I watched the Chelsea story about them winning the champions league.
When the interviewer asked him if he thought he deserved a winners medal, Terry snapped back 100%. Fair enough but he just didn't get it, there is no morality in that man it's just all about him.
I'd argue here that he probably did deserve his medal simply for all the years service he's given to Chelsea. I know he gets stick for celebrating with the team in his kit, but if you look back at videos or photos of them all celebrating, there's also Ramires, Meireiles and Ivanovic jumping around in their full kit too, and they were also suspended. No one ever mentions that though.
thats because they were outstanding in the semi against barca where as terry left them out to dry
If Terry was so affronted by the FA charge (which was on 27 July) why did it take him until almost 2 months later before being so upset at the decision that he found his position 'untenable'? This was a calculated timing, designed to put pressure on the FA. I hope that it has no effect on their decision, one way or the other.
I am glad he is no longer available for England as I feel he is a liabilityon the pitch. Enough has been said about his liability off the pitch.
i think he was made aware that if he is found guilty by the FA then his international career was over so if he quits and is found guilty he can say that him walking out on his country was the reason they found him guilty and if he is found not guilty he has the can refuse to play unless he is apologised to.
My two penny's worth, anyone, whatever thier circumstances who "retires from international football" is dead to me, you answer your countries call regardless and it retires you end of.
A naive attitude to some I am sure but a cornerstone in my world, regardless of talent who the f@*k do these people think they are, I would walk over broken glass to represent my country. Retire from international football my arse...rant over come on England.
PS to put it in some perspective, he has given up a chance to play against Scotland at Wembley next year, it beggers belief.....knob
I've also taken this stance over footballers that 'retire' from playing for England and then carry on playing for years for their club. (I understand they may only be able to do this because they've 'retired' from playing for England) but I agree, the country should be the one to retire them and they should want to play for England until they can no longer run.
Scholes & Shearer are 2 on that list. I wouldn't say they are dead to me, I just can't work them out as human beings at the top of their game why they would give up that opportunity and honour. I can't say I'm surprised that Terry has retired, as I hold him in the same disregard as Scholes & Shearer and this has just justified my thoughts about him.
Ego's before Pride.
Seeing as Scholes is still playing for one of the top teams in the country whilst putting in some good games I doubt he feels any regret in the decision to retire when he did. Plus he has won endless trophies with United and won nothing with England. I am not too keen on national football and couldn't care less if players refuse to play or retire. Also if you play for a club you love then you will want to play for that club for as long as you can if that means sacking off the national team then I would probably do the same.
The only reason Terry retired is he didn't what the embarrassment of being dropped from the team, all his advisors would have suggested retiring to him and took the choice to do so.
i think he was made aware that if he is found guilty by the FA then his international career was over so if he quits and is found guilty he can say that him walking out on his country was the reason they found him guilty and if he is found not guilty he has the can refuse to play unless he is apologised to.
I heard on the radio this morning that Chelsea players have had watches, jewellry and cash stolen from the training ground dressing rooms. Anyone know JT's dads number (or anyone in the family for that matter!)? I could do with a new Rolex!
Terry's gone, Lampard, Gerrard, Parker, Cole, Johnson even Rooney, their careers will soon be over or in the sunset phase. Where are the young players coming through, especially in midfield to replace them ? ... Wilshere, the white ghost ?, Cleverley ? .. I don't think so, Shelvey might make it but lacks that vital yard of pace. Defenders ? .. we're awash with them, but attackers and skilful midfielders ? .. there aren't many about .. too many foreign managers & players hold the critical jobs in our top teams
i think he was made aware that if he is found guilty by the FA then his international career was over so if he quits and is found guilty he can say that him walking out on his country was the reason they found him guilty and if he is found not guilty he has the can refuse to play unless he is apologised to.
Blimey calm down lad, no need for that little outburst...and that isn't exactly his life story btw.
Private joke between me and young David, you ain't in our loop @Draizetrain me old mucker so eff off.
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Simmer down mate, simmer down! Maybe you should make ya little private jokes on a public forum a little easier to follow for everyone else yeah cos when you have a pop like that you just look like a bit of a thug.
