These are known as FOBT (fixed odds betting terminals) - Just google FOBT and read all the stories on them.
They have increased problem gambling dramatically in the UK. I have suffered with gambsling due to these b@stards. Not enough is being done by the Gov. to regulate them. They are evil money making machines.
Look into an organisation called GRASP group who are trying to make a change to these machines and gambling in general.
I was hooked to them between 18-24 and I am now 25 still trying to stay away from them. I've slipped up a few times but have been clean for a while now. The sterotype of a "gambler" has changed. It is no longer a middle aged guy pretending to be at work whilst wasting away his life savings on a horse whilst his kids and wife are at home.
I know people from the age of 18 - 25 who play these and lose a lot of cash. It is not just the roulette machines though. On your way home from work or at lunch try and go 5 minutes without noticing a gambling advert. Be it in a newspaper, on a bus stop or on your phone on the net. Let alone on your TV when you get home .
2 of my mates can normally go to a slot machine, stick about £5 in and come out £150+ richer, they did try teaching me but it's something I couldn't get my head around as it all happened too fast.
Absolute rubbish. If that was true then they'd be millionaires by now.
I don't know what they are like these days, but we used to know lots of tricks to Fruities. Motorway Mania would flash red when it was going to pay out for instance. We very, very rarely lost over an evening.
My English teacher, bizarrely, taught a couple of us what to look for. He had made loads of money out of fruities before getting barred from pretty much any pub with a machine in.
Used to make money on quiz machines in the late 80s/early 90s, but they got tougher and tougher. Used to cover the cost of our lunchtime pints (but that's a whole other thread lol!).
Just seen someone in the local Coral, 2 grand credit, still playing. Wouldn't shock me if he'd put 3 grand in.
Yep. I don't play them much anymore but if I ever get near 3 figures I can't press collect quick enough. So for someone to have 2000 and still not happy, you have to wonder how much went in in the first place.
I've been betting, quite heavily at times, for a few years now but have never been interested in any sort of casino game / machines etc. Prefer picking out horses or value in Football games with a bit of thought behind them than just picking random numbers on a fixed machine.
anyone who bets on a game run on a computer is bound to lose in the medium to long run .. it's a COMPUTER f f s, programmed to win the maximum the law will allow .. however, if one likes to pass the time by throwing money away .. so be it .. but it isn't money is it ? .. it's points, ethereal points .. until it comes time to pay the c c bill with 'points' that you don't have
I stopped playing fruit machines when they went up to 50p a spin, that's taking the piss!! Strange though as i think absolutely nothing of betting 100-200 quid on a football match.
anyone who bets on a game run on a computer is bound to lose in the medium to long run .. it's a COMPUTER f f s, programmed to win the maximum the law will allow .. however, if one likes to pass the time by throwing money away .. so be it .. but it isn't money is it ? .. it's points, ethereal points .. until it comes time to pay the c c bill with 'points' that you don't have
That theory would only be true if you always played the same machine, the buzz that I got/get was using new machines to see if they're" ready to pay out" and if they were, it was another good feeling hearing them coins being thrown out. I'd spend between 5 and 10 quid in a fruity when on a night out and occasionally win between 30 and 75 quid.
1. You can't blame governments for people betting there life away, it's called free choice. Six paying in windows and one paying out is all the information you need. 2. I knew an independent bookie that went broke. 3. Believe it or not there were bookies in the fifties before betting shops were legal. I think our local one was a milkman.
Worked in various bookies (Dartford, Sidcup, Welling) in the mid nineties. Most punters came in and lost money. The punters who laid on big bets always seemed to win (like they knew the winners before they came in). For your average bloke I would definitely repeat 'it is a mugs game'. Yes it is an addiction like drinking, smoking, drugs etc but ultimately it is down to the individual to take responsibility. You can't blame the government for everything.
I stopped playing fruit machines when they went up to 50p a spin, that's taking the piss!! Strange though as i think absolutely nothing of betting 100-200 quid on a football match.
I used to play fruit machines a hell of a lot until they changed to 50p-£1 aswell. With that 20 or 30 quid I would rather have a bet on the horses or footy (more footy as I'm getting sick of dodgey horse racing too) now then playing a machine that may have paid out 5 mins before I got there
Worked in various bookies (Dartford, Sidcup, Welling) in the mid nineties. Most punters came in and lost money. The punters who laid on big bets always seemed to win (like they knew the winners before they came in). For your average bloke I would definitely repeat 'it is a mugs game'. Yes it is an addiction like drinking, smoking, drugs etc but ultimately it is down to the individual to take responsibility. You can't blame the government for everything.
Hardly blame the Government for "everything" but the gambling industry has become a 24/7 industry and the simple facts are that there is not enough put in place by the government to help problem gamblers of today and the future. As I've said previously, go for a five minute walk down your high street, browse the internet for 5 minutes or watch TV adverts for 5 minutes. If you don't see any advertisement for a company within the gambling industry I will be very suprised.
