if we do make it to the championship I think Wagstaff, Euell, Alonso, doherty, sullivan and hughes should be released or sold because they won't cut it in the championship and haven't impressed this season!
Even though this thread was originally meant as a joke I'll join in.
Whatever we do in summer transfer deals I hope that we are in profit by the end of it.
Regardless of the division we are in (and yes I am being serious) I would be happy to see one or two of our key players go if it pays for the strengthening of the squad or reduces our debt.
The current squad even with the removal of a couple of players is good enough to challenge for League 1 promotion again or mid table in the Championship.
We have plenty of young fringe players and they need to be given the chance to prove themselves.
On that basis we will naturally lose the likes of Doherty, Alonso, Euell and Hughes due to contracts not being renewed. If he's good enough then Mambo should replace Doherty as 4th choice central defender, Alonso needs no replacement as he hasn't been part of the set up. Hughes could be replaced by Russell on a permanent deal. Euell has already been replaced by Clarke or Haynes.
With Clarke and Haynes only recently signed I think it would be churlish to suggest that we bring in another striker. We have 5 first team strikers and only if we are able to sell one should we bring in another.
Sell before we buy should be the philosophy that is applied throughout the squad.
I'm looking for financial and on field stability next year.
I think Powell and Slater/Jiminez will be far more ruthless than that, johnny73.
''Keeping faith wth the players who got us here'' is a noble sentiment. But there is no room for sentiment. As they did last summer, they will look at every position on the pitch from 1 to 11 and ask if they need to improve.
In four or five positions, they will surely conclude that they can. And I say that as no criticism of the current squad, who are excellent and have made me enjoy watching CAFC for the first time in four or five years.
I think Powell and Slater/Jiminez will be far more ruthless than that, johnny73.
''Keeping faith wth the players who got us here'' is a noble sentiment. But there is no room for sentiment. As they did last summer, they will look at every position on the pitch from 1 to 11 and ask if they need to improve.
In four or five positions, they will surely conclude that they can. And I say that as no criticism of the current squad, who are excellent and have made me enjoy watching CAFC for the first time in four or five years.
You are right sentiment plays no part in it. I wouldn't keep the players for any reason other than they are good enough. I believe they will want to improve the squad but at the same time will be financially prudent. I remember Powell saying at the start of the season that the players were brought in as part of a long term philosophy. We have some natural wastage but I do not think we will see a big turnover of players.
Looking at the list below , who do you think would be realistic signings for next season?
Championship - Current Leading Scorers
Player Club TOTAL Richard Lambert Southampton 16 Ross McCormack Leeds United 15 Jay Rodriguez Burnley 12 Michael Chopra Ipswich Town 12 David Nugent Leicester City 12 Darius Henderson Millwall 12 Robert Snodgrass Leeds United 11 Billy Sharp Southampton 11 Ricardo Vaz Te Barnsley 10 Kevin Phillips Blackpool 10 Chris Wood Bristol City 10 Charlie Austin Burnley 10 Lukas Jutkiewicz Middlesbrough 10 Guly Do Prado Southampton 10 Craig Davies Barnsley 9 Marlon King Birmingham 9 Peter Whittingham Cardiff City 9 Kenny Miller Cardiff City 9 Robert Koren Hull City 9 Matt Fryatt Hull City 9 Keith Andrews Ipswich Town 9 Scott McDonald Middlesbrough 9 Carlton Cole West Ham Utd 9 Andy Gray Barnsley 8 Nikola Zigic Birmingham 8 Nicky Maynard Bristol City 8 Luciano Becchio Leeds United 8 Marvin Emnes Middlesbrough 8 Grant McCann Peterborough 8 Paul Taylor Peterborough 8 Adam Lallana Southampton 8 Marvin Sordell Watford 