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Derby vs Charlton match thread

stonemuse
stonemuse Posts: 34,198
edited April 2009 in General Charlton
From Skysports

Derby may face a defensive headache as they aim for the win that would guarantee their Championship survival at home to doomed Charlton.

Centre-half Andy Todd was forced off with a tight hamstring in the final 10 minutes of the midweek home defeat to Reading.

And with Jordan Stewart still out, while Dean Leacock and Jay McEveley are sidelined until the summer, manager Nigel Clough will be eager for Todd to recover in time.

Top scorer Rob Hulse also came off against Reading after sustaining a cut to his head but the 17-goal striker is expected to play.

The Rams are five points clear of third-bottom Norwich with two games remaining while Charlton's fate has already been sealed.

Stranded
The Addicks will finish stranded at the bottom of the Championship, unless Southampton climb out of the bottom three and their 10-point deduction for going into administration is activated.

Midfielder Darren Ambrose (thigh) remains an injury doubt after missing the last two games and is unlikely to return at Pride Park.

Teenage playmaker Jonjo Shelvey has scored in the last two outings and although he came off late in Tuesday's 2-2 draw with Cardiff with a sore shoulder, he is expected to remain in the starting line-up.

Tresor Kandol returned off the bench in midweek following an illness and could start up front in place of Deon Burton.

Defender Jonathan Fortune (Achilles), midfielder Jose Semedo (ankle) and striker Andy Gray (pelvis) are still sidelined.
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  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    Chris Solly in the squad
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    Haven't yet found today's team - if anyone does, please post it.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    Derby win 4/7
    Draw 11/4
    Charlton win 4/1
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,685
    Teams on the Derby site-

    http://www.dcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/MatchDetails/0,,10270~1638966,00.html

    Same as last Tuesday, bench of Randolph, Solly, Spring, Wagstaff and Kandol.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,685
    edited April 2009
    Somethings wrong there, apparently Varney is starting for them? Or did he go back there?

    Edit: Just checked, they brought him back from his loan, straight into the team.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]Teams on the Derby site-

    http://www.dcfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/MatchDetails/0,,10270~1638966,00.html

    Same as last Tuesday, bench of Randolph, Solly, Spring, Wagstaff and Kandol.

    No real surprise
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    Mmmm, so will Varney score, just to rub it in lol
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    CAFC TV coverage now on
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    ... and now off again lol
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,989
    [cite]Posted By: Scoham[/cite]Somethings wrong there, apparently Varney is starting for them? Or did he go back there?

    Edit: Just checked, they brought him back from his loan, straight into the team.

    Varns scored twice for Sheff Wed last week, but that was the final match of his loan starting in January (max 93 days).

    So League rules mean he couldn't have played for Sheff W, even if he and they wanted him too.
    And scoring 2 goals in his last match, means he's a form striker ..... so Derby naturally put him straight into the team.

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  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    cheers Oggy, didn't know that
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,685
    OS says Varney is starting on the right.
  • Solaraddick
    Solaraddick Posts: 460
    So STILL he plays Butterfeet, and now Tuna doesn't even make the bench, deposed by the has-been Burton and the never-was Kandol....
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,989
    Just in case people haven't seen the line up already:

    Varney is a familiar face in the home line-up, and will start on the right hand side,'

    Charlton: Elliot; Butterfield, Youga, Hudson, Ward; Sam, Racon, Zheng, Shelvey, Bailey; Burton.
    Subs: Randolph, Solly, Spring, Wagstaff, Kandol.

    Derby: Bywater; Connolly, Stewart, Nyatanga, Albrechsten; Varney, Savage, Bannon, Teale; Commons, Hulse.
    Subs: Carroll, Eustace, Sterjovski, Pearson, Villa.

    Referee: F Graham
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,989
    [cite]Posted By: Solaraddick[/cite]So STILL he plays Butterfeet, and now Tuna doesn't even make the bench, deposed by the has-been Burton and the never-was Kandol....

    Parky complimented Tuna's progress and performance against Blackpool, but said he's not quite there yet but definitely got the potential. The last 2 games were a taster to ecourage him (or words to that effect).

    Also look at the bench:
    He's got Randolph, Solly and Waggy there, that's not much experience - so to add Tuna, might be a bit reckless.

    Perfectly understand ensuring he's got a bit of experience and maturity in Spring and Kandol.
    All about balance, I suppose.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,685
    [cite]Posted By: Solaraddick[/cite]So STILL he plays Butterfeet, and now Tuna doesn't even make the bench, deposed by the has-been Burton and the never-was Kandol....

    Not really a surprise though, hopefully Solly comes on and gets to start against Norwich. Could have had Tuna in place of Wagstaff, but he's said Wagstaff has also played well recently.

    I think he doesn't want more than a couple of youngsters on the bench in case any one gets injured. If Burton gets injured early on it would be a lot to ask of Tuna to play up front on his own for most of the match.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    chriisy powell on thepitch to give yng player trophy
  • kakaka
    kakaka Posts: 158
    thats right lets get the balance right and play the loans, out of contract players and has beens isnstead of giving some our youngsters a bit of encouragement in an absolutly nothing game!

    and before anyone jumps down my throat and says it means something to derby then i say i dont give a toss about where derby are in the league but i do care about players that belong to us and our yoof and the poor management of them.

    Perfectly understand ensuring he's got a bit of experience and maturity in Spring and Kandol.
    All about balance, I suppose.[/quote]
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Why not be more adventurous and experimental for this game? Why Butterfield, Ward, ZZ and Burton...surely they are obvious players to move aside for others (preferably youth) for this particular game. All right the Norwich game means we have to respect the division...but this game?
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    VFR sounds quite loud already

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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    the woman from tuesday is commentating, vfr loud and clear
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    yup, pity it had to be her again!
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    don't know how many charlton are there but they sound pretty up and cheerful, Derby singing too
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    they sound very cheerful .... or very lubricated ;
  • come on you reds
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,685
    edited April 2009
    [cite]Posted By: seth plum[/cite]Why not be more adventurous and experimental for this game? Why Butterfield, Ward, ZZ and Burton...surely they are obvious players to move aside for others (preferably youth) for this particular game. All right the Norwich game means we have to respect the division...but this game?

    I know what you mean, but to be fair there's no one who can come in for Ward, not even out of the youth players, none of them are ready yet. Up front Burton is more likely to be here next season than Kandol, Dickson and Tuna can't play up front on their own and we're not going to see them start together. Then there's Todorov who's clearly going anyway.

    That said I'd have liked to have seen Solly involved a few games ago for Butterfield, and Arter on the bench and give him a few run outs. If he did well he could have then started a game.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,331
    Come on charlton
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    Come on Charlton, on the attack
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,198
    not many online today, most of CL regulars are up there
  • eastbourne_addick
    eastbourne_addick Posts: 911
    edited April 2009
    [cite]Posted By: stonemuse[/cite]not many online today, most of CL regulars are up there

    Been like it on here a lot recently.Was actually quite dissapointed you hadnt gone up!