Poor people being interviewed on CNN with family members who have lost limbs, worried about how they will pay for the medical bills resulting from the treatment due to the events!!
So, basically, not the two fellas that had their mugs plastered all over Twitter last night then? Lovely old job. The internet strikes again.
It was not just 2 - pictures of at least 6 or 7 different potential suspects were posted on the internet over the last few days. Several of these people contacted the police/FBI to establish their innocence.
MIT Campus officer shot dead on campus last night. Then it sounds like they found the bombing suspects
BOSTON -- Police exchanged gunfire with a pair of suspects in a nearby suburb early Friday, and the Boston Globe reported they had captured one of the men wanted in connection with the marathon bombing Monday.
A massive police response, including FBI agents and the National Guard, was seen in the post-midnight hours in the city of Watertown, with gunshots and explosions heard. Police could be seen with guns drawn one one man face down on a paved street.
That confrontation came after a Massachusetts Institute of Technology campus police officer was shot and killed around 10:30 p.m. Thursday night at the school's campus, authorities said.
The Globe cited an official with knowledge of the investigation as saying one suspect in the marathon bombing had been captured and another remained on the loose after the Watertown firefight.
The rapidly moving events unfolded overnight as the entire Boston metro area was on high alert following Monday's fatal bomb explosions during the Boston Marathon and as the FBI was leading a massive manhunt for suspects. The developments came on a day when the FBI issued photographs of two men that it said it is seeking and were seen in surveillance video carrying backpacks in the marathon race crowd on Monday before the twin explosions.
Video from WCVB-TV showed police officers with guns drawn and apparently giving orders to a man face down on the street in Watertown.
An explosion could be heard, and police ordered journalists and spectators to move far back. Multiple police agencies were represented at the scene. Officers said they were looking for another suspect.
"I heard sirens, then a ton of gunshots.,'' said Adam Healy, 31, a behavioral specialist for autism who lives less than a mile from the scene. "And then I heard an explosion amid the gunshots. After the explosion, the sky lit up. "
Dan MacDonald, 40, sitting in a second story Watertown apartment, said he first heard sirens, then gunshots.
"It was about 10 to 15 shots. then there was an onslaught," he said. "There were 25 to 60 shots within 45 seconds. Then the shots stopped and boom. It was like dynamite."
After a loud boom, police pushed spectators and media back more than 200 yards from the scene. More Boston Police in armored vests arrived, along with a special operations truck, SWAT vehicle and police dogs.
Police told residents to stay in their homes.
Stephanie Guyotte, spokeswoman for the Middlesex District Attorney's office, said the situation in Watertown was still unfolding and she had no information on the suspect
no idea what the agenda was--- but the video looked just looked like those four utter scum bags getting on the train at Luton station prior to undertaking the slaughter of 7/7---the ruck sacks the walking with total purpose.
So, basically, not the two fellas that had their mugs plastered all over Twitter last night then? Lovely old job. The internet strikes again.
It was not just 2 - pictures of at least 6 or 7 different potential suspects were posted on the internet over the last few days. Several of these people contacted the police/FBI to establish their innocence.
Apparently one of them 'acting suspiciously with a radio' was a policeman! And the 'eerie' man on the roof was, erm, a bloke on a roof.
Seems the police have done the jobs themselves very quickly with no need for stupid speculation and guesswork.
So, basically, not the two fellas that had their mugs plastered all over Twitter last night then? Lovely old job. The internet strikes again.
It was not just 2 - pictures of at least 6 or 7 different potential suspects were posted on the internet over the last few days. Several of these people contacted the police/FBI to establish their innocence.
Apparently one of them 'acting suspiciously with a radio' was a policeman! And the 'eerie' man on the roof was, DRM, a bloke on a roof.
Seems the police have done the jobs themselves very quickly with no need for stupid speculation and guesswork.