8 Chris Burke Birmingham 7 Gary Taylor-Fletcher Blackpool 7 Craig Mackail-Smith Brighton 7 Will Buckley Brighton 7 Paul Gallagher Leicester City 7 Lee Tomlin Peterborough 7 Emile Sinclair Peterborough 7 Mark Noble West Ham Utd 7 Kevin Nolan West Ham Utd 7 Jonjo Shelvey Blackpool 6 Matt Phillips Blackpool 6 Ashley Barnes Brighton 6 Theo Robinson Derby County 6 Adam Clayton Leeds United 6 Barry Robson Middlesbrough 6 Liam Trotter Millwall 6 Erik Huseklepp Portsmouth 6 Adam Le Fondre Reading 6 Simon Church Reading 6 David Connolly Southampton 6 Jacob Butterfield Barnsley 5 Curtis Davies Birmingham 5 Brett Pitman Bristol City 5 Albert Adomah Bristol City 5 Ross Wallace Burnley 5 Aron Gunnarsson Cardiff City 5 Joe Mason Cardiff City 5 Gary McSheffrey Coventry City 5 Glenn Murray Crystal Palace 5 Chris Martin Crystal Palace 5 Jermaine Easter Crystal Palace 5 Lee Martin Ipswich Town 5 Marcus Tudgay Nottm Forest 5 George Boyd Peterborough 5 Lee Frecklington Peterborough 5 Luke Varney Portsmouth 5 David Norris Portsmouth 5 Sam Baldock West Ham Utd 5
Player Club TOTAL Robert Snodgrass Leeds United 11 Peter Whittingham Cardiff City 11 Chris Burke Birmingham 10 Frazer Richardson Southampton 9 Richard Lambert Southampton 9 Daniel Fox Southampton 8 Mark Yeates Watford 8 Jobi McAnuff Reading 8 George Boyd Peterborough 8 Ben Davies Derby County 7 Jimmy Kebe Reading 7 Jacob Butterfield Barnsley 7 Guly Do Prado Southampton 7 Liam Lawrence Portsmouth 6 Matthew Taylor West Ham Utd 6 Junior Stanislas Burnley 6 Ross Wallace Burnley 6 Daniel Drinkwater Barnsley 6 Craig Mackail-Smith Brighton 6 Robert Koren Hull City 6 Lee Tomlin Peterborough 6 Gary Taylor-Fletcher Blackpool 6 Aaron Cresswell Ipswich Town 5 Kieran Trippier Burnley 5 Andy Reid Nottm Forest 5 Albert Adomah Bristol City 5 Richie Wellens Leicester City 5 Darius Henderson Millwall 5 Adam Lallana Southampton 5
Player Club TOTAL Jordan Rhodes Huddersfield 27 Ched Evans Sheffield Utd 15 Bradley Wright-Phillips Charlton 14 Gary Alexander Brentford 12 Gary Madine Sheffield Wed 12 Johnnie Jackson Charlton 11 Wesley Thomas Bournemouth 10 Lee Hughes Notts County 10 Jeff Hughes Notts County 10 Stuart Beavon Wycombe 10 Lee Miller Carlisle 9 Francois Zoko Carlisle 9 Leon Clarke Chesterfield 9 Anthony Wordsworth Colchester 9 Andrew Williams Yeovil Town 9 Andy Bishop Bury 8 Shefki Kuqi Oldham 8 Neil Mellor Preston 8 Ryan Lowe Sheffield Wed 8 Marcello Trotta Wycombe 8 Marc Pugh Bournemouth 7 Yann Kermorgant Charlton 7 Ian Henderson Colchester 7 Daniel Nardiello Exeter City 7 Lee Novak Huddersfield 7 Kevin Lisbie Leyton Orient 7 Dean Bowditch MK Dons 7 Charlie MacDonald MK Dons 7 Ashley Grimes Rochdale 7 Bobby Grant Scunthorpe 7 Richard Cresswell Sheffield Utd 7 James Berrett Carlisle 6 Danny Hollands Charlton 6 Craig Westcarr Chesterfield 6 Steven Gillespie Colchester 6 James Poole Hartlepool 6 Alan Lee Huddersfield 6 Gary Roberts Huddersfield 6 Jabo Ibehre MK Dons 6 Iain Hume Preston 6 Andy Barcham Scunthorpe 6 Lee Williamson Sheffield Utd 6 Reda Johnson Sheffield Wed 6 Scott Laird Stevenage 6 Chris Beardsley Stevenage 6 Harry Arter Bournemouth 5 Clayton Donaldson Brentford 5 Sam Saunders Brentford 5 Adam Boyd Hartlepool 5 Antony Sweeney Hartlepool 5 Jimmy Smith Leyton Orient 5 Dean Cox Leyton Orient 5 Gary Jones Rochdale 5 Chris Porter Sheffield Utd 5 Matt Phillips Sheffield Utd 5 Ben Marshall Sheffield Wed 5 Alex Nicholls Walsall 5 Jonathan Macken Walsall 5 Kieran Agard Yeovil Town 5
Player Club TOTAL Stephen Quinn Sheffield Utd 11 Dean Bowditch MK Dons 9 Lee Miller Carlisle 9 Jack Hunt Huddersfield 8 Gary Roberts Huddersfield 8 Edward Upson Yeovil Town 8 Robbie Simpson Oldham 8 Lee Novak Huddersfield 8 Peter Sweeney Bury 7 Dean Cox Leyton Orient 7 Clayton Donaldson Brentford 7 Richard Cresswell Sheffield Utd 7 Bradley Wright-Phillips Charlton 7 Chris Lines Sheffield Wed 6 Ben Marshall Sheffield Wed 6 Danny Green Charlton 6 Evan Horwood Hartlepool 6 Daniel Ward Huddersfield 6 Alan Judge Notts County 6 Craig Westcarr Chesterfield 6 Luke Chadwick MK Dons 6 Michael O'Connor Scunthorpe 6 Alan Sheehan Notts County 5 Johnnie Jackson Charlton 5 Paul Parry Preston 5 Luke Freeman Stevenage 5 Marc Pugh Bournemouth 5 Stephen Gleeson MK Dons 5 Paul Coutts Preston 5 Ched Evans Sheffield Utd 5 Jeff Hughes Notts County 5 Chris Taylor Oldham 5 Mark Duffy Scunthorpe 5 Gavin Williams Yeovil Town 5 Wesley Thomas Bournemouth 5 Sam Saunders Brentford 5 Paul Hayes Charlton 5 Danny Hollands Charlton 5 Kayode Odejayi Colchester 5 Lawrie Wilson Stevenage 5
