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Labradors, German Shepherds & Dogs.....

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  • T_C_E said:
    Try Danny Lines in Essex, I seem to remember he did explosive work from when I started out on bite work with him. 
    He’s also got a FB page. 

    Absolutely brilliant MC as well for house music, been a few Centreforce gigs in last two years and he is the bollox, his show on a Wednesday is brilliant as well.
  • T_C_E said:
    Try Danny Lines in Essex, I seem to remember he did explosive work from when I started out on bite work with him. 
    He’s also got a FB page. 

    Absolutely brilliant MC as well for house music, been a few Centreforce gigs in last two years and he is the bollox, his show on a Wednesday is brilliant as well.
    Struth, that’s a bit different.
    Last I heard he was security for various visiting film stars as well as training a dog for Jude Law. 
  • Doesn't he just.  Does he know his come by from his awaaaay yet?

  • Doesn't he just.  Does he know his come by from his awaaaay yet?

    He’s teaching him that in Welsh ffs 🤦🏻‍♀️ 😂😂
  • Doesn't he just.  Does he know his come by from his awaaaay yet?

    He’s teaching him that in Welsh ffs 🤦🏻‍♀️ 😂😂
    At least the sheep won’t know what he’s doing.
  • 3 photos, above, of Mrs RM training our male GSD 'Zeek' to jump vertically on demand. Cant believe this lad is 8 yrs old now! Still really fit and competes in 'man hunt trials'
  • The photo below is of Mrs RM at Crufts last week, 'handling' someone else's GSD in the ring, and coming first!


    Nice pic 
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  • Cor Red, you must be very proud of your lovely lady 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻♥️
  • Cor Red, you must be very proud of your lovely lady 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻♥️
    Thank you, yes I am. When you consider the photos above, she switches between training our GSD's (Zeek being just 1) and then calmly taking 2 'unknown GSD's' into the biggest show ring in the dog world, Crufts, and winning. 
    Mrs RM has a natural affinity with dogs in general, but especially so with GSD's.
    Just yesterday, for example, she ran a 'scentwork' class in the morning (training dogs to search), then in the afternoon  she ran a 'play aware class' (how to keep your dog fit and healthy).
    Today she is running 3 classes from basic puppy training, to 'manhunt' training (what Police dogs do). 
    So, yes I'm proud of her skills, and her patience!
    I couldn't do it to be honest.
  • Clever lady.

  • I witnessed an altercation this morning on the school run.

    A dog (Golden Cocker Spaniel) was left by itself tied to the school fence. As I walked past it I heard a boy, 5 (In my daughter's class), ask his Mum if he could stroke it. Mum says 'yes'.

    To me, the dog clearly looked unsettled. Crying, pacing up and down, certainly not a dog I would approach not knowing it. As the boy put his hand out the dog went for him, biting him aggressively on the arm. The dog then went for the owner when he returned.

    I'm not a dog owner but my initial feeling was that everyone was at fault in this instance, but an angry mob really went after the dog owner with wild shouts from the dog should be put down to calling the police and requesting compensation.

    Curious what actual dog owners make of this situation. I've been asked to write a statement by the school as authorities have got involved.
  • edited May 22
    The dog shouldn't have been left alone but children should be taught not to stroke a dog before asking the dog owner. It was good that the kid asked permission but the mother shouldn't have said yes, not knowing the dog. Some kids/people approach dogs aggressively which scares them and the dog doesn't have to be an aggresive one by nature to react. I would apportion the majority of the blame with the dog owner as if they were there, they could have warned the child to keep away from the dog or explained to them how to approach. I would say, if any of us were minding our own business and a stanger rushed into our personal space, we might feel threatened and push them away or even punch them. The dog may have been a bit anxious already, being left alone. Maybe the best solution is that both sides learn lessons from the incident rather than the dog getting put down which would be sad.
  • Any parent that allows their young child to approach and stroke a dog without the owners permission is a fool.
    I feel sorry for the youngster for having a Dick head of a mum and I also feel sorry for the dog.
  • Firstly, tying up a dog in the street is so far morally wrong I find it incredible.
    Ask any person responsible for a dog and they will tell you how much they love it, yet they will leave it outside shops/schools etc, I ask the question would they leave their wallet in the same position or their key in the ignition of the car of course they wouldn’t. 
    In this case child and dog are blameless, the persons responsible for dog and the child are at fault.
    The dog has two options when it feels threatened “fight or flight” one of those options has been removed because it’s tied up so it bites.
    I dare say the dog will pay the ultimate price for others actions. 
  • edited May 22
    I echo the sentiments already shared.  Tying up a dog at a school fence, fkn unbelievable!

    A five year old is almost at the same eye level as the dog which is already in a state of anxiety, this was a recipe for disaster.  I hope the outcome is that all the lessons to be learned from this are taken on board by all concerned and that the dog's decision is taken into account also.

  • As usual it’s adults who are to blame & the child & the dog suffer.

    Some grown ups shouldn’t be allowed to have kids or animals quite frankly.
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  • The other day 2 XL bully dogs killed their female owner in Essex. They were both legally registered but it didn't say if they had been neutered.
    Are you allowed to register and then neuter at a later date? 
  • SOTF said:
    I witnessed an altercation this morning on the school run.

