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  • DubaiCAFC said:
    In fact, can anyone name anything positive that has happened since Carter been in charge?
    From all I can see is negitive.
    CEO Failure 
    Mr Q Sponsorship cost the club a lot.
    Commercial Falling apart
    Fanzone is terrible now
    Getting ride of local businesses and suppliers.
    Team Failing on the pitch.
    Good job Carter! 

    It's a positive that he hasn't drunk the bar dry with a group of his posh mates after games.
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,584
    Carter and Rodwell being crap doesn't mean Charlie boy was good. He was a liar and parasite. We're better off without him and his little mates involved. Have people forgotten how shit we were during the Mickey Apples days FFS?
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 20,112
    Sorry,just flicking through this.

    The Carter /Charlton link was all bollox???
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,493
    Sorry,just flicking through this.

    The Carter /Charlton link was all bollox???
    I don't think anyone knows for sure. No one recognises him. Equally, no one would recognise me if I somehow owned Charlton in 30 years because I go to games alone
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 102,171
    fenaddick said:
    Sorry,just flicking through this.

    The Carter /Charlton link was all bollox???
    I don't think anyone knows for sure. No one recognises him. Equally, no one would recognise me if I somehow owned Charlton in 30 years because I go to games alone
    Wait... I go to games on my own!!
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,093
    ct_addick said:
    Gavin Carter was ChicagoAddick on here ? If so was posting for years 
    That definitely isn't true!
  • ProperCharlton
    ProperCharlton Posts: 2,584
    fenaddick said:
    Sorry,just flicking through this.

    The Carter /Charlton link was all bollox???
    I don't think anyone knows for sure. No one recognises him. Equally, no one would recognise me if I somehow owned Charlton in 30 years because I go to games alone
    Wait... I go to games on my own!!
    So do I! Maybe us three should go together? Actually, I prefer my own company so forget that idea. Sorry!
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 102,171
    fenaddick said:
    Sorry,just flicking through this.

    The Carter /Charlton link was all bollox???
    I don't think anyone knows for sure. No one recognises him. Equally, no one would recognise me if I somehow owned Charlton in 30 years because I go to games alone
    Wait... I go to games on my own!!
    So do I! Maybe us three should go together? Actually, I prefer my own company so forget that idea. Sorry!
    Wait... You mean I'd actually have to go outside and interact with people, yeaaa f**k that idea
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 29,171
    ct_addick said:
    Gavin Carter was ChicagoAddick on here ? If so was posting for years 
    That definitely isn't true!
    It’s not true. Carter is actually New York Addick. 
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 2,223
    Croydon said:
    fenaddick said:
    They can just f**k right off now!!
    Three years of hard work all undone in the summer because they dont want to play with their toy anymore
    Aren't we expected to lose £25M this year?  Seems a lot of money for a group who "don't want to play with their toy any more".
    We just lost to a Bolton team who have spent massively less than us over the last 2 years. We have no injuries.  This is on Jones and Chapple.
    Whoopdie-Doo... Did they suddenly realise that you don't get rich from owning a Football Club?
    They should have realised that losses of £25m was always going to be likely... Don't like it... Don't get involved
    How is this on Jones / Chapple when we spent £15m (likely TV money) last summer on trying to get the squad up to scratch for life at this level, and by doing so having to gamble on League One talent, which hasn't worked... and then they've had to do it again this summer (when it barely worked last time) on about £2-3m... You really think that is enough investment to compete at this level?
    The owners want out, they've seen Jones manage it without little of their investment again, and expect him to work miracles a second time, even a third time if you take into account that the team that got promoted from League One had absolutely no business achieving that.
    We've lost to a Bolton team tonight that was US last season, that were Oxford the year before... Once teams work them out, they'll be struggling to stay above the dotted line between now and next May, and will probably copy what we're doing this year, what Oxford did last year come May 2028 if they survive

    Bolton spent about £2.5M this summer.  They are not "us" from last year. Get a grip.
    Carter could learn a lesson from Bolton in building sustainably. They got promoted with a top end L1 squad and are capitalising on the momentum while keeping back some money to spend if needed. We got promoted with a mid table L1 side and have had to attempt to overhaul it three times since promotion now
    Carter needs to go back to doing what he does well which is giving insights on semiconductors. You cant become a senior sports leader in 12 months - some of the decisions that have been made in the last 12 months absolutely beggar belief.
    Something has never sat quite right with me about Carter from the off. Complete charlatan.
    He's a totally clueless, waffling. brown noser.

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  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 2,223
    DubaiCAFC said:
    In fact, can anyone name anything positive that has happened since Carter been in charge?
    From all I can see is negitive.
    CEO Failure 
    Mr Q Sponsorship cost the club a lot.
    Commercial Falling apart
    Fanzone is terrible now
    Getting ride of local businesses and suppliers.
    Team Failing on the pitch.
    Good job Carter! 