Hayes has got 5 assists to his name, but hasn't played for ages, shows how much we have missed him really, though Kermorgant has been influential in different ways since he came into the squad.
I think we need a new, experienced GK to help further Sullivan and Hamer, a new RB as cover for Solly, another CB to replace Doherty, a new RM to cover the sale of Wagstaff, a new LM as cover for Jackson (who will move into central midfield in 2 years time) and a new ST to replace BWP, who we will sell in the summer.
Looking at those lists (the championship ones), there is a familar name in Andy Reid.
As Forest are going down, he won't want to play in div three. He's only 29 (which surprised me - I'd have guessed he was a few years older). I know it's always dangerous going back. But there's a strong argument that says Charlton's decline started with his sale.
Looking at those lists (the championship ones), there is a familar name in Andy Reid.
As Forest are going down, he won't want to play in div three. He's only 29 (which surprised me - I'd have guessed he was a few years older). I know it's always dangerous going back. But there's a strong argument that says Charlton's decline started with his sale.
Could our revival start with his re-signing?
I really liked Reid but him and Jackson are to similar in the fact that they're both slow but have a great left peg. So maybe Jackson could be moved inside if we got Reid.
I also like the look of another of forests players which is McGugan.
Sam position wise , all sounds good, you really think BWP's off, whys that then?
I just think we'll sell him off to gain some extra money, as I think CP will want to try and bring in someone with more quality. If he does and BWP finds himself on the bench, he will probably move on to another top league 1/mid table championship team. I don't really want it to happen that way, but I can see it happening
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Whatever we do in summer transfer deals I hope that we are in profit by the end of it.
Regardless of the division we are in (and yes I am being serious) I would be happy to see one or two of our key players go if it pays for the strengthening of the squad or reduces our debt.
The current squad even with the removal of a couple of players is good enough to challenge for League 1 promotion again or mid table in the Championship.
We have plenty of young fringe players and they need to be given the chance to prove themselves.
On that basis we will naturally lose the likes of Doherty, Alonso, Euell and Hughes due to contracts not being renewed. If he's good enough then Mambo should replace Doherty as 4th choice central defender, Alonso needs no replacement as he hasn't been part of the set up. Hughes could be replaced by Russell on a permanent deal. Euell has already been replaced by Clarke or Haynes.
With Clarke and Haynes only recently signed I think it would be churlish to suggest that we bring in another striker. We have 5 first team strikers and only if we are able to sell one should we bring in another.
Sell before we buy should be the philosophy that is applied throughout the squad.
I'm looking for financial and on field stability next year.
Think we should go for and older experienced gk and maybe send Hamer out on loan. He is still fairly young for a goalkeeper.
''Keeping faith wth the players who got us here'' is a noble sentiment. But there is no room for sentiment. As they did last summer, they will look at every position on the pitch from 1 to 11 and ask if they need to improve.
