If he feel a few feet or looked fine I would've be joining in with most of the chants and found it funnier than homophobic chanting, but at that height and head first with no movement I would be concerned. No moral high ground, just the truth. A lot of millwall fans (the ones who don't stand by the away end) seemed to be concerned as well.
[cite]Posted By: Sparrows Lane Lion[/cite]The self righteous outcry from some on here is laughable. That adults can take to heart a few words is extraordinary. That men who go to football regularly are unable to distinguish between football banter/abuse and everyday abuse/bullying is shocking.
If I was leaning over the front of the Jimmy Seed stand, arms outstretched, calling you lot wankers, acting a tit & I toppled and went head first into the steps & laid in an embarrassed crumpled bloody heap on the side of the Valley pitch I'd expect my own mates to laugh let alone the whole of the Valley to start singing songs like "she fell over", "let him die" etc etc while being pointed at & laughed at.
But at the same time my mates, and the vast majority of Millwall & Charlton would be hoping I wasn't seriously hurt and once the 90 minutes are up would be wishing me well.
Would I be upset, crying and hurt that you lot took the piss? Would I fuck. Serves me right for acting a plank.
Don't get where all this moral outrage comes from at times, almost like you do it to make yourselves feel better, that no matter how bad things are at the valley "at least we ain't scum like Millwall". Get over yourselves!!
In most circumstances you'd be right but when a bloke has fallen on his head from 20 feet, there's a fair chance he's done some serious damage - you are a wrong un. Live with it.
Dan you've almost got me typing away furiously there, I nibbled at the bait but I'm leaving it well alone!
That vital millwall site is acknowledged by most Millwall fans as the home of your wannabee, pretend chav hooligan - the type that most Millwall fans are embarrassed about.
Okay, I apologise everyone. I'm clearly in the wrong here and out of step with the majority of modern football fans. You've convinced me that singing funny songs to a potentially dead/dying away fan is a hilarious thing to do and if it happens at The Valley expect me to start the "Brains Outside His Head" chant. It's only banter after all all innit?
I'm off to watch some beheading videos in the net now, they're well wicked and I need some cheering up at the mo'.
If he feel a few feet or looked fine I would've be joining in with most of the chants and found it funnier than homophobic chanting, but at that height and head first with no movement I would be concerned. No moral high ground, just the truth. A lot of millwall fans (the ones who don't stand by the away end) seemed to be concerned as well.
Why does everyone keep saying he landed on his head? He'd be in a much more serious condition if he had!
I think most Millwall were hoping he was fine. Nobody wants to see someone die/seriously hurt at football.
I really cannot see what the problem is here, an away fan who by all accounts is acting a knob falls over the edge and lands in the bottom tier, then what follows is a massive amount of stick from a section of the home fans.
Now I use the word section here because as in a majority of most grounds the songs, stick, abuse etc all comes from the home fans gathered behind a certain goal, not from the side stands.
Whilst I can understand a lot of you on here saying it is out of order etc the fact is it happens, however nobody is suggesting everyone joins in. If the lads behind the goal want to give a bit of stick to the away fans by way of a song or a chant let them, those of us, me included, that sit on the sides do not have to, nor are we being asked to join in.
If you want to sit there with your head in your hands or your mouth wide open in amazement when an away fan suffers an ill fate, good for you, if this is how you show concern then do it, however if the lads behind the home goal, many of which have had 'one too many' want to make fun of it, let them, it does not make us a bad club.
Recently (Colchester at home I think) an away fan collapsed in the Jimmy Seed stand, paramedics moved in, treated him for some time then took him away on a stretcher to a warm applause around he ground.
Had he been standing up with his shirt off, giving the home fans the finger before he collapsed the reception he received would have been different, by the sound of it this is what has happened at Millwall.
Ask yourself this, how many fans have you heard falling from a top tier to a bottom tier at a football match, he must have been standing, misbehaving and probably pissed.
"I know this is a few days on but I forgot to mention the abuse he gave Neil Harris when Neil was warming up. The welsh prick nearly fell out then because he was leaning over so much and screaming abuse at Neil. He was grabbing his bollocks and gesturing. Now you don't have to be a genius to work out was being said. Ryan oliver is a prize welsh cunt and the sympathy he got from dave' i love a youngun' jones really fucks me off."
If our star player was abused in like manner I'd have little sympathy for the Flying Welshman but then we don't have a 'star' player...so I guess the point's irrelevant!
I assume all the 'Outraged of Charlton's' on here, never:
- Suggested Wenger is a pedo
- Insisted that a football fan has had intercourse with his mother or sister.
- Wished fans of Palace or Millwall would burn to death
- Made assumptions about the marital status of the referee's mother or asked if he regularly pleasures himself.
- Insisted that the physios not assist and injured player and instead let him die
Of course Millwall fans will try to justify their own crowds behaviour. But laughing and jeering at some idiot who fell 20 feet on to a concrete surface is just wrong. Even if he acted like an idiot beforehand. I dont recall them ever admitting fault - its always somebody elses, the police... the stewards, the oppo fans. Thing is lots of them love the reputation and it becomes almost self fulfilling.