    It's a positive that he hasn't drunk the bar dry with a group of his posh mates after games.
    They couldn't do it, that's why.
  • Cafc451
    Cafc451 Posts: 399
    These owners wont last long.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,493
    edited November 4
    Cafc451 said:
    These owners wont last long.
    They will but they don't want to
  • Sat behind the Directors last night and it was telling to see them all stand, wait and watch the reception that the players got from the Covered End before leaving their seats. The new CEO and Carter were in deep conversation throughout the game, I hope they saw what the rest of us witnessed and have the mettle to make some changes.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,493
    Think NJ's comments in the Cawley article just posted show that he was expecting/hoping for more money to be available in the summer
  • Cafc451
    Cafc451 Posts: 399
    They should be on the phone to carter and rodwell.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,326
    fenaddick said:
    Think NJ's comments in the Cawley article just posted show that he was expecting/hoping for more money to be available in the summer
    Think those are incredibly telling comments from NJ. Suspect he was initially promised a lot more and it then all fell apart. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 102,171
    Sat behind the Directors last night and it was telling to see them all stand, wait and watch the reception that the players got from the Covered End before leaving their seats. The new CEO and Carter were in deep conversation throughout the game, I hope they saw what the rest of us witnessed and have the mettle to make some changes.
    Provided Jones is telling the truth I'm most worried that there have been zero conversations with the owners.
    Maybe they still want to back him, or they've got doubts about his form - But I'm getting memories of CARD showing up outside the Restaurant whilst Roland was eating lunch, when he claimed to watch every game on stream - But given our form, you'd hope that there was some sort of communication between Management and those above him.
  • Sword65pf
    Sword65pf Posts: 3,238
    edited November 4
    fenaddick said:
    Think NJ's comments in the Cawley article just posted show that he was expecting/hoping for more money to be available in the summer
    I’ve been saying this since the summer, it’s been so obvious. Now they are stuck with a club in free fall because they will never get the money they want for it, the same as the rat with the stadium and sparrows lane, and we all thought times were better!! FFS!!!😤 just to add like I’ve said previously, I be pretty sure NJ was told he was getting backed a lot more than he did, and the rug was pulled from beneath him.
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,659
    bobmunro said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    Absolutely deserve a big chunk of the blame. Something about Rodwell has annoyed me from his first ever interview , does come across as someone that thinks he's a know-it-all. 

    I just can't see how they manage to sell the club if the frankly ridiculous valuation that's been mentioned on here is true. 

    He knows fuck all - and I have that on good authority.
    Pity he won,t sit in a room and talk with charlton supporters face to face.    

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  • CafcSteve
    CafcSteve Posts: 1,293
    Lots of people said on here that Jones stormed out of a meeting over budgets in The Summer.

    Sounding like it could have been accurate.
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,659
    Sat behind the Directors last night and it was telling to see them all stand, wait and watch the reception that the players got from the Covered End before leaving their seats. The new CEO and Carter were in deep conversation throughout the game, I hope they saw what the rest of us witnessed and have the mettle to make some changes.
    Provided Jones is telling the truth I'm most worried that there have been zero conversations with the owners.
    Maybe they still want to back him, or they've got doubts about his form - But I'm getting memories of CARD showing up outside the Restaurant whilst Roland was eating lunch, when he claimed to watch every game on stream - But given our form, you'd hope that there was some sort of communication between Management and those above him.
    Sat behind the Directors last night and it was telling to see them all stand, wait and watch the reception that the players got from the Covered End before leaving their seats. The new CEO and Carter were in deep conversation throughout the game, I hope they saw what the rest of us witnessed and have the mettle to make some changes.
    Provided Jones is telling the truth I'm most worried that there have been zero conversations with the owners.
    Maybe they still want to back him, or they've got doubts about his form - But I'm getting memories of CARD showing up outside the Restaurant whilst Roland was eating lunch, when he claimed to watch every game on stream - But given our form, you'd hope that there was some sort of communication between Management and those above him.
    That had nothing to do with CARD ,it was The Belgium 20.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 5,130
    edited November 4
    Tbh I haven't been impressed with Jim,Charlie,Gavin and/or Ben...I'd be more impressed if the major shareholder sat next to them and spoke about a "5 year plan"..the latter is definitely screwed. 

    We are back to being an upper mid league 1 team with seemingly little direction and little ambition. When Jones goes ( Probably after the Sheffield United game) I expect we will be lumbered with another journeyman manager who is just killing time.

    It's all a great shame 🫠 😕 
  • lolwray said:
    Tbh I haven't been impressed with Jim,Charlie,Gavin and/or Ben...I'd be more impressed if the major shareholder sat next to them and spoke about a "5 year plan"..the latter is definitely screwed. 

    We are back to being an upper mid league team with seemingly little direction and little ambition. When Jones goes ( Probably after the Sheffield United game) I expect we will be lumbered with another journeyman manager who is just killing time.

    It's all a great shame 🫠 😕 
    This is my big worry as well. If they couldn't be bothered to invest in the squad, they are not going to invest in a 'decent' manager.

    Feels very much like we are slipping back into the dark league one days again. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,326
    lolwray said:
    Tbh I haven't been impressed with Jim,Charlie,Gavin and/or Ben...I'd be more impressed if the major shareholder sat next to them and spoke about a "5 year plan"..the latter is definitely screwed. 