In four or five positions, they will surely conclude that they can. And I say that as no criticism of the current squad, who are excellent and have made me enjoy watching CAFC for the first time in four or five years.
Championship - Current Leading Scorers
Player Club TOTAL
Richard Lambert Southampton 16
Ross McCormack Leeds United 15
Jay Rodriguez Burnley 12
Michael Chopra Ipswich Town 12
David Nugent Leicester City 12
Darius Henderson Millwall 12
Robert Snodgrass Leeds United 11
Billy Sharp Southampton 11
Ricardo Vaz Te Barnsley 10
Kevin Phillips Blackpool 10
Chris Wood Bristol City 10
Charlie Austin Burnley 10
Lukas Jutkiewicz Middlesbrough 10
Guly Do Prado Southampton 10
Craig Davies Barnsley 9
Marlon King Birmingham 9
Peter Whittingham Cardiff City 9
Kenny Miller Cardiff City 9
Robert Koren Hull City 9
Matt Fryatt Hull City 9
Keith Andrews Ipswich Town 9
Scott McDonald Middlesbrough 9
Carlton Cole West Ham Utd 9
Andy Gray Barnsley 8
Nikola Zigic Birmingham 8
Nicky Maynard Bristol City 8
Luciano Becchio Leeds United 8
Marvin Emnes Middlesbrough 8
Grant McCann Peterborough 8
Paul Taylor Peterborough 8
Adam Lallana Southampton 8
Marvin Sordell Watford 8
Chris Burke Birmingham 7
Gary Taylor-Fletcher Blackpool 7
Craig Mackail-Smith Brighton 7
Will Buckley Brighton 7
Paul Gallagher Leicester City 7
Lee Tomlin Peterborough 7
Emile Sinclair Peterborough 7
Mark Noble West Ham Utd 7
Kevin Nolan West Ham Utd 7
Jonjo Shelvey Blackpool 6
Matt Phillips Blackpool 6
Ashley Barnes Brighton 6
Theo Robinson Derby County 6
Adam Clayton Leeds United 6
Barry Robson Middlesbrough 6
Liam Trotter Millwall 6
Erik Huseklepp Portsmouth 6
Adam Le Fondre Reading 6
Simon Church Reading 6
David Connolly Southampton 6
Jacob Butterfield Barnsley 5
Curtis Davies Birmingham 5
Brett Pitman Bristol City 5
Albert Adomah Bristol City 5
Ross Wallace Burnley 5
Aron Gunnarsson Cardiff City 5
Joe Mason Cardiff City 5
Gary McSheffrey Coventry City 5
Glenn Murray Crystal Palace 5
Chris Martin Crystal Palace 5
Jermaine Easter Crystal Palace 5
Lee Martin Ipswich Town 5
Marcus Tudgay Nottm Forest 5
George Boyd Peterborough 5
Lee Frecklington Peterborough 5
Luke Varney Portsmouth 5
David Norris Portsmouth 5
Sam Baldock West Ham Utd 5
Championship Assist Makers
Player Club TOTAL
Robert Snodgrass Leeds United 11
Peter Whittingham Cardiff City 11
Chris Burke Birmingham 10
Frazer Richardson Southampton 9
Richard Lambert Southampton 9
Daniel Fox Southampton 8
Mark Yeates Watford 8
Jobi McAnuff Reading 8
George Boyd Peterborough 8
Ben Davies Derby County 7
Jimmy Kebe Reading 7
Jacob Butterfield Barnsley 7
Guly Do Prado Southampton 7
Liam Lawrence Portsmouth 6
Matthew Taylor West Ham Utd 6
Junior Stanislas Burnley 6
Ross Wallace Burnley 6
Daniel Drinkwater Barnsley 6
Craig Mackail-Smith Brighton 6
Robert Koren Hull City 6
Lee Tomlin Peterborough 6
Gary Taylor-Fletcher Blackpool 6
Aaron Cresswell Ipswich Town 5
Kieran Trippier Burnley 5
Andy Reid Nottm Forest 5
Albert Adomah Bristol City 5
Richie Wellens Leicester City 5
Darius Henderson Millwall 5
Adam Lallana Southampton 5
League 1 - Current Leading Scorers
Player Club TOTAL
Jordan Rhodes Huddersfield 27
Ched Evans Sheffield Utd 15
Bradley Wright-Phillips Charlton 14
Gary Alexander Brentford 12