[cite]Posted By: Fishead[/cite]Of course Millwall fans will try to justify their own crowds behaviour. But laughing and jeering at some idiot who fell 20 feet on to a concrete surface is just wrong. Even if he acted like an idiot beforehand.
I dont recall them ever admitting fault - its always somebody elses, the police... the stewards, the oppo fans.
Thing is lots of them love the reputation and it becomes almost self fulfilling.
[cite]Posted By: DRF[/cite] assume all the 'Outraged of Charlton's' on here, never:
- Suggested Wenger is a pedo
- Insisted that a football fan has had intercourse with his mother or sister.
- Wished fans of Palace or Millwall would burn to death
- Made assumptions about the marital status of the referee's mother or asked if he regularly pleasures himself.
- Insisted that the physios not assist and injured player and instead let him die
No? Good, you may continue to throw stones. .
No to the first one, yes to all the others.
if you can't see the difference between singing build a bonfire and the adams family, and rejoicing in an incident in front of your very eyes where someone could potentially die, then i am very different to you, that's all i'll say.
If that had happened at Charlton, i know exactly what would happen. There would be silence, because we would all be in shock, and not needing to act all bertie big bravado in front of our mates. While the person is laying motionless on the floor, if anyone tried to start derogatory songs (which would only be the 14/15yr olds at the back of the NU), they would have been shouted down. The difference here is this isn't the kids finding it funny, but the mid life crisis i'm a pwopa geezer brigade.
We're fundamentally different from that lot, we haven't got the same amount idiots and we certainly haven't got the same amount of herd mentality wannabees. You might think serves him right, but you wouldn't make songs about it.
Piss bored with talking about Millwall on here. We're having our bad times, they're having the good ones. Sooner or later we'll get our act together and we'll be on the up again, and sooner or later they'll self impode when one incident too far will take them back 10 years again.
[cite]Posted By: AFKABartram[/cite]Piss bored with talking about Millwall on here. We're having our bad times, they're having the good ones. Sooner or later we'll get our act together and we'll be on the up again, and sooner or later they'll self impode when one incident too far will take them back 10 years again.
[cite]Posted By: DRF[/cite]assume all the 'Outraged of Charlton's' on here, never:
- Suggested Wenger is a pedo
- Insisted that a football fan has had intercourse with his mother or sister.
- Wished fans of Palace or Millwall would burn to death
- Made assumptions about the marital status of the referee's mother or asked if he regularly pleasures himself.
- Insisted that the physios not assist and injured player and instead let him die
No? Good, you may continue to throw stones. .
No to the first one, yes to all the others.
if you can't see the difference between singing build a bonfire and the adams family, and rejoicing in an incident in front of your very eyes where someone could potentially die, then i am very different to you, that's all i'll say.
If that had happened at Charlton, i know exactly what would happen. There would be silence, because we would all be in shock, and not needing to act all bertie big bravado in front of our mates. While the person is laying motionless on the floor, if anyone tried to start derogatory songs (which would only be the 14/15yr olds at the back of the NU), they would have been shouted down. The difference here is this isn't the kids finding it funny, but the mid life crisis i'm a pwopa geezer brigade.
We're fundamentally different from that lot, we haven't got the same amount idiots and we certainly haven't got the same amount of herd mentality wannabees. You might think serves him right, but you wouldn't make songs about it.
Piss bored with talking about Millwall on here. We're having our bad times, they're having the good ones. Sooner or later we'll get our act together and we'll be on the up again, and sooner or later they'll self impode when one incident too far will take them back 10 years again.
We will have to agree to disgree, I think our fans would laugh if a Palace supporter who had been jeering at them fell.
The fact is his brains were not splattered across the concrete.
[cite]Posted By: Fishead[/cite]Yeah, it was our fault that the fella fell 20ft.
Bloody hell.
Never said it was.
Well, what point were you trying to make rather than go off on a tangent and raise the same tiresome points and arguments that many on here believe in without having the first idea about things?
If that had happened at Charlton, i know exactly what would happen. There would be silence, because we would all be in shock, and not needing to act all bertie big bravado in front of our mates. While the person is laying motionless on the floor, if anyone tried to start derogatory songs (which would only be the 14/15yr olds at the back of the NU), they would have been shouted down. The difference here is this isn't the kids finding it funny, but the mid life crisis i'm a pwopa geezer brigade.
We're fundamentally different from that lot, we haven't got the same amount idiots and we certainly haven't got the same amount of herd mentality wannabees. You might think serves him right, but you wouldn't make songs about it.
I wouldn't say people were "rejoicing" Afka. Nice use of language though.
