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  • Yes, but a match is a live product/experience, like the theatre. If cinema did promotions like two adults - kid is free - we'd go more often to those sort of not too fussed movies e.g.- life of Pi - The Impossible and cinemas would ultimately make more money.

    Maybe they should make a film half price after it has been on for two weeks. If they double the attendance they make money with the additional sales etc...
  • For your information, unless you are a STUDIO (Warner Bros, Universal etc), then if a cinema charges you £10 for a ticket, you take the VAT off (£1.33) and of the £8.66 net, the cinema keeps up to 75% of the monies!!!!! They then take about 2 months to pay you your share - even though they've had the money immediately!

    Sorry for ruining anybody's illusions, but a STUDIO MAY get 50% for the first week of a film, but after week 1 it will drop to maybe as low as 35%! The cinema makes the majority of the money and they set the ticket admission prices too!
  • I've signed up to Showcase's unlimited cinema entry for £14.99 per month so this week I have seen.....

    Life of Pi 3D, which was good but not as good as the book. Still good though.
    The Impossible, which was brilliant. I highly recommend this. It had me interested from start to finish.
    Django, also excellent. May even be my favourite Tarantino film yet.
  • supaclive said:

    For your information, unless you are a STUDIO (Warner Bros, Universal etc), then if a cinema charges you £10 for a ticket, you take the VAT off (£1.33) and of the £8.66 net, the cinema keeps up to 75% of the monies!!!!! They then take about 2 months to pay you your share - even though they've had the money immediately!

    Sorry for ruining anybody's illusions, but a STUDIO MAY get 50% for the first week of a film, but after week 1 it will drop to maybe as low as 35%! The cinema makes the majority of the money and they set the ticket admission prices too!

    Ahh...what do you know though about the film industry though...

    :-)
  • supaclive said:

    For your information, unless you are a STUDIO (Warner Bros, Universal etc), then if a cinema charges you £10 for a ticket, you take the VAT off (£1.33) and of the £8.66 net, the cinema keeps up to 75% of the monies!!!!! They then take about 2 months to pay you your share - even though they've had the money immediately!

    Sorry for ruining anybody's illusions, but a STUDIO MAY get 50% for the first week of a film, but after week 1 it will drop to maybe as low as 35%! The cinema makes the majority of the money and they set the ticket admission prices too!

    Ahh...what do you know though about the film industry though...

    :-)
    NOTHING it would seem

    :-)
  • buckshee said:

    Rob said:

    Saw Django Unchained today. Very good and thought provoking in parts. One scene with the forerunners of the KKK was brilliant. Classic Tarantino.

    More like classic blazing saddles.
    Spot on. In a way the whole film reminded me of Blazing Saddles.
  • supaclive said:

    For your information, unless you are a STUDIO (Warner Bros, Universal etc), then if a cinema charges you £10 for a ticket, you take the VAT off (£1.33) and of the £8.66 net, the cinema keeps up to 75% of the monies!!!!! They then take about 2 months to pay you your share - even though they've had the money immediately!

    Sorry for ruining anybody's illusions, but a STUDIO MAY get 50% for the first week of a film, but after week 1 it will drop to maybe as low as 35%! The cinema makes the majority of the money and they set the ticket admission prices too!

    Supaclive...I run/own some cinemas...this isn't really the case. On average, the studios take c.45+% of the net. Indies c.35-40%. Shouldn't take 2 months to pay either if invoices are on time. I do agree though that cinemas need to work harder on the customer experience and being part of the community and that's something we really focus on.

  • kafka said:

    supaclive said:

    For your information, unless you are a STUDIO (Warner Bros, Universal etc), then if a cinema charges you £10 for a ticket, you take the VAT off (£1.33) and of the £8.66 net, the cinema keeps up to 75% of the monies!!!!! They then take about 2 months to pay you your share - even though they've had the money immediately!

    Sorry for ruining anybody's illusions, but a STUDIO MAY get 50% for the first week of a film, but after week 1 it will drop to maybe as low as 35%! The cinema makes the majority of the money and they set the ticket admission prices too!

    Supaclive...I run/own some cinemas...this isn't really the case. On average, the studios take c.45+% of the net. Indies c.35-40%. Shouldn't take 2 months to pay either if invoices are on time. I do agree though that cinemas need to work harder on the customer experience and being part of the community and that's something we really focus on.