Rooney is 26 (27 next month) Glen Johnson just turned 28
So neither of them are in the sunset phase, or even close to having their careers over. They should be at (or approaching) their peak ideally.
True .. Johnson OK .. but Rooney, after almost 10 years as a top player is increasingly injury prone and seems to have lost some zest for the game
Can see Rooney and a few others retiring from international football in a couple of year's time. But Beckham will still make himself available.
It's hard to see where the replacements are going to come from but new players will emerge. We're just at the end of the 'golden generation' - Beckham, Scholes, the Neville brothers, Terry, Lampard, etc. But what did they win? Nothing.
Rooney is 26 (27 next month) Glen Johnson just turned 28
So neither of them are in the sunset phase, or even close to having their careers over. They should be at (or approaching) their peak ideally.
True .. Johnson OK .. but Rooney, after almost 10 years as a top player is increasingly injury prone and seems to have lost some zest for the game
Can see Rooney and a few others retiring from international football in a couple of year's time. But Beckham will still make himself available.
It's hard to see where the replacements are going to come from but new players will emerge. We're just at the end of the 'golden generation' - Beckham, Scholes, the Neville brothers, Terry, Lampard, etc. But what did they win? Nothing.
If only you were joking ! ... being perhaps overly pessimistic, I can see him getting 'the nod' if we don't find some young talent ... on 3rd thoughts though ... nahhhhh
i think he was made aware that if he is found guilty by the FA then his international career was over so if he quits and is found guilty he can say that him walking out on his country was the reason they found him guilty and if he is found not guilty he has the can refuse to play unless he is apologised to.
Blimey calm down lad, no need for that little outburst...and that isn't exactly his life story btw.
Private joke between me and young David, you ain't in our loop @Draizetrain me old mucker so eff off.
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Simmer down mate, simmer down! Maybe you should make ya little private jokes on a public forum a little easier to follow for everyone else yeah cos when you have a pop like that you just look like a bit of a thug.
erm, no they haven't. This has nothing to do with the laws of the land. This is simply a case of a FA panel deciding, on the balance of probabilities, that John Terry broke FA rules.
Your stance is like saying that because a player wasn't found guilty of assault the FA can't issue a retrospective red card for violent conduct.
The FA have shown utter contempt to the law of the land.
What utter rubbish! A fine of one week's wages and a four game ban that will be out of the way within 3 weeks. He's got off very lightly. A shame that it's taken this long into his career for the authorities to finally knock away the veneer!
If the passion of hate some of you had for him translated into a more positive form of passion at The Valley we might generate an atmosphere occasionally.
If the passion of hate some of you had for him translated into a more positive form of passion at The Valley we might generate an atmosphere occasionally.
He's my cousin.
And the relevance of your relationship to Terry, for the purposes of this thread is........what? If you support him, for whatever reason, fine. Others are entitled to take a fundamentally different view. Your reference to translating this view to 'a more positive form of passion at the Valley' is utterly bizarre. In the light of the Suarez punishment Terry seems to have been dealt with very fairly, once the actual decision went against him.
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Of course not, Ashley Cole hasn't retired yet.
I am glad he is no longer available for England as I feel he is a liabilityon the pitch. Enough has been said about his liability off the pitch.
The only reason Terry retired is he didn't what the embarrassment of being dropped from the team, all his advisors would have suggested retiring to him and took the choice to do so.
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Glen Johnson just turned 28
So neither of them are in the sunset phase, or even close to having their careers over. They should be at (or approaching) their peak ideally.
It's hard to see where the replacements are going to come from but new players will emerge. We're just at the end of the 'golden generation' - Beckham, Scholes, the Neville brothers, Terry, Lampard, etc. But what did they win? Nothing.
If only you were joking ! ... being perhaps overly pessimistic, I can see him getting 'the nod' if we don't find some young talent ... on 3rd thoughts though ... nahhhhh
4 match ban and £220,000 fine
ouch !! .. mind you 220K ..... that's probably a few quid he keeps in the sock drawer for emergencies
Your stance is like saying that because a player wasn't found guilty of assault the FA can't issue a retrospective red card for violent conduct.
He's my cousin.
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