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  • Saga Lout said:

    Happened to be in Crayford for NYE - no problems there apparently - I was in the Crayford Arms, which is opposite the Dukes Head and just up the road from the Bear & Ragged Staff - crisis, whaT crisis?

    And not forgetting the Penny Farthing, Crayford's Micropub.
  • Riviera said:

    Riviera said:

    As a bitter drinker I think the future may be the micro-pub. I was in Tankerton last night and one has recently opened there. My parents live there and my Dad and brother had been enthusing about it. I must admit I was a bit sceptical about it but was pleasantly surprised. No music, no TV, no cooked food, no mobiles, no fruit machines. no spirits and NO LAGER! Just ale, mostly local independent stuff and real local ciders plus limited wine. It's not a micro-brewery, just basically a room that serves bloody good beer and the emphisis is on local people socialising. All a bit middle aged and middle class but then I guess that's me!

    http://www.thetankertonarms.co.uk/about/index.html

    In fact I liked it so much I opened one myself!
    I'll be popping into your East End bar on Friday to celebrate my birthday.
  • Here's the problem:

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    Two identical hand pumps serving the same mass-produced, watered-down version of a once good beer.
  • Riviera said:

    Saga Lout said:

    Happened to be in Crayford for NYE - no problems there apparently - I was in the Crayford Arms, which is opposite the Dukes Head and just up the road from the Bear & Ragged Staff - crisis, whaT crisis?

    And not forgetting the Penny Farthing, Crayford's Micropub.
    Quite right - I only mentioned the pubs I saw in a very small area on NYE lol!
  • The Black Dog in Whitstable is worth a visit.
  • So is the Handsome Sam further up the road.
  • I was mightily impressed by my first visit to Riviera's micropub, the Long Pond, after the game on Saturday. It's an intimate and convivial place that was extremely busy at 8 p.m.: Riviera and his son were continuously occupied with drawing ales from the cask in the cool room, visible through a swing-door behind the counter. My pal enjoyed a Westerham beer, while I got stuck in to Dudda's Tun 'Disco' cider: a healthy 5.3 per cent ABV, almost colourless in appearance, and tasting delicious.

    Another pub well worth a visit in Eltham is the Park Tavern, just off the High Street, with an old Truman's tiled frontage and Arts & Crafts carved oak furniture within. Vases of lilies on the counter, and jazz and classical music turned low; half-a-dozen ales on handpump including tasty Skinner's Betty Stogs.
  • Had a visit to the Long Pond the other day, enjoyed most of the beers and was surprised at how busy it was. Hope it keeps up that way, clearly a lot of thought has gone into the place.


  • Another pub well worth a visit in Eltham is the Park Tavern, just off the High Street, with an old Truman's tiled frontage and Arts & Crafts carved oak furniture within. Vases of lilies on the counter, and jazz and classical music turned low; half-a-dozen ales on handpump including tasty Skinner's Betty Stogs.

    Betty Stogs is a very decent delicately hopped beer brewed in Truro.
    At 4%, it makes an easy drinking session beer.

    Skinners was established less than 20 years ago.
    Well regarded in Cornwall for its range of beers.


    Anyway, I like it!

  • The Black Dog in Whitstable is worth a visit.

    I've walked past that pub every day over the last year on the way to work and it always looks nice when I look through the window, however I've never been in there. People I know who have been in there have said it is very good.

    Will definitely pop in there next time I'm out and about
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  • I thought Mr Corbett wouldn't allow pubs on his estate?
  • edited January 2015

    I thought Mr Corbett wouldn't allow pubs on his estate?


    Planning and licencing applications are now dealt with under the Town and Country Planning Act 1990 and the Licencing Act 2003 (implemented 2005) respectively and neither of these legislative processes take historical restrictive covenants on land into consideration. Before the 2003 act, licences were granted by local magistrates and all objections were considered and such covenants would certainly have been one of them. The new law has streamlined the licencing process and the decision now lies with the local authority, in this case Royal Greenwich. Now the applicant has to convince the council that they will uphold the four licencing objectives:

    1) Prevention of crime and disorder
    2) Public safety
    3) Prevention of public nuisance
    4) Protection of children from harm

    If this is satisfied and the police have no issue with the applicant personally a licence will be granted.
  • Riviera said:

    Riviera said:

    As a bitter drinker I think the future may be the micro-pub. I was in Tankerton last night and one has recently opened there. My parents live there and my Dad and brother had been enthusing about it. I must admit I was a bit sceptical about it but was pleasantly surprised. No music, no TV, no cooked food, no mobiles, no fruit machines. no spirits and NO LAGER! Just ale, mostly local independent stuff and real local ciders plus limited wine. It's not a micro-brewery, just basically a room that serves bloody good beer and the emphisis is on local people socialising. All a bit middle aged and middle class but then I guess that's me!

    http://www.thetankertonarms.co.uk/about/index.html

    In fact I liked it so much I opened one myself!
    I'll be popping into your East End bar on Friday to celebrate my birthday.
    I'm coming friday as well with a load of birds . What time are you open Riv ?
  • Stig said:

    Here's the problem:

    image

    Two identical hand pumps serving the same mass-produced, watered-down version of a once good beer.

    Was about to post the same! Bloody Doom Bore.
  • EastStand said:

    Stig said:

    Here's the problem:

    image

    Two identical hand pumps serving the same mass-produced, watered-down version of a once good beer.

