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Roulette machines in the bookies

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    i knew of someone who worked in a casino and could spin it in to a 1/4 of the wheel not as good as 3 numbers but they said they would aim it away from a punters bets if they were getting on their nerves
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    I've been in gambling for more than half a century, i've done them all and have a lot to say; I'll limit my arguments to roulette, my speciality;
    Yes, a skillful croupier could place the ball within a quarter of the wheel. Not any more since the balls'weights were reduced about 15 years ago,
    so they keep bouncing before settling down. Your safest bet is playing the outside bets only, (red/black, odd/even, high/low), avoiding dozens
    and columns (no return when zero comes up) and never ever play on two zero tables - house edge is doubled.
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    No real system, yet not random.

    If the machines are on a time when they "want to pay out" then the machines that have "20p roulette" will hit certain numbers withing every 7 spins
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    The bookmakers have been trying to get these machines into poorer areas for many years. They are ruining people's lives. Was sad that the Labour Party were behind the deregulation.
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    These machines are the crack cocaine of the high street.

    Avoid.
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    I thought that just like fruit machines they were set to pay out a set percentage?
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    Only played it once, stuck £1 in and came back with £4 from about a minutes play. The online ones are where the money is won though.

    2 of my mates can normally go to a slot machine, stick about £5 in and come out £150+ richer, they did try teaching me but it's something I couldn't get my head around as it all happened too fast.
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    2 of my mates can normally go to a slot machine, stick about £5 in and come out £150+ richer, they did try teaching me but it's something I couldn't get my head around as it all happened too fast.

    Absolute rubbish. If that was true then they'd be millionaires by now.
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    Off_it said:



    2 of my mates can normally go to a slot machine, stick about £5 in and come out £150+ richer, they did try teaching me but it's something I couldn't get my head around as it all happened too fast.

    Absolute rubbish. If that was true then they'd be millionaires by now.
    I've seen them stick £10 in and lose it all, I spose it depends on how the last peoples on it games go
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    I doubt they are totally random. There will be a percentage win rate that can probably be adjusted. A friend said he tested once by putting a pound on black and and a pound on red at the same time and got the green zero. He said he might have been unlucky but thought it meant there was something else going on rather than randomness.
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    Was in a boozer in Leicester Sq a few years back with an ex oppo. He decided to put a tennner in the fruity, after spending about 3 quid of his credit some lad came up to him and said that he was about to play the machine but was waiting at the bar to get change from a twenty, my mate said he could play after him, but this geezer wouldn't have it. I was waiting for it to go side ways when the fella offered me mate an offer he couldn't refuse; let him put a tenner in and let him take over playing the machine and they'd go half's on the winnings, guaranteeing my mate at least 75 quid. Reluctantly my mate agreed and the fella stuck his tenner in the machine. From about 18 quid the credit went down to about 4 quid and I couldn't see how he was gonna do it, but then the winning came, I think me mate came away with over 80 quid and then the fella insisted on buying us a beer and even shots from the taguila girl. He then also said that he banned from the virtually every amusement arcade north of the river. True story
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    In my local bookies, there's a bloke that goes in every day and always comes out quids in.

    He owns the place.
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    Pure evil. I wouldn't go near them just from what i have seen friends do. Amazing how people become so entrapped. Scary.
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    It's like anything, booze, drugs etc.... Maybe not a good thing to do if you're the addictive type, but if you can afford to right off the 10 or 20 quid that you take in the bookies to use in the fruity, I can't see anything wrong with it. If you can't afford to loose it, don't play it.
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    Some people need protecting from themselves.

    Have long thought that the recent explosion in gaming - all the online stuff especially - is storing up a massive massive problem for the future.
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    edited June 2013
    Addickted said:

    In my local bookies, there's a bloke that goes in every day and always comes out quids in.

    He owns the place.

    Spot on.

    I belong to a casino (social thing) and enjoy the blacjkack and roulette.

    I buy £20 of chips and that it. I might have 2 or 3 hours of fun on the blackjack table and if I quit at the right time can finish up on the night.

    What I don't get is the people who play roulette and poker on machines when there are "real" games yards away. But each to their own.
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    Any sort of gambling machine can be fiddled,as it seems can be any horse or dog race!
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    Roulette is a subject I know more about than I should - have been to Vegas 5 times. Not sure of some of the information being passed on here, especially the advice to avoid the coloumns or dozens as no payout if 0 comes in but red/back odd/even is ok - these are all outside bets and all would be void if 0 came in ! Basically its a game of chance. What went before has no bearing on what will happen next thats why there are no professional roulette players. Not sure that a croupier can hit a part of the wheel to make you loose if he/she doesnt like you - if it is possible (which I dont believe) then tip when you win - problem solved ! In terms of the machines in the bookies, as someone has said these are based on random number generators and the result is decided as soon as you press "spin" so if you and the person on the machine next to you press the button at the same time you will both have the same winning result (as I have witnessed on numerous occassions) . Press the buttons a few second apart and you will get different winning results. As with all gambling - assume you are going to loose, treat it as a bit of fun, be able to afford to loose, and dont chase your losses once you have staked what you wanted to - but with winning odds of 35-1 for a single number roulette does offer the opportunity to win big for a small stake if you do get lucky.
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    Roulette is a subject I know more about than I should - have been to Vegas 5 times. Not sure of some of the information being passed on here, especially the advice to avoid the coloumns or dozens as no payout if 0 comes in but red/back odd/even is ok - these are all outside bets and all would be void if 0 came in ! Basically its a game of chance. What went before has no bearing on what will happen next thats why there are no professional roulette players. Not sure that a croupier can hit a part of the wheel to make you loose if he/she doesnt like you - if it is possible (which I dont believe) then tip when you win - problem solved ! In terms of the machines in the bookies, as someone has said these are based on random number generators and the result is decided as soon as you press "spin" so if you and the person on the machine next to you press the button at the same time you will both have the same winning result (as I have witnessed on numerous occassions) . Press the buttons a few second apart and you will get different winning results. As with all gambling - assume you are going to loose, treat it as a bit of fun, be able to afford to loose, and dont chase your losses once you have staked what you wanted to - but with winning odds of 35-1 for a single number roulette does offer the opportunity to win big for a small stake if you do get lucky.