It's the same phenomenon that fucks up a lot of murder enquiries - people saying "ooooh yeah, I remember someone acting suspiciously around that time" or "that bloke that lives up the road is a weirdo, I'll waste hours of police time getting them to track him 'cos I'm convinced it was him wot dunnit". It's just that with Facebook and (particularly) Twitter, all these idiots speculatin give themselves a platform to spread the shit around the internet between themselves. Proper winds me up.
So, basically, not the two fellas that had their mugs plastered all over Twitter last night then? Lovely old job. The internet strikes again.
It was not just 2 - pictures of at least 6 or 7 different potential suspects were posted on the internet over the last few days. Several of these people contacted the police/FBI to establish their innocence.
Seems the police have done the jobs themselves very quickly with no need for stupid speculation and guesswork.
Disagree. I think the explosion of CCTV, camera phones and social media allowing the quick dissemination of information and pictures is a massive weapon to help free societies to protect themselves from these types of terrorists. It acts as a deterrent and helps in the eventual capture of the perpetrators.
Many pictures of innocent people were published. I would doubt any of these people, if they are innocent, would feel their civil rights or whatever have been infringed. It is an unfortunate byproduct of a free society's fight against dark forces that threaten that freedom.
Many of these people presented themselves to the police thus saving police time if police did decide they would like to speak to an individual in one of the photos/ images on CCTV or sent to them by members of the public.
The one important caveat I would stress is that it is only acceptable to post pictures of individuals on the internet when it is directly related to a situation where a crime has been committed and police have asked the public to send them any images that might be suspicious or be of help in the investigation.
So, basically, not the two fellas that had their mugs plastered all over Twitter last night then? Lovely old job. The internet strikes again.
It was not just 2 - pictures of at least 6 or 7 different potential suspects were posted on the internet over the last few days. Several of these people contacted the police/FBI to establish their innocence.
Seems the police have done the jobs themselves very quickly with no need for stupid speculation and guesswork.
Disagree. I think the explosion of CCTV, camera phones and social media allowing the quick dissemination of information and pictures is a massive weapon to help free societies to protect themselves from these types of terrorists. It acts as a deterrent and helps in the eventual capture of the perpetrators.
Many pictures of innocent people were published. I would doubt any of these people, if they are innocent, would feel their civil rights or whatever have been infringed. It is an unfortunate byproduct of a free society's fight against dark forces that threaten that freedom.
Many of these people presented themselves to the police thus saving police time if police did decide they would like to speak to an individual in one of the photos/ images on CCTV or sent to them by members of the public.
The one important caveat I would stress is that it is only acceptable to post pictures of individuals on the internet when it is directly related to a situation where a crime has been committed and police have asked the public to send them any images that might be suspicious or be of help in the investigation.
So you think it's right to try people by the court of mob opinion? I wonder if you'd feel the same way if it was your face that was plastered all over the internet and had to basically turn yourself in to the gavvers for fear of them crashing your front door in and putting a bullet in your head otherwise? Personally, I'd rather not have the trouble and hassle of having to go to the cops and tell them I didn't blow up so-and-so event - I just happened to be there enjoying it, whilst being a bit foreign looking and carrying a rucksack.
If you really think that social media (or the traditional media, for that matter) is helping the police, try asking them what it's like running a murder enquiry now that everyone has a platform available to them that allows them to shout their 'theories' loud to everyone. The amount of resources they have to dedicate to every crackpot who fancies themselves as Columbo is a massive detriment to any proper investigation - and, last I looked, it was the police that identified these two douchebags, rather than some hipster with his fucking iPhone.
So, basically, not the two fellas that had their mugs plastered all over Twitter last night then? Lovely old job. The internet strikes again.
It was not just 2 - pictures of at least 6 or 7 different potential suspects were posted on the internet over the last few days. Several of these people contacted the police/FBI to establish their innocence.
Seems the police have done the jobs themselves very quickly with no need for stupid speculation and guesswork.
