Speedy, good in the air for a little'un and with a decent shot on him. But unable to link play. Plus as Charlton Bob says a bit brainless. He missed nearly all his one on ones, so I trained myself to expect him not to score. He was brilliant in the Liverpool game though.
But a very decent player on the ball, neat control and and could beat his man. Paulo di Canio said at the time that Lisbie had the most natural ability of any player then at Charlton.
His big problem was that he panicked in front of goal. If only he could have trained himself to be steady and composed.
Agree about the freezing in front of goal, I think it was the 4-0 Man City game, where despite terrorising their defence he contrived to miss some absolute sitters.
I suppose that one of the ironies was that his pace got him into situations, where he had time to think about his finishing, and yet when it was when he had time to think that he was at his worst, as he literally seemed to freeze with the ball.
Still we have had a lot worse than 'Super Kev' over the years!
The Bartlett/ Euell/ Lisbie combo is one of the best attacking combos we've had in my time. I would really like to have him back right now, but I cannot get over the Watford miss. Lisbie's speed and balance gave him more one-on-ones than any other Charlton player I've ever seen. And he missed 99% of them.
Seem to remember in a Premier League match against Manchester City on the opening day of the season (Year after we won the Championship and beat them 4-1)... Lisbie started that match and had so many chances to score, a few one-on-ones as well I think and wasted all of them, was so disappointed when he went off that he hadnt scored because he deserved to, just his finishing had let him down
Many strikers are lethal and prolific in the box - but in a 1-on-1, they fluff nearly every time.
IMO the same mentality is needed as when taking a penalty ........ know already how you will approach it and be decisive. You'll score 9 out of 10.
And the one you miss will be a brilliant save or luck, by the keeper. And that's just football.
The problem is probably down to the fact that when your in the box you get a split second to make the decision so you score... When your through on goal you've got too much time to think about how your going to complete the shot that they mess it up... like you say when a player gets a penalty, you want them to take it as quickly as possible so they remain decisive
However his finishing was not always the best and he picked up serious injuries at the wrong times which stopped him going as far as he might.
If his finishing was just a bit better and he could have stayed fit (in an injury sense) he would have gone on to far better things than Charlton. The rest of his game was good enough.
Personally I was amazed Lisbie lasted so long at the club especially in the Curbishley years and then even more amazed he managed to survive when Dowie came in too.
The number of one on one's he would fluff were incredible, I used to tell my Dad there's only so many times you can say the keeper made a good save rather than blame Lisbie.
Apart from the Watford away miss which someone else mentioned the other one which stood out for me and summed him up as a player was Sunderland away, we lost 2-3 that day and the game was nearly over, Lisbie dribbled his way into the box from the right wing and made it as far as the six yard box but rather than have a go at goal himself he left the ball to another striker making a run into the box (might have been Bartlett) except the striker also stopped running thinking Lisbie would shoot from that position and in the end both players left the ball to each other and Sunderland were able to clear there lines.
Personally I was amazed Lisbie lasted so long at the club especially in the Curbishley years and then even more amazed he managed to survive when Dowie came in too.
The number of one on one's he would fluff were incredible, I used to tell my Dad there's only so many times you can say the keeper made a good save rather than blame Lisbie.
Apart from the Watford away miss which someone else mentioned the other one which stood out for me and summed him up as a player was Sunderland away, we lost 2-3 that day and the game was nearly over, Lisbie dribbled his way into the box from the right wing and made it as far as the six yard box but rather than have a go at goal himself he left the ball to another striker making a run into the box (might have been Bartlett) except the striker also stopped running thinking Lisbie would shoot from that position and in the end both players left the ball to each other and Sunderland were able to clear there lines.
Definitely stayed with us a few years too long.
you say he stayed with us a few years too long and although I would tend to agree with you to an extent, the timing of his release was quite frankly ridiculous. why we let him go when we were getting relegated to a league where i think everyone could see that he would be good in, and when we needed to keep Charlton players close was a huge error in judgement from Pardew. We signed Luke Varney for probably very similar wages who had only played League 1 whereas Lisbie was always going to be the better option.