If that had happened at Charlton, i know exactly what would happen. There would be silence, because we would all be in shock, and not needing to act all bertie big bravado in front of our mates. While the person is laying motionless on the floor, if anyone tried to start derogatory songs (which would only be the 14/15yr olds at the back of the NU), they would have been shouted down. The difference here is this isn't the kids finding it funny, but the mid life crisis i'm a pwopa geezer brigade.
We're fundamentally different from that lot, we haven't got the same amount idiots and we certainly haven't got the same amount of herd mentality wannabees. You might think serves him right, but you wouldn't make songs about it.
I wouldn't say people were "rejoicing" Afka. Nice use of language though.
The man's head was smashed like an eggshell and it was replayed on the big screen to whoops of joy from the north kent lacoste gang. Don't deny it Sparrows, if he hadn't of pulled through it would have gone above the death of the Leeds fan in Turkey as the greatest day of your life.
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If he feel a few feet or looked fine I would've be joining in with most of the chants and found it funnier than homophobic chanting, but at that height and head first with no movement I would be concerned. No moral high ground, just the truth. A lot of millwall fans (the ones who don't stand by the away end) seemed to be concerned as well.
Bait?
That vital millwall site is acknowledged by most Millwall fans as the home of your wannabee, pretend chav hooligan - the type that most Millwall fans are embarrassed about.
I hope you didn't mean spot on, as you would then be WRONG.
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I'm off to watch some beheading videos in the net now, they're well wicked and I need some cheering up at the mo'.
Why does everyone keep saying he landed on his head? He'd be in a much more serious condition if he had!
I think most Millwall were hoping he was fine. Nobody wants to see someone die/seriously hurt at football.
Now I use the word section here because as in a majority of most grounds the songs, stick, abuse etc all comes from the home fans gathered behind a certain goal, not from the side stands.
Whilst I can understand a lot of you on here saying it is out of order etc the fact is it happens, however nobody is suggesting everyone joins in. If the lads behind the goal want to give a bit of stick to the away fans by way of a song or a chant let them, those of us, me included, that sit on the sides do not have to, nor are we being asked to join in.
If you want to sit there with your head in your hands or your mouth wide open in amazement when an away fan suffers an ill fate, good for you, if this is how you show concern then do it, however if the lads behind the home goal, many of which have had 'one too many' want to make fun of it, let them, it does not make us a bad club.
Recently (Colchester at home I think) an away fan collapsed in the Jimmy Seed stand, paramedics moved in, treated him for some time then took him away on a stretcher to a warm applause around he ground.
Had he been standing up with his shirt off, giving the home fans the finger before he collapsed the reception he received would have been different, by the sound of it this is what has happened at Millwall.
Ask yourself this, how many fans have you heard falling from a top tier to a bottom tier at a football match, he must have been standing, misbehaving and probably pissed.
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If our star player was abused in like manner I'd have little sympathy for the Flying Welshman but then we don't have a 'star' player...so I guess the point's irrelevant!
- Suggested Wenger is a pedo
- Insisted that a football fan has had intercourse with his mother or sister.
- Wished fans of Palace or Millwall would burn to death
- Made assumptions about the marital status of the referee's mother or asked if he regularly pleasures himself.
- Insisted that the physios not assist and injured player and instead let him die
No? Good, you may continue to throw stones.
I dont recall them ever admitting fault - its always somebody elses, the police... the stewards, the oppo fans.
Thing is lots of them love the reputation and it becomes almost self fulfilling.
Yeah, it was our fault that the fella fell 20ft.
Bloody hell.
No to the first one, yes to all the others.
if you can't see the difference between singing build a bonfire and the adams family, and rejoicing in an incident in front of your very eyes where someone could potentially die, then i am very different to you, that's all i'll say.
If that had happened at Charlton, i know exactly what would happen. There would be silence, because we would all be in shock, and not needing to act all bertie big bravado in front of our mates. While the person is laying motionless on the floor, if anyone tried to start derogatory songs (which would only be the 14/15yr olds at the back of the NU), they would have been shouted down. The difference here is this isn't the kids finding it funny, but the mid life crisis i'm a pwopa geezer brigade.
We're fundamentally different from that lot, we haven't got the same amount idiots and we certainly haven't got the same amount of herd mentality wannabees. You might think serves him right, but you wouldn't make songs about it.
Piss bored with talking about Millwall on here. We're having our bad times, they're having the good ones. Sooner or later we'll get our act together and we'll be on the up again, and sooner or later they'll self impode when one incident too far will take them back 10 years again.
Bloody hell.
Never said it was.
Never a truer word!
We will have to agree to disgree, I think our fans would laugh if a Palace supporter who had been jeering at them fell.
The fact is his brains were not splattered across the concrete.
Well, what point were you trying to make rather than go off on a tangent and raise the same tiresome points and arguments that many on here believe in without having the first idea about things?
My alarm clock plays Sing Hosanna
The man's head was smashed like an eggshell and it was replayed on the big screen to whoops of joy from the north kent lacoste gang. Don't deny it Sparrows, if he hadn't of pulled through it would have gone above the death of the Leeds fan in Turkey as the greatest day of your life.