Worked in various bookies (Dartford, Sidcup, Welling) in the mid nineties. Most punters came in and lost money. The punters who laid on big bets always seemed to win (like they knew the winners before they came in). For your average bloke I would definitely repeat 'it is a mugs game'. Yes it is an addiction like drinking, smoking, drugs etc but ultimately it is down to the individual to take responsibility. You can't blame the government for everything.
Hardly blame the Government for "everything" but the gambling industry has become a 24/7 industry and the simple facts are that there is not enough put in place by the government to help problem gamblers of today and the future. As I've said previously, go for a five minute walk down your high street, browse the internet for 5 minutes or watch TV adverts for 5 minutes. If you don't see any advertisement for a company within the gambling industry I will be very suprised.
I think this ties in nicely with the above.
From yesterdays BBC London news;
An authority which is home to 80 betting shops has appeared in court to defend its decision to reject a licence for a new one.
Newham in east London has the third highest number of betting shops in London.
Under the 2005 Gambling Act Newham argued opening a Paddy Power branch in Green Street, East Ham, would attract crime and anti-social behaviour.
Paddy Power said it was unable to comment until the case ends.
The betting firm made the application for a licence to operate in February.
A Newham spokesman said the council would argue that no matter how good an operator, anti-social behaviour is associated with betting shops and that fixed odds betting machines are "highly addictive".
The council expects a decision to be reached by Wednesday.
...and I'd lay good money* that the area with the most betting shops in it is not Richmond, Kensington & Chelsea, Bromley or anywhere else the rich hang out. These companies are targeting the poorest in our society and our planning/licensing rules make it way to easy to do.
...and I'd lay good money* that the area with the most betting shops in it is not Richmond, Kensington & Chelsea, Bromley or anywhere else the rich hang out. These companies are targeting the poorest in our society and our planning/licensing rules make it way to easy to do.
Correct.
"Newham, one of the country's poorest areas, has more than 80 betting shops – six per square mile – with five new shops opening each year. Paddy Power has a dozen in the borough and is applying to open three more this year"
There are professional gamblers. Do these people bet on form and extensive research or do they play on the machines?
They're card players generally, aren't they?
Some travel up and down the country for different race meetings and spend weeks before swotting. Dont know why they dont download an app and watch it on channel 4!
Felt like I needed to revisit the thread after myself and a friend thought a saucy trip to Coral tonight would be a good idea - it wasn't!
See people do their bollocks on the machines most days, and generally stay away. Today, temptation was too much! You can be hundreds down before you even realise!
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They have increased problem gambling dramatically in the UK. I have suffered with gambsling due to these b@stards. Not enough is being done by the Gov. to regulate them. They are evil money making machines.
Look into an organisation called GRASP group who are trying to make a change to these machines and gambling in general.
I was hooked to them between 18-24 and I am now 25 still trying to stay away from them. I've slipped up a few times but have been clean for a while now. The sterotype of a "gambler" has changed. It is no longer a middle aged guy pretending to be at work whilst wasting away his life savings on a horse whilst his kids and wife are at home.
I know people from the age of 18 - 25 who play these and lose a lot of cash. It is not just the roulette machines though. On your way home from work or at lunch try and go 5 minutes without noticing a gambling advert. Be it in a newspaper, on a bus stop or on your phone on the net. Let alone on your TV when you get home .
My English teacher, bizarrely, taught a couple of us what to look for. He had made loads of money out of fruities before getting barred from pretty much any pub with a machine in.
But like all things we aint meant to do they are addictive
2. I knew an independent bookie that went broke.
3. Believe it or not there were bookies in the fifties before betting shops were legal. I think our local one was a milkman.
From yesterdays BBC London news;
An authority which is home to 80 betting shops has appeared in court to defend its decision to reject a licence for a new one.
Newham in east London has the third highest number of betting shops in London.
Under the 2005 Gambling Act Newham argued opening a Paddy Power branch in Green Street, East Ham, would attract crime and anti-social behaviour.
Paddy Power said it was unable to comment until the case ends.
The betting firm made the application for a licence to operate in February.
A Newham spokesman said the council would argue that no matter how good an operator, anti-social behaviour is associated with betting shops and that fixed odds betting machines are "highly addictive".
The council expects a decision to be reached by Wednesday.
*did you see what I did there.
Correct.
"Newham, one of the country's poorest areas, has more than 80 betting shops – six per square mile – with five new shops opening each year. Paddy Power has a dozen in the borough and is applying to open three more this year"
Maybe they go for densely populated areas.
See people do their bollocks on the machines most days, and generally stay away. Today, temptation was too much! You can be hundreds down before you even realise!
Stay away chaps haha.
I love a bet on the horses and football and only lose what I can afford to, but these machines are just aids.