    We are the 19th biggest distributor in the UK and I've never had more than 25% of Net Box....
  • Amour is brilliant. Very very tough subject, quietly done and understated, wonderfully acted. Spoiler alert - there are no car chases or wizards!
  • Watched Argo last night . They got the 1980 look off to a tee. The film was good too but probably not good enough to win an Oscar.

    Saw it last year, agree they got the look and feel right...thought provokingin a small way but as I already knew the outcome found it a bit too predictable.
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  • kafka said:

    supaclive said:

    For your information, unless you are a STUDIO (Warner Bros, Universal etc), then if a cinema charges you £10 for a ticket, you take the VAT off (£1.33) and of the £8.66 net, the cinema keeps up to 75% of the monies!!!!! They then take about 2 months to pay you your share - even though they've had the money immediately!

    Sorry for ruining anybody's illusions, but a STUDIO MAY get 50% for the first week of a film, but after week 1 it will drop to maybe as low as 35%! The cinema makes the majority of the money and they set the ticket admission prices too!

    Supaclive...I run/own some cinemas...this isn't really the case. On average, the studios take c.45+% of the net. Indies c.35-40%. Shouldn't take 2 months to pay either if invoices are on time. I do agree though that cinemas need to work harder on the customer experience and being part of the community and that's something we really focus on.

    Small chain over here called United......brilliant...how all cinemas should be set up. The owner albeit a bit of a laughing stock(due to his ornate and superbly coiffed wig) is friendly and remembers the punters. The staff are young but very friendly and helpful. The cinemas are spotless and he decorates them very well with all the latest and upcoming film paraphenalia...the stand he had for the Hobbit was amazing in itself. They email you every week with showtimes. They have a brilliant games room, and a lovely cheap restaurant where you can order food and take it in....also amazing reclining armchairs.

  • supaclive said:

    kafka said:

    supaclive said:

    For your information, unless you are a STUDIO (Warner Bros, Universal etc), then if a cinema charges you £10 for a ticket, you take the VAT off (£1.33) and of the £8.66 net, the cinema keeps up to 75% of the monies!!!!! They then take about 2 months to pay you your share - even though they've had the money immediately!

    Sorry for ruining anybody's illusions, but a STUDIO MAY get 50% for the first week of a film, but after week 1 it will drop to maybe as low as 35%! The cinema makes the majority of the money and they set the ticket admission prices too!

    Supaclive...I run/own some cinemas...this isn't really the case. On average, the studios take c.45+% of the net. Indies c.35-40%. Shouldn't take 2 months to pay either if invoices are on time. I do agree though that cinemas need to work harder on the customer experience and being part of the community and that's something we really focus on.

    We are the 19th biggest distributor in the UK and I've never had more than 25% of Net Box....
    Supply and demand. If you had the films you would charge more. All the big studios charge 60% 1st week (when 75% of the box office is taken on most films)
  • It's based on the amount of people that actually come to the cinema Kafka - not what we can charge - surely, seeing as you have cinemas you know this?... the NUT rate...
  • Saw Jack Reacher last night....enjoyed it despite a couple of cringy Tom Cruise moments.
  • supaclive said:

    It's based on the amount of people that actually come to the cinema Kafka - not what we can charge - surely, seeing as you have cinemas you know this?... the NUT rate...

    i know all about the NUT. As an indie owner, I only get the option of weekly %'s. Our film hire for 2012 was 49% in total. Studios are well over 50%, pushed down by the indie distribs which usually work on 35% FH. Odeon etc will ave out at around 39% on the NUT.

  • TEL said:

    you can order food and take it in...

    It sounded amazing until you said that! Cooked food in cinemas.. just the thought of it starts to wind me up!

    I'm very fortunate that I don't have to attend many public screenings, but if I do, I hate it. I don't understand how people put up with the cacophony of noise as punters munch on overpriced bags of sugar. I don't even get why people buy stuff inside the cinema when it's a tenth of the price in the dozen shops they passed on the way there. You don't get your bags searched, so why buy anything in there and then complain about the price??!