Many pictures of innocent people were published. I would doubt any of these people, if they are innocent, would feel their civil rights or whatever have been infringed. It is an unfortunate byproduct of a free society's fight against dark forces that threaten that freedom.
That is ridiculous.
I'm sure you would change your mind if you were incorrectly named / or your picture plastered all over the internet for some heinous crime, leaving you open to potential vigilante attacks, sustained bullying or lasting whisper campaigns / association. No smoke without fire they say. S**t sticks.
So, basically, not the two fellas that had their mugs plastered all over Twitter last night then? Lovely old job. The internet strikes again.
It was not just 2 - pictures of at least 6 or 7 different potential suspects were posted on the internet over the last few days. Several of these people contacted the police/FBI to establish their innocence.
Seems the police have done the jobs themselves very quickly with no need for stupid speculation and guesswork.
Disagree. I think the explosion of CCTV, camera phones and social media allowing the quick dissemination of information and pictures is a massive weapon to help free societies to protect themselves from these types of terrorists. It acts as a deterrent and helps in the eventual capture of the perpetrators.
Many pictures of innocent people were published. I would doubt any of these people, if they are innocent, would feel their civil rights or whatever have been infringed. It is an unfortunate byproduct of a free society's fight against dark forces that threaten that freedom.
Many of these people presented themselves to the police thus saving police time if police did decide they would like to speak to an individual in one of the photos/ images on CCTV or sent to them by members of the public.
The one important caveat I would stress is that it is only acceptable to post pictures of individuals on the internet when it is directly related to a situation where a crime has been committed and police have asked the public to send them any images that might be suspicious or be of help in the investigation.
So send them to the police - I agree that modern camera phones etc can be very helpful. Don't post the pictures all over social media sites claiming you've cracked the case etc, inviting any wannabe vigilantes out there to take an interest.
So, basically, not the two fellas that had their mugs plastered all over Twitter last night then? Lovely old job. The internet strikes again.
It was not just 2 - pictures of at least 6 or 7 different potential suspects were posted on the internet over the last few days. Several of these people contacted the police/FBI to establish their innocence.
Seems the police have done the jobs themselves very quickly with no need for stupid speculation and guesswork.
Many pictures of innocent people were published. I would doubt any of these people, if they are innocent, would feel their civil rights or whatever have been infringed. It is an unfortunate byproduct of a free society's fight against dark forces that threaten that freedom.
That is ridiculous.
I'm sure you would change your mind if you were incorrectly named / or your picture plastered all over the internet for some heinous crime, leaving you open to potential vigilante attacks, sustained bullying or lasting whisper campaigns / association. No smoke without fire they say. S**t sticks.
If I was present at the Boston marathon carrying a black rucksack and the police confirmed that the bomb had been carried to the bomb site in a black rucksack I would fully expect to have any images taken of me published on the Internet.
Without CCTV and modern monitoring equipment, these two bombers would still be at large .. to state the bleedin obvious, there is a fine line between big brother and benevolent brother .. close monitoring of many aspects of life from CCTV to supermarket loyalty cards does concern me .. BUT, when it comes to crime prevention and detection, given the increase in crime and the availability of things to steal, vandalise and destroy, without monitoring, I believe that 'modern life' would be even more precarious than it actually is. But bear in mind of course that victims of really violent and terrible crime are few and far between
I despair sometimes. Every time I hear the 'if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear' argument trotted out it makes me want to weep. I've got PLENTY to hide. It's called my own private life thanks - I don't want to have to justify my existence simply because I might look a bit darker skinned than most people - nor do I want my choice in luggage called into question by all and sundry simply because I 'might' be carrying a bomb in it.
To take the analogy a bit further, say one of those poor fuckers who had their pictures posted on Twitter was completely unaware of it, and got identified by a neighbour. If the Police took it seriously, then quite literally the first thing he might know of it would be ten blokes with firearms pointing in his face as he woke up in the morning. Now say that bloke was having an affair. Or was gay and sleeping with his boyfriend at the time. There are now ten people - in authority - who know about the affair, or his hitherto safely-guarded sexuality - to his no doubt acute embarrassment. Do you think that's acceptable, simply because some completely unqualified twats suspect he might be a terrorist?