    A dog (Golden Cocker Spaniel) was left by itself tied to the school fence. As I walked past it I heard a boy, 5 (In my daughter's class), ask his Mum if he could stroke it. Mum says 'yes'.

    To me, the dog clearly looked unsettled. Crying, pacing up and down, certainly not a dog I would approach not knowing it. As the boy put his hand out the dog went for him, biting him aggressively on the arm. The dog then went for the owner when he returned.

    I'm not a dog owner but my initial feeling was that everyone was at fault in this instance, but an angry mob really went after the dog owner with wild shouts from the dog should be put down to calling the police and requesting compensation.

    Curious what actual dog owners make of this situation. I've been asked to write a statement by the school as authorities have got involved.
    People need to remember that dogs aren't public property, my mini daxies are incredibly cute but again if you come and try and touch one of them, especially if they don't know you and you come in their face, looming over them and trying to touch them on the back/top of their head where they can't anticipate your movements or intentions, you'll be barked at as a minimum, and if they feel particularly threatened will resort to trying to bite you. A dog that's been restrained and separated from it's owner is in a highly stressful moment, essentially that's the worst time to approach them, and I'm not surprised one iota that it reacted in that way. Dogs are very instinctive, it's fight or flight and if they can't run away they resort to fight. Hopefully common sense prevails and it's realised that the animal is the victim here but unfortunately the authorities take a dim view on biting
  • sam3110 said:
    SOTF said:
    I witnessed an altercation this morning on the school run.

    A dog (Golden Cocker Spaniel) was left by itself tied to the school fence. As I walked past it I heard a boy, 5 (In my daughter's class), ask his Mum if he could stroke it. Mum says 'yes'.

    To me, the dog clearly looked unsettled. Crying, pacing up and down, certainly not a dog I would approach not knowing it. As the boy put his hand out the dog went for him, biting him aggressively on the arm. The dog then went for the owner when he returned.

    I'm not a dog owner but my initial feeling was that everyone was at fault in this instance, but an angry mob really went after the dog owner with wild shouts from the dog should be put down to calling the police and requesting compensation.

    Curious what actual dog owners make of this situation. I've been asked to write a statement by the school as authorities have got involved.
    People need to remember that dogs aren't public property, my mini daxies are incredibly cute but again if you come and try and touch one of them, especially if they don't know you and you come in their face, looming over them and trying to touch them on the back/top of their head where they can't anticipate your movements or intentions, you'll be barked at as a minimum, and if they feel particularly threatened will resort to trying to bite you. A dog that's been restrained and separated from it's owner is in a highly stressful moment, essentially that's the worst time to approach them, and I'm not surprised one iota that it reacted in that way. Dogs are very instinctive, it's fight or flight and if they can't run away they resort to fight. Hopefully common sense prevails and it's realised that the animal is the victim here but unfortunately the authorities take a dim view on biting
    I think that's fair enough
  • T_C_E said:
    Watching my dogs interact with children as young as four in school is something I’ll take to my grave in the form of lovely memories, but watching them interact with children with additional needs and learning difficulties is of the scale. 
    Obviously I’d love to share photos/videos but sadly I can’t or there are none, but nothing in the world can replace a child speaking for the first time, making eye contact for the first time or reading their first book.
    Again on Thursday I was greeted by a young lad with a huge hug who had asked to come out to read, reminding myself four years ago he would run by the Reading station avoiding eye contact and sometimes screaming while on his way to the toilet.
    Now he asks to come out and to be honest Reading is secondary if we get any it’s a bonus but his social skills to me are more important, recognising when to speak to him in school was something I had to learn, stopping and when not to stop as we passed him in the corridors was often an exact science, again something I had to learn. 
    Slowly breaking down the barriers, when to look when not to look when to talk when not to talk over weeks and months and now years have paid back in heaps and there’s not enough money in the world I’d exchange for the breakthrough with that child.

    Watching Valli’s interaction with him very closely as I do, she shows no signs of stress she simply loves the attention and often rewards a child with a kiss.
    Although rewarding, I find the whole time I’m there very stressful and often leave the school with the headache from hell, watching my dogs behaviour around the children and also the children themselves I school get to learn if a child is going to take liberties with my dog and strangely only mainstream children are likely to be mischievous rather than those with additional needs in my experience.
    All in in all, I consider myself very privileged to be in the position I’m in and I’m also very aware of the public’s perception of my breed of dog so I’m very protective of our position and don’t allow people who think it’s okay to try to introduce their dog to mine in the street because “it’s the Reading dog” fortunately normally my dog will tell them first to be elsewhere.
    In my 14 years working in Therapy work I never forget they are dogs, they can’t tell me they are feeling crap and are not on their game so it’s up to me to be able to read my dogs behaviour.
    The responsibility lays at the other end of the lead and until people accept that they’ll continue to be incidents like mentioned above.

    Blimey! Jimmy Bullard has let himself go!
  • @cafcfan
    Can I assume your comments are directed towards the 97 year old lady in the latter stages of dementia? 
    If so Why? 
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