    As someone said early on, unless cinema chains figure out that home entertainment is offering an excellent alternative, particularly with On Demand windows down to three months, they're going to be in trouble unless they offer something that you can't get at home (for a reasonable price). There have been a few day-and-date movies on demand and cinema on the same day. It's only a matter of time before that becomes standard.

    For me, the only reason to venture into a public screening is IMAX. Otherwise, I'm happy with Sky Store/ Movies and my TV!
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    TEL said:

    you can order food and take it in...

    It sounded amazing until you said that! Cooked food in cinemas.. just the thought of it starts to wind me up!

    I'm very fortunate that I don't have to attend many public screenings, but if I do, I hate it. I don't understand how people put up with the cacophony of noise as punters munch on overpriced bags of sugar. I don't even get why people buy stuff inside the cinema when it's a tenth of the price in the dozen shops they passed on the way there. You don't get your bags searched, so why buy anything in there and then complain about the price??!

    As someone said early on, unless cinema chains figure out that home entertainment is offering an excellent alternative, particularly with On Demand windows down to three months, they're going to be in trouble unless they offer something that you can't get at home (for a reasonable price). There have been a few day-and-date movies on demand and cinema on the same day. It's only a matter of time before that becomes standard.

    For me, the only reason to venture into a public screening is IMAX. Otherwise, I'm happy with Sky Store/ Movies and my TV!
    Ah but you should try their cheese platter!

    They sell their food at a reasonable price to be fair....midway between a Macca and the local Hog's Breathe with special offers on certain nights. The coffee is nice too, and dont start me on the Choc tops!
  • Actually reading on, I have to say that I actually enjoy going out to the cinema and seeing films on the big screen, we go 2 to 3 times a month on average. The only downfall is that their seems to be a tendency for the "yoof" back home and also here to a certain extent who seem intent on getting their entertainment for the night by simply spoiling things for the other punters. More than once, Ive had to have a quiet word in their shell likes. One particular instance was amazing as a couple of entirely different families tried to shout me down, telling me that it was ok for their kids to have extended loud conversations during the film. They didnt have too much to say when it came to exit the auditorium, it seems that shouting out in the dark though was perfectly acceptable.
  • Very impressed with Zero Dark Thirty . Despite knowing the outcome it's still extremely nail biting stuff.
    Katherine Bigalow is a very impressive director .
  • This new film 'Movie 43' has a huge cast but apparently they arent allowing critics to preview it as its that bad.
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  • The Last Stand a ok film.
  • Had to sit through Movie 43 yesterday. The single worst film I have ever, ever seen. It's not even a film. It's a collection of short jokes that have no punch lines. It's like a dare by a Hollywood executive to see how much money they can take for the worst movie they could possibly make.

    I urge anybody considering paying to see it to walk away. It's an insult.
  • Saw Lincoln. Day Lewis is immense in it.
  • Watched Zero Dark Thirty- Film is superb.
  • Just watched French drama/comedy The Intouchables.
    Absolutely loved it. Highly recommended feel good film. Actually, just a highly recommended film!
  • If you like Tarantino, Django is a must. Great acting (except the Tarantino cameo) and great dialogue.
  • hot off the press..Argo wins BAFTA best film. Worthy; it's excellent.
  • ljm29 said:

    I've signed up to Showcase's unlimited cinema entry for £14.99 per month so this week I have seen.....

    Life of Pi 3D, which was good but not as good as the book. Still good though.
    The Impossible, which was brilliant. I highly recommend this. It had me interested from start to finish.
    Django, also excellent. May even be my favourite Tarantino film yet.

    Keep hoping Odeon will start that - Cineworld Ashford a bit far from Canterbury to make it worth repeat visits.
  • kafka said:

    If you like Tarantino, Django is a must. Great acting (except the Tarantino cameo) and great dialogue.

    I went on Saturday. Never a dull moment. Even her-in-doors loved it.

  • edited February 2013
    ^^^ Now, I admit I'm a big spaghetti Western fan and collector (there, I said it), so loved the in-joke with Franco Nero, who, of course, played the original Django. Also liked that Tarantino used the original Django opening credits music. Christoph Waltz was brilliant. Worthy winner of a BAFTA last night and maybe another Oscar on the cards.
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