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4th Ashes Test

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  • They said at start of play, that no team had managed 300 in the 1st innings this season at Durham.
    Therefore, I'm not surprised & still fancy our chances.
  • Why the hell are we playing to negative? Weve retained the ashes and deservedly so,so surely we should go out and enjoy ourselves.to many players think there comfortable in this team.they need a kick up the arse.think root,although he's done great, should bat back at 6.defo not an opener.
  • Our batsman have been woeful .
  • Bairstow isn't a test class batsman. Would rather see Taylor there.

    Would personally drop Bairstow, bring back Compton and move Root down the order.

    Also think they have missed a trick in picking Bresnan ahead of Onions here.
  • Bairstow isn't a test class batsman. Would rather see Taylor there.

    Would personally drop Bairstow, bring back Compton and move Root down the order.

    Also think they have missed a trick in picking Bresnan ahead of Onions here.

    Absolutely
  • SO much for 5-0 eh....

    Got a bit complacent?
  • I wouldn't have Bresnan in the side either but I hope he goes and proves us all wrong .
  • Bresnan has done ok. It's broad who is a passenger more often than not. We just don't have too many world class options
  • Bye Swanny
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  • edited August 2013
    214-9

    Swann c Lyon b Harris 13
  • SO much for 5-0 eh....

    Got a bit complacent?

    No one in the England team/management was talking about winning 5-0, as usual it was the media doing the bragging.

  • Let's see how Australia do before condemning them too much.

    4 wickets for Lyons this innings so might be a bit in it for Swanny even if some of the Aussie left handers are missing.
  • LenGlover said:

    Let's see how Australia do before condemning them too much.

    4 wickets for Lyons this innings so might be a bit in it for Swanny even if some of the Aussie left handers are missing.

    The ball has hardly spun - Lyons has got his wickets by nagging away and batsmen trying to be too clever against him.

  • SO much for 5-0 eh....

    Got a bit complacent?

    No one in the England team/management was talking about winning 5-0, as usual it was the media doing the bragging.

    Very true and TBF the Aussies were predicted to have a decent bowling attack.

  • LenGlover said:

    Let's see how Australia do before condemning them too much.

    4 wickets for Lyons this innings so might be a bit in it for Swanny even if some of the Aussie left handers are missing.

    The ball has hardly spun - Lyons has got his wickets by nagging away and batsmen trying to be too clever against him.

    Ok I've only followed it on Cricinfo so didn't realise that.

    That said maybe the Aussies will do the same.
  • 238-9 at the close.
  • The wicket looks to be a bit on the slow side, there has been virtually no spin/seam or swing movement, other than the ball that did for Cook. Australia bowled well and bowled to their field and perhaps got lucky - thin edges did for Root, KP and Trott for example and they were on the right end of a couple of reviews. 238/9 at the close is not good but England have something to defend.
  • Bairstow is quality in the field though, Collingwood wasn't all that with the bat but eventually ground out hundreds and who can forget jonty rhodes, who had a batting average in the 20s but is still unsurpassed as the best fielder ever.
  • He was good, probably the best fielder at backward point ever, but I always thought Jonty Rhodes was a bit of a show off - you could often see him take a step to one side so he could dive the other way and make the dive look just that bit more spectacular - you occasionally see goalkeepers do the same in football. Consequently he spilled a few catches through show boating. The best fielders - Derek Randall, Paul Parker, Colin Bland etc were better than him, and they fielded in the covers, while Mark Waugh was best catcher I saw along with Graham Roope.
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  • Aussies will be all out for 194
  • He was good, probably the best fielder at backward point ever, but I always thought Jonty Rhodes was a bit of a show off - you could often see him take a step to one side so he could dive the other way and make the dive look just that bit more spectacular - you occasionally see goalkeepers do the same in football. Consequently he spilled a few catches through show boating. The best fielders - Derek Randall, Paul Parker, Colin Bland etc were better than him, and they fielded in the covers, while Mark Waugh was best catcher I saw along with Graham Roope.

    backward point is a much harder position to field in than in the covers.
  • edited August 2013
    England last two overs of the morning session and add no more runs to overnight score. 238 all out and now I can post again...
  • Oz 12-1

    Warner b Broad
  • backward point is a much harder position to field in than in the covers.

    Different skills - at BP/gully the ball tens to come at you pretty hard - invariably off the meat of the bat or with a lot of power behind it. I always likened it to being a coconut in a shy. In the covers you generally have a wider area to patrol - from mid-off to point so it requires a bit more athleticism and agility.
  • edited August 2013
    12-2

    Khawaja c Prior b Broad 0
  • edited August 2013
    12-2

    Khawaja c Prior b Broad 0 (thought that was lbw, apparently got a knick on way through to Prior) :-)



    ...need to get my eyes tested, no pad anywhere near that.
  • Good bowling - fuller length and a bit of seam movement today.

    The pitch looks a tad faster than yesterday.
  • Broad is RIGHT on song this morning
  • what is the logic of lbw not granted if the ball pitches outside leg stump? ... if the ball is going on to hit the stumps and the pads intervene, the decision should be OUT irrespective of where the ball pitched
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