    Was about to post the same! Bloody Doom Bore.
    Pray do tell me what pub in Charlton is selling this fabulous beer, that you apparently consume pre-match.......
    I will check it out......
  • Shag said:

    Riviera said:

    Riviera said:

    As a bitter drinker I think the future may be the micro-pub. I was in Tankerton last night and one has recently opened there. My parents live there and my Dad and brother had been enthusing about it. I must admit I was a bit sceptical about it but was pleasantly surprised. No music, no TV, no cooked food, no mobiles, no fruit machines. no spirits and NO LAGER! Just ale, mostly local independent stuff and real local ciders plus limited wine. It's not a micro-brewery, just basically a room that serves bloody good beer and the emphisis is on local people socialising. All a bit middle aged and middle class but then I guess that's me!

    http://www.thetankertonarms.co.uk/about/index.html

    In fact I liked it so much I opened one myself!
    I'll be popping into your East End bar on Friday to celebrate my birthday.
    I'm coming friday as well with a load of birds . What time are you open Riv ?
    11.30am-2.30pm & 5pm-11pm.
  • Shag said:

    Riviera said:

    Riviera said:

    As a bitter drinker I think the future may be the micro-pub. I was in Tankerton last night and one has recently opened there. My parents live there and my Dad and brother had been enthusing about it. I must admit I was a bit sceptical about it but was pleasantly surprised. No music, no TV, no cooked food, no mobiles, no fruit machines. no spirits and NO LAGER! Just ale, mostly local independent stuff and real local ciders plus limited wine. It's not a micro-brewery, just basically a room that serves bloody good beer and the emphisis is on local people socialising. All a bit middle aged and middle class but then I guess that's me!

    http://www.thetankertonarms.co.uk/about/index.html

    In fact I liked it so much I opened one myself!
    I'll be popping into your East End bar on Friday to celebrate my birthday.
    I'm coming friday as well with a load of birds . What time are you open Riv ?
    Well we know this to be a lie as you dont know a load of birds.. plus you only drink Stella.

    I may very well pop in straight after work on Friday for a few pre birthday birthday drinks... Dry January... i laugh in your face!


  • edited January 2015
    See , all I have to do is mention I'm going and birds turn up !

    Already had 4 PM's as well
  • edited January 2015
    You can count Tavern as a bird too.
  • Shag said:


    Already had 4 PM's as well

    One from GHE and three different ones from Paulie.
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  • One was from Tav
  • The place is wall-to-wall Birds on a Friday night.....
  • Riviera said:

    Some of you may know the White Hart at Liverpool Street. Alan Sugar's company, Amsprop, is recreating it as an office block..
    http://spitalfieldslife.com/2014/12/30/elegy-for-the-white-hart/

    Knew it as the 199 in my city days. Nothing special to be honest, just a typical station pub full of Essex boys having a couple of Carlings before catching the train home.
    thanks for the above

    i think it got outdone eventually by the hamilton hall for above purpose but a great shame that its going ..thought the new planning would have been a little more sympathetic to the history of the site

    used to have afters there downstairs in the 80s

  • Shag said:

    Riviera said:

    Riviera said:

    As a bitter drinker I think the future may be the micro-pub. I was in Tankerton last night and one has recently opened there. My parents live there and my Dad and brother had been enthusing about it. I must admit I was a bit sceptical about it but was pleasantly surprised. No music, no TV, no cooked food, no mobiles, no fruit machines. no spirits and NO LAGER! Just ale, mostly local independent stuff and real local ciders plus limited wine. It's not a micro-brewery, just basically a room that serves bloody good beer and the emphisis is on local people socialising. All a bit middle aged and middle class but then I guess that's me!

    http://www.thetankertonarms.co.uk/about/index.html

    In fact I liked it so much I opened one myself!
    I'll be popping into your East End bar on Friday to celebrate my birthday.
    I'm coming friday as well with a load of birds .
    I will be adorning an abundance of Kouros and hair gel in preperation
  • Curb_It said:

    Shag said:

    Riviera said:

    Riviera said:

    As a bitter drinker I think the future may be the micro-pub. I was in Tankerton last night and one has recently opened there. My parents live there and my Dad and brother had been enthusing about it. I must admit I was a bit sceptical about it but was pleasantly surprised. No music, no TV, no cooked food, no mobiles, no fruit machines. no spirits and NO LAGER! Just ale, mostly local independent stuff and real local ciders plus limited wine. It's not a micro-brewery, just basically a room that serves bloody good beer and the emphisis is on local people socialising. All a bit middle aged and middle class but then I guess that's me!

    http://www.thetankertonarms.co.uk/about/index.html

    In fact I liked it so much I opened one myself!
    I'll be popping into your East End bar on Friday to celebrate my birthday.
    I'm coming friday as well with a load of birds . What time are you open Riv ?
    Well we know this to be a lie as you dont know a load of birds.. plus you only drink Stella.

    I may very well pop in straight after work on Friday for a few pre birthday birthday drinks... Dry January... i laugh in your face!


    Dry January Pah! We are promoting this at The Long Pond http://www.tryanuary.co.uk/
  • Looks like there could be an impromptu Charlton life drink after work Friday.
  • Curb_It said:

    Looks like there could be an impromptu Charlton life drink after work Friday.

    See you in there B!
  • yes you will now... now that I know who you are!
  • Retox not Detox
  • the hope in carshalton is magnificent
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