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Charge to use Blackwall Tunnel

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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,270

    Conveniently shut the other day due to a "technical issue".

    Probably reccying the thing out for where to put the toll cameras
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    So an extra £40 a week for somebody to get to work who lives south of the river and works north. will put people off applying for jobs, companies have a smaller pool of people to choose from and therefore less likely to get the best person for the job. Really dumb
  • Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    Don’t think that is correct, the one thing that is correct, is people living in the west of London can cross the river for free.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,127
    Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    Don’t think that is correct, the one thing that is correct, is people living in the west of London can cross the river for free.
    It may be free but it’s never bloody easy I can promise you that
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    There are discounts for those with low incomes in local boroughs either side of the river.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    Don’t think that is correct, the one thing that is correct, is people living in the west of London can cross the river for free.
    What don't you think is correct ?

    From what I've read the charge will be between 7am and 10am going northwards and between 4pm & 7pm going southward. 

    IE. If you live south of the river & need to cross the Thames by the Blackwall Tunnel in the morning then you are charged but not if you are travelling north to south. Then in the evening the opposite happens.

    That is discrimateray . 
  • Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    Don’t think that is correct, the one thing that is correct, is people living in the west of London can cross the river for free.
    What don't you think is correct ?

    From what I've read the charge will be between 7am and 10am going northwards and between 4pm & 7pm going southward. 

    IE. If you live south of the river & need to cross the Thames by the Blackwall Tunnel in the morning then you are charged but not if you are travelling north to south. Then in the evening the opposite happens.

    That is discrimateray . 
    I read it as  those times are peak and charged extra, other than that you pay a normal toll? 🤷🏻‍♂️
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  • Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    Don’t think that is correct, the one thing that is correct, is people living in the west of London can cross the river for free.
    What don't you think is correct ?

    From what I've read the charge will be between 7am and 10am going northwards and between 4pm & 7pm going southward. 

    IE. If you live south of the river & need to cross the Thames by the Blackwall Tunnel in the morning then you are charged but not if you are travelling north to south. Then in the evening the opposite happens.

    That is discrimateray . 
    I read it as  those times are peak and charged extra, other than that you pay a normal toll? 🤷🏻‍♂️
    In other words, a South London Tax.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Emailed my MP.

    Got a reply back that as it's an TFL issue then it comes under the auspices of my London Assembly member.

    Great. What do we pay these clowns for. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    Don’t think that is correct, the one thing that is correct, is people living in the west of London can cross the river for free.
    What don't you think is correct ?

    From what I've read the charge will be between 7am and 10am going northwards and between 4pm & 7pm going southward. 

    IE. If you live south of the river & need to cross the Thames by the Blackwall Tunnel in the morning then you are charged but not if you are travelling north to south. Then in the evening the opposite happens.

    That is discrimateray . 
    I read it as  those times are peak and charged extra, other than that you pay a normal toll? 🤷🏻‍♂️
    You still dont get it....unless you're just trying to wind me up.
  • Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    Don’t think that is correct, the one thing that is correct, is people living in the west of London can cross the river for free.
    What don't you think is correct ?

    From what I've read the charge will be between 7am and 10am going northwards and between 4pm & 7pm going southward. 

    IE. If you live south of the river & need to cross the Thames by the Blackwall Tunnel in the morning then you are charged but not if you are travelling north to south. Then in the evening the opposite happens.

    That is discrimateray . 
    I read it as  those times are peak and charged extra, other than that you pay a normal toll? 🤷🏻‍♂️
    You still dont get it....unless you're just trying to wind me up.
    I think your point is there is effectively no ‘peak’ time concept for those going in the opposite direction to the majority of users. 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,638
    edited November 2024
    Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    Don’t think that is correct, the one thing that is correct, is people living in the west of London can cross the river for free.
    What don't you think is correct ?

    From what I've read the charge will be between 7am and 10am going northwards and between 4pm & 7pm going southward. 

    IE. If you live south of the river & need to cross the Thames by the Blackwall Tunnel in the morning then you are charged but not if you are travelling north to south. Then in the evening the opposite happens.

    That is discrimateray . 
    I read it as  those times are peak and charged extra, other than that you pay a normal toll? 🤷🏻‍♂️
    You still dont get it....unless you're just trying to wind me up.
    Wasn’t trying to wind you up, I’ve had a stomach bug for a few days, have eaten very little, have gotten brain fog.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    Don’t think that is correct, the one thing that is correct, is people living in the west of London can cross the river for free.
    What don't you think is correct ?

    From what I've read the charge will be between 7am and 10am going northwards and between 4pm & 7pm going southward. 

    IE. If you live south of the river & need to cross the Thames by the Blackwall Tunnel in the morning then you are charged but not if you are travelling north to south. Then in the evening the opposite happens.