    We are back to being an upper mid league team with seemingly little direction and little ambition. When Jones goes ( Probably after the Sheffield United game) I expect we will be lumbered with another journeyman manager who is just killing time.

    It's all a great shame 🫠 😕 
    This is my big worry as well. If they couldn't be bothered to invest in the squad, they are not going to invest in a 'decent' manager.

    Feels very much like we are slipping back into the dark league one days again. 
    Think this is my biggest fear , disinterested ownership that don't want to invest but can't sell the club for what they want for it and another carousel of journeyman managers that we're just another job for. 

    I don't want another 3-5 years in League 1..... 
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 15,343
    As much as the budgets were slashed - I was told bgy someone I trust the JRS deal was done and dusted - including the photo shoot.  I'm not sure why or when it went pear shaped but it did so there was that money made available apparently
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 22,228
    MarcusH26 said:
    lolwray said:
    Tbh I haven't been impressed with Jim,Charlie,Gavin and/or Ben...I'd be more impressed if the major shareholder sat next to them and spoke about a "5 year plan"..the latter is definitely screwed. 

    We are back to being an upper mid league team with seemingly little direction and little ambition. When Jones goes ( Probably after the Sheffield United game) I expect we will be lumbered with another journeyman manager who is just killing time.

    It's all a great shame 🫠 😕 
    This is my big worry as well. If they couldn't be bothered to invest in the squad, they are not going to invest in a 'decent' manager.

    Feels very much like we are slipping back into the dark league one days again. 
    Think this is my biggest fear , disinterested ownership that don't want to invest but can't sell the club for what they want for it and another carousel of journeyman managers that we're just another job for. 

    I don't want another 3-5 years in League 1..... 

    They either invest (relatively heavily) in the squad in January, stay up, and hope new found stability attracts a buyer where they get some/most of their money back - or we go down and they end up having to sell the club for £1 to stop their losses getting ever larger.

    Seems to be our modus operandi - rinse and repeat.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 24,493
    Swisdom said:
    As much as the budgets were slashed - I was told bgy someone I trust the JRS deal was done and dusted - including the photo shoot.  I'm not sure why or when it went pear shaped but it did so there was that money made available apparently
    But it's then negligent to not spend it elsewhere. There's no way we spent all of it on Skipp and Nkeng
  • bobmunro said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    lolwray said:
    Tbh I haven't been impressed with Jim,Charlie,Gavin and/or Ben...I'd be more impressed if the major shareholder sat next to them and spoke about a "5 year plan"..the latter is definitely screwed. 

    We are back to being an upper mid league team with seemingly little direction and little ambition. When Jones goes ( Probably after the Sheffield United game) I expect we will be lumbered with another journeyman manager who is just killing time.

    It's all a great shame 🫠 😕 
    This is my big worry as well. If they couldn't be bothered to invest in the squad, they are not going to invest in a 'decent' manager.

    Feels very much like we are slipping back into the dark league one days again. 
    Think this is my biggest fear , disinterested ownership that don't want to invest but can't sell the club for what they want for it and another carousel of journeyman managers that we're just another job for. 

    I don't want another 3-5 years in League 1..... 

    They either invest (relatively heavily) in the squad in January, stay up, and hope new found stability attracts a buyer where they get some/most of their money back - or we go down and they end up having to sell the club for £1 to stop their losses getting ever larger.

    Seems to be our modus operandi - rinse and repeat.

    Until we have the ground and training ground back, this is going to be the only outcome.

    For any normal ownership group, not having an asset to work with and leverage makes a massive difference financially, even when inviting new investors.

    Coventry managed to untangle that web, I hope we can do the same at some point.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 11,326
    bobmunro said:
    MarcusH26 said:
    lolwray said:
    Tbh I haven't been impressed with Jim,Charlie,Gavin and/or Ben...I'd be more impressed if the major shareholder sat next to them and spoke about a "5 year plan"..the latter is definitely screwed. 

    We are back to being an upper mid league team with seemingly little direction and little ambition. When Jones goes ( Probably after the Sheffield United game) I expect we will be lumbered with another journeyman manager who is just killing time.

    It's all a great shame 🫠 😕 
    This is my big worry as well. If they couldn't be bothered to invest in the squad, they are not going to invest in a 'decent' manager.

    Feels very much like we are slipping back into the dark league one days again. 
    Think this is my biggest fear , disinterested ownership that don't want to invest but can't sell the club for what they want for it and another carousel of journeyman managers that we're just another job for. 

    I don't want another 3-5 years in League 1..... 

    They either invest (relatively heavily) in the squad in January, stay up, and hope new found stability attracts a buyer where they get some/most of their money back - or we go down and they end up having to sell the club for £1 to stop their losses getting ever larger.

    Seems to be our modus operandi - rinse and repeat.
    Absolutely agree it just seems to be this never ending cycle. I just want to be a boring midtable Championship club for a few years that doesn't bounce between the middle of League 1 stumbling upon a manager that gets us promoted and then not sticking the landing on being able to stay in the Championship for 3-4 seasons and build something.