in the legal field mainly around cyber security and technology instead of employment law, however I can say with an almost 100% certainity being absent without notice or permission which causes the party to be unable to fulfill the required duties of a contract would be a breach of contract
    It will be a breach, whether it's a sufficiently serious breach to mean they can cancel the contract and not eg pay any of the money they would otherwise owe is a different question 
    And on this, probably been said (pwr) but given it was a known issue it should have been dealt with specifically so that they could walk away if this happened - pretty shoddy if not
  • wmcf123 said:
    fenaddick said:
    The difficulty in any debate here is that we forced out Doc
    I don't think Doc was necessarily forced out by Ouma. Skipp was signed after the Chalobah injury, after Ouma was signed and before Doc was released. 
    He was 100% forced out
    He wasn’t good enough .  The fact that some of the others aren’t either doesn’t contradict that. 
    Exactly. It’s called the Charlton life affect,….. player isn’t good enough and needs to leave, he leaves and is remembered  as Ronaldo 

    the other side of the Charlton life affect coin

    weve signed the best player in the world, two months later - our recruitment is worse than oxfords! 
    "effect" 

    "Eugene's Axe"

  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 5,713
    wmcf123 said:
    fenaddick said:
    The difficulty in any debate here is that we forced out Doc
    I don't think Doc was necessarily forced out by Ouma. Skipp was signed after the Chalobah injury, after Ouma was signed and before Doc was released. 
    He was 100% forced out
    He wasn’t good enough .  The fact that some of the others aren’t either doesn’t contradict that. 
    Exactly. It’s called the Charlton life affect,….. player isn’t good enough and needs to leave, he leaves and is remembered  as Ronaldo 

    the other side of the Charlton life affect coin

    weve signed the best player in the world, two months later - our recruitment is worse than oxfords! 
    "effect" 

    "Eugene's Axe"


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