I went to see Barnet vs Accrington Stanley today, and young Kevin came off the bench for the last 15 minutes, his debit for Barnet after injury. Barnet look a poor hoofball team, I think it will be a long season for them...
Get the feeling Lisbie was mis-managed at charlton (excuse the pun). Curbs obviously saw something in him which a lot of other people did, like myself, but in the end could not help him ( consistently) get the most important part of his game right, and that's sticking it away. His goal per game record for us was very poor, could and should have been a lot better.
I don't know if lisbie did or not but sounds like he should have gone deeper into root of the problem and saw a sports psychologist or something.
Moşt of his games under Curbs were as a lone striker at which he did a passable job given he was under 6ft. Playing off someone like Yann he'd have been prolific.
Liz scored a lot of his goals in the air. I trained myself to never expect him to score 1 - 1's, so thus didn't get too disappointed when he fluffed his lines. A neat player but not too good at playing other players in. Good youth product.
Liz scored a lot of his goals in the air. I trained myself to never expect him to score 1 - 1's, so thus didn't get too disappointed when he fluffed his lines. A neat player but not too good at playing other players in. Good youth product.
Much like me. My Dad always used to tell me it was a good save by the keeper
Moşt of his games under Curbs were as a lone striker at which he did a passable job given he was under 6ft. Playing off someone like Yann he'd have been prolific.
Really? I thought he played a lot of games with Bartlett and Euell around him.
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But unable to link play. Plus as Charlton Bob says a bit brainless. He missed nearly all his one on ones, so I trained myself to expect him not to score. He was brilliant in the Liverpool game though.
But a very decent player on the ball, neat control and and could beat his man.
Paulo di Canio said at the time that Lisbie had the most natural ability of any player then at Charlton.
His big problem was that he panicked in front of goal.
If only he could have trained himself to be steady and composed.
I bet he was a world beater in training.
I suppose that one of the ironies was that his pace got him into situations, where he had time to think about his finishing, and yet when it was when he had time to think that he was at his worst, as he literally seemed to freeze with the ball.
Still we have had a lot worse than 'Super Kev' over the years!
He was the fastest player at the club, (he always won the pre-season competition) but did not have the brains to look along the line to stay onside.
Many strikers are lethal and prolific in the box - but in a 1-on-1, they fluff nearly every time.
IMO the same mentality is needed as when taking a penalty ........ know already how you will approach it and be decisive.
You'll score 9 out of 10.
And the one you miss will be a brilliant save or luck, by the keeper.
And that's just football.
However his finishing was not always the best and he picked up serious injuries at the wrong times which stopped him going as far as he might.
If his finishing was just a bit better and he could have stayed fit (in an injury sense) he would have gone on to far better things than Charlton. The rest of his game was good enough.
The number of one on one's he would fluff were incredible, I used to tell my Dad there's only so many times you can say the keeper made a good save rather than blame Lisbie.
Apart from the Watford away miss which someone else mentioned the other one which stood out for me and summed him up as a player was Sunderland away, we lost 2-3 that day and the game was nearly over, Lisbie dribbled his way into the box from the right wing and made it as far as the six yard box but rather than have a go at goal himself he left the ball to another striker making a run into the box (might have been Bartlett) except the striker also stopped running thinking Lisbie would shoot from that position and in the end both players left the ball to each other and Sunderland were able to clear there lines.
Definitely stayed with us a few years too long.
Curbs obviously saw something in him which a lot of other people did, like myself, but in the end could not help him ( consistently) get the most important part of his game right, and that's sticking it away. His goal per game record for us was very poor, could and should have been a lot better.
I don't know if lisbie did or not but sounds like he should have gone deeper into root of the problem and saw a sports psychologist or something.