    In what is called "American roulette", which is what you have in most casinos, a zero coming out will be penalised with half the stakes on the "outside bets",
    which does not include columns and dozens. Same rule applies for "French roulette" with seated croupiers, where outside bets are frozen until following
    spin, when bets can be freed according to what comes out. These rules do not apply with machines, where all stakes on outside bets are lost when zero comes up.
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    You never see a poor bookmaker. Fact.
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    You used to (talking years and years ago) be able to put £1 red, £1 black, £1 0 and by changing your stakes each time be able to guarentee a profit by eventually forcing a green
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    edited June 2013
    Off_it said:

    I'd heard from someone high up in the industry that these machines were a real cash cow for them. So much so that they were desperate to open new shops so they could put more machines in them as I understand there is a limit to how many machines they can have in one shop.

    Basically, yeah. There are 3 Corals in central Dartford, 2 barely take any bets but are kept open for their roulette machines as you're only allowed 4 per shop. That's also why bookies are open a lot longer hours now, I checked a while back and saw they're now open 'til 9 or 10 on a Sunday?!

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    Off_it said:



    Have never seen the attraction in them myself. All seems a bit sad - a bit like betting on those virtual races they run in bookies when there's any more than a couple of minutes between real races.

    On the subject of virtual racing, Corals had a glitch where the bet now was still active after the race had run for a minute or so, I know some fellas (that are now banned) who ripped the a*se out of it! they were having £5 tricasts and everything until they got sussed!
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    Addickted said:

    In my local bookies, there's a bloke that goes in every day and always comes out quids in.

    He owns the place.

    Spot on.

    I belong to a casino (social thing) and enjoy the blacjkack and roulette.

    I buy £20 of chips and that it. I might have 2 or 3 hours of fun on the blackjack table and if I quit at the right time can finish up on the night.

    What I don't get is the people who play roulette and poker on machines when there are "real" games yards away. But each to their own.
    Don't they have machines linked to the live tables in your casino? they do at Brighton marina and as one poster said earlier, it's much easier to hit the button instead of laying out all the chips manually
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    No idea creepy but still don't get why the virtual over the real.
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    Its not virtual though, its the table you are sitting at that is on the machine
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    It's not secret that the only real winner is the bookie, but as lo

    Addickted said:

    In my local bookies, there's a bloke that goes in every day and always comes out quids in.

    He owns the place.

    Spot on.

    I belong to a casino (social thing) and enjoy the blacjkack and roulette.

    I buy £20 of chips and that it. I might have 2 or 3 hours of fun on the blackjack table and if I quit at the right time can finish up on the night.

    What I don't get is the people who play roulette and poker on machines when there are "real" games yards away. But each to their own.
    Don't they have machines linked to the live tables in your casino? they do at Brighton marina and as one poster said earlier, it's much easier to hit the button instead of laying out all the chips manually
    Had s nice little win out the machine in there too! Went in there to watch the sport on the big screens while waiting for my better to finish work, paid a fiver for a pint of yellow water, put the fiver change in the machine and come out with about 80 quid to go and get off me tits in the Spoons across the road! Everyones a winner! Think I even gave the life boat collector on the pier a couple of quid!
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    Addickted said:

    In my local bookies, there's a bloke that goes in every day and always comes out quids in.

    He owns the place.

    Spot on.

    I belong to a casino (social thing) and enjoy the blacjkack and roulette.

    I buy £20 of chips and that it. I might have 2 or 3 hours of fun on the blackjack table and if I quit at the right time can finish up on the night.

    What I don't get is the people who play roulette and poker on machines when there are "real" games yards away. But each to their own.
    Don't they have machines linked to the live tables in your casino? they do at Brighton marina and as one poster said earlier, it's much easier to hit the button instead of laying out all the chips manually
    Do you count cards? How can you make a score last 2 or 3 hours in a casino... Unless I have a big win that'd last sub 15 minutes
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    Addickted said:

    In my local bookies, there's a bloke that goes in every day and always comes out quids in.

    He owns the place.

    Spot on.

    I belong to a casino (social thing) and enjoy the blacjkack and roulette.

    I buy £20 of chips and that it. I might have 2 or 3 hours of fun on the blackjack table and if I quit at the right time can finish up on the night.

    What I don't get is the people who play roulette and poker on machines when there are "real" games yards away. But each to their own.
    Agree with this, im the same £20 if i go to a casino and have to play live with dealer. My mate will go in and play on the screens, whats the point?
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