Apparently the Boston bomb suspects are from Russia region near Chechnya, lived in US at least 1 year
Has that been confirmed officially as otherwise it could be a dangerous thing to state.
CCTV etc is a good thing IMHO.
It's not the monitoring or filming that people have a problem with in this case.
Rather it is putting up images and naming people as the bombers on little or no evidence.
The missing poster posted above is a month old. How must his family feel to have a son missing and now for people all over the world calling him a terrorist when it isn't even clear if he is a suspect.
Modern life isn't precarious at all. Every year, your risk of being killed before your time drops exponentially. The only reason you think modern life is precarious is because the media (who have a vested interest in you believing it) tell you that it is. You want to know where modern life IS precarious? Iraq. Afghanistan. Iran. 95% of Africa. Palestine.
Apparently the Boston bomb suspects are from Russia region near Chechnya, lived in US at least 1 year
worrying, many Chechnyans are radical muslims, radicalised by the Soviet Union .. Chechnya of course was made wasteland by the Russians not too long ago. The USA may be an easier and more headline catching target that Russia
Comments
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22195495
Very close to Waco and almost on the anniversary of the end of the Waco siege:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
There's no word yet on whether this was terrorism or an accident.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=M80DXI932OE
From that he went missing in March so not sure what the connection is.
BBC not reporting anyone as being named as yet. Seems the two people have been named on twitter etc but very unsafe.
From BBC News
Seems the police have done the jobs themselves very quickly with no need for stupid speculation and guesswork.
Many pictures of innocent people were published. I would doubt any of these people, if they are innocent, would feel their civil rights or whatever have been infringed. It is an unfortunate byproduct of a free society's fight against dark forces that threaten that freedom.
Many of these people presented themselves to the police thus saving police time if police did decide they would like to speak to an individual in one of the photos/ images on CCTV or sent to them by members of the public.
The one important caveat I would stress is that it is only acceptable to post pictures of individuals on the internet when it is directly related to a situation where a crime has been committed and police have asked the public to send them any images that might be suspicious or be of help in the investigation.
If you really think that social media (or the traditional media, for that matter) is helping the police, try asking them what it's like running a murder enquiry now that everyone has a platform available to them that allows them to shout their 'theories' loud to everyone. The amount of resources they have to dedicate to every crackpot who fancies themselves as Columbo is a massive detriment to any proper investigation - and, last I looked, it was the police that identified these two douchebags, rather than some hipster with his fucking iPhone.
So this one suspect could be holding a family hostage already?
I'm sure you would change your mind if you were incorrectly named / or your picture plastered all over the internet for some heinous crime, leaving you open to potential vigilante attacks, sustained bullying or lasting whisper campaigns / association. No smoke without fire they say. S**t sticks.
http://www.thecraft.com/
If true,you have to wonder why they were observing that day.
To take the analogy a bit further, say one of those poor fuckers who had their pictures posted on Twitter was completely unaware of it, and got identified by a neighbour. If the Police took it seriously, then quite literally the first thing he might know of it would be ten blokes with firearms pointing in his face as he woke up in the morning. Now say that bloke was having an affair. Or was gay and sleeping with his boyfriend at the time. There are now ten people - in authority - who know about the affair, or his hitherto safely-guarded sexuality - to his no doubt acute embarrassment. Do you think that's acceptable, simply because some completely unqualified twats suspect he might be a terrorist?
It's a witch-hunt - plain and simple.
CCTV etc is a good thing IMHO.
It's not the monitoring or filming that people have a problem with in this case.
Rather it is putting up images and naming people as the bombers on little or no evidence.
The missing poster posted above is a month old. How must his family feel to have a son missing and now for people all over the world calling him a terrorist when it isn't even clear if he is a suspect.