    That is discrimateray . 
    I read it as  those times are peak and charged extra, other than that you pay a normal toll? 🤷🏻‍♂️
    You still dont get it....unless you're just trying to wind me up.
    I think your point is there is effectively no ‘peak’ time concept for those going in the opposite direction to the majority of users. 
    What I'm saying is that "peak time" hours are one way only - northbound in the morning & southbound in the evening.

    Now assuming you use the Blackwell Tunnel to get to work then if you live South of the river (and travel north) then you are charged more than if you live North of the river (and travel south). 

    That is discriminatory. And I intend to fight it. 
  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,973
    I guess it will not lead to greater use of Rotherhithe tunnel or Tower bridge as there would be  no money saved in doing so.
  • Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    Don’t think that is correct, the one thing that is correct, is people living in the west of London can cross the river for free.
    What don't you think is correct ?

    From what I've read the charge will be between 7am and 10am going northwards and between 4pm & 7pm going southward. 

    IE. If you live south of the river & need to cross the Thames by the Blackwall Tunnel in the morning then you are charged but not if you are travelling north to south. Then in the evening the opposite happens.

    That is discrimateray . 
    I read it as  those times are peak and charged extra, other than that you pay a normal toll? 🤷🏻‍♂️
    You still dont get it....unless you're just trying to wind me up.
    I think your point is there is effectively no ‘peak’ time concept for those going in the opposite direction to the majority of users. 
    What I'm saying is that "peak time" hours are one way only - northbound in the morning & southbound in the evening.

    Now assuming you use the Blackwell Tunnel to get to work then if you live South of the river (and travel north) then you are charged more than if you live North of the river (and travel south). 

    That is discriminatory. And I intend to fight it. 
    So as I said. 

    Good luck with your complaint but I fear given TFL track record on such things it’s a lost cause. ☹️
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    The London Assembly member for Lewisham and Greenwich is Len Duvall - len.duvall@london.gov.uk
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    PopIcon said:
    Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    The London Assembly member for Lewisham and Greenwich is Len Duvall - len.duvall@london.gov.uk
    I'm in Bromley. Do I speak to my one or the one that cover the tunnel. 


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  • Badger said:
    He looks different without his beard in that picture 🙂
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    edited November 2024
    PopIcon said:
    Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    The London Assembly member for  its Lewisham and Greenwich is Len Duvall - len.duvall@london.gov.uk
    I'm in Bromley. Do I speak to my one or the one that cover the tunnel. 


    It's Thomas Turrell for Bromley and Bexley, i don't know his email, but i'd guess it's thomas.turrell@london.gov.uk
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Badger said:
    I like the reason why there has to be a charge for the Blackwell Tunnel as well - because if there was only a charge for the Silvertown Tunnel then no one would use it.

    M6 & M6 Toll. Only charged to use the Toll Rd & not for the existing M6.

    So a precedent has been set. Well done TFL. 
  • As per the link above there will be some crumbs from the table to feel good about. 

    Of the 100,000 daily users there'll be about 57 people who can benefit from them.  
  • stevexreeve
    stevexreeve Posts: 1,386
    Still cant see how they can get away with charging people south of the river twice (there & back) but those living north of the river dont get charged at all. 

    Time to speak to my MP.
    Don’t think that is correct, the one thing that is correct, is people living in the west of London can cross the river for free.
    What don't you think is correct ?

    From what I've read the charge will be between 7am and 10am going northwards and between 4pm & 7pm going southward. 

    IE. If you live south of the river & need to cross the Thames by the Blackwall Tunnel in the morning then you are charged but not if you are travelling north to south. Then in the evening the opposite happens.

    That is discrimateray . 
    I read it as  those times are peak and charged extra, other than that you pay a normal toll? 🤷🏻‍♂️
    You still dont get it....unless you're just trying to wind me up.
    I think your point is there is effectively no ‘peak’ time concept for those going in the opposite direction to the majority of users. 
    What I'm saying is that "peak time" hours are one way only - northbound in the morning & southbound in the evening.

    Now assuming you use the Blackwell Tunnel to get to work then if you live South of the river (and travel north) then you are charged more than if you live North of the river (and travel south). 

    That is discriminatory. And I intend to fight it. 
    I completely agree with your logic but be careful!

    Our whole railway system works this way. If you live in Guildford and work in London you have to pay silly money to get to work. But if you live in London and work in Guildford, the fare is at least reasonable.

    No one seems to question the logic of this and certainly wouldn't regard it as "discriminatory"!

    Removing peak hour tolls and fares would result in more people attempting to work. (I thought this was a government "priority").

    This might actually lead the government to actually do something about the congestion and overcrowding rather than just pricing people out of going to work.
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,185
    Number plates will be missing, cloned, digits altered , anti reflective materials and hidden behind all manner of accessories. 

  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    Number plates will be missing, cloned, digits altered , anti reflective materials and hidden behind all manner of accessories. 

    If you're a regular user doing any of this the Police will get you.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Funny how the phone story emerged after she put the boot into P&O and their free market capitalist employment practices.
    Naughty though. But no Michelle Mone.