Gary Madine Sheffield Wed 12
Johnnie Jackson Charlton 11
Wesley Thomas Bournemouth 10
Lee Hughes Notts County 10
Jeff Hughes Notts County 10
Stuart Beavon Wycombe 10
Lee Miller Carlisle 9
Francois Zoko Carlisle 9
Leon Clarke Chesterfield 9
Anthony Wordsworth Colchester 9
Andrew Williams Yeovil Town 9
Andy Bishop Bury 8
Shefki Kuqi Oldham 8
Neil Mellor Preston 8
Ryan Lowe Sheffield Wed 8
Marcello Trotta Wycombe 8
Marc Pugh Bournemouth 7
Yann Kermorgant Charlton 7
Ian Henderson Colchester 7
Daniel Nardiello Exeter City 7
Lee Novak Huddersfield 7
Kevin Lisbie Leyton Orient 7
Dean Bowditch MK Dons 7
Charlie MacDonald MK Dons 7
Ashley Grimes Rochdale 7
Bobby Grant Scunthorpe 7
Richard Cresswell Sheffield Utd 7
James Berrett Carlisle 6
Danny Hollands Charlton 6
Craig Westcarr Chesterfield 6
Steven Gillespie Colchester 6
James Poole Hartlepool 6
Alan Lee Huddersfield 6
Gary Roberts Huddersfield 6
Jabo Ibehre MK Dons 6
Iain Hume Preston 6
Andy Barcham Scunthorpe 6
Lee Williamson Sheffield Utd 6
Reda Johnson Sheffield Wed 6
Scott Laird Stevenage 6
Chris Beardsley Stevenage 6
Harry Arter Bournemouth 5
Clayton Donaldson Brentford 5
Sam Saunders Brentford 5
Adam Boyd Hartlepool 5
Antony Sweeney Hartlepool 5
Jimmy Smith Leyton Orient 5
Dean Cox Leyton Orient 5
Gary Jones Rochdale 5
Chris Porter Sheffield Utd 5
Matt Phillips Sheffield Utd 5
Ben Marshall Sheffield Wed 5
Alex Nicholls Walsall 5
Jonathan Macken Walsall 5
Kieran Agard Yeovil Town 5
Player Club TOTAL
Stephen Quinn Sheffield Utd 11
Dean Bowditch MK Dons 9
Lee Miller Carlisle 9
Jack Hunt Huddersfield 8
Gary Roberts Huddersfield 8
Edward Upson Yeovil Town 8
Robbie Simpson Oldham 8
Lee Novak Huddersfield 8
Peter Sweeney Bury 7
Dean Cox Leyton Orient 7
Clayton Donaldson Brentford 7
Richard Cresswell Sheffield Utd 7
Bradley Wright-Phillips Charlton 7
Chris Lines Sheffield Wed 6
Ben Marshall Sheffield Wed 6
Danny Green Charlton 6
Evan Horwood Hartlepool 6
Daniel Ward Huddersfield 6
Alan Judge Notts County 6
Craig Westcarr Chesterfield 6
Luke Chadwick MK Dons 6
Michael O'Connor Scunthorpe 6
Alan Sheehan Notts County 5
Johnnie Jackson Charlton 5
Paul Parry Preston 5
Luke Freeman Stevenage 5
Marc Pugh Bournemouth 5
Stephen Gleeson MK Dons 5
Paul Coutts Preston 5
Ched Evans Sheffield Utd 5
Jeff Hughes Notts County 5
Chris Taylor Oldham 5
Mark Duffy Scunthorpe 5
Gavin Williams Yeovil Town 5
Wesley Thomas Bournemouth 5
Sam Saunders Brentford 5
Paul Hayes Charlton 5
Danny Hollands Charlton 5
Kayode Odejayi Colchester 5
Lawrie Wilson Stevenage 5
I think we need a new, experienced GK to help further Sullivan and Hamer, a new RB as cover for Solly, another CB to replace Doherty, a new RM to cover the sale of Wagstaff, a new LM as cover for Jackson (who will move into central midfield in 2 years time) and a new ST to replace BWP, who we will sell in the summer.
As Forest are going down, he won't want to play in div three. He's only 29 (which surprised me - I'd have guessed he was a few years older). I know it's always dangerous going back. But there's a strong argument that says Charlton's decline started with his sale.
Could our revival start with his re-signing?
I also like the look of another of forests players which is McGugan.
I.e. Powell (MK Dons), Jermaine Johnson (Sheff Wed)...