Anyone expecting loyalty is utterly nuts but I think there's a way of doing things and I think dragging this out until the 25th of June is pretty poor on Diegos part.
He is only where he is today because we put him there. No loyalty at all. He must have gone for the money...
He didn't get where he was by playing out of his skin for a 19 year old then? we selected him based on his efforts as a young player and he performed to a very high standard, resulting in other teams wanting him. He may get more money but he will also be able to play and develop at a higher standard, alongside other better players. From a development point of view its a no-brainer. It hurts that he's gone but would say that anyone in such circumstances would do exactly the same in his shoes
What is it Richard Murray said in that interview video when Roland took over "we need to try and keep hold of our young talent in the past we have sold to early"
What is it Richard Murray said in that interview video when Roland took over "we need to try and keep hold of our young talent in the past we have sold to early"
I really don't understand how some people can be so unemotional, i can understand why he has gone, money/ego/career chances but why do we have to not be bitter about it, we are Charlton fans, i don't like seeing out club disrespected personally.
I don't wish him any serious ill will but the way he has handled this puts him with Defoe & Parker for me, i simply don't care what he does now, certainly can't wish him good luck.
Where as i still enjoy watching the likes of Shelvey & Jenkinson.
I don't understand what his family's wealth has to do with it. I don't expect his Dad to buy him a new house and/or a £50k car - both of which he'll be able to buy for himself if he signs for a big club.
In fact I am normally rather scathing of young men and women that have lemonade wages and Champagne lifestyles care of Mummy and Daddy.
He is never going to be hard up. He will inherit. He can buy both those things on eight grand a week plus, which is at least what we would have been offering him. Whether you or I are scathing of it does not change the facts.
All this tripe about "we gave him 8 years, he owes us"....
Well then if we were prepared to invest 8 years in him, then maybe we should have sorted a proper contract out for him a bit sooner rather than leaving it to this? Its our clubs responsibility to look after our investments, not his.
The owners have been trying for six months. They couldn't do anything before, because they weren't the owners then...
ok, shoot me down, but uruguayan players have always struck me as tricky/slimy/a bit nasty - really hoped his mum's side would have bred some loyalty/fairness into him, but oh well, we move on...funny, the high of the last few days, all looking much more hopeful etc., then today's news....i look forward to seeing who turns up at sparrows lane tomorrow now!
Gutted. Biggest disappointment is that I won't get to see him playing - such a pleasure to watch. Wish him every success. He was going to go sooner or later anyway, just a shame it's so soon.
At least we know where we are. I don't think it's all bad necessarily. Poyet's style means that to some extent the team had to be built around him. I am not wholly convinced that style works best in the Championship. If the salary he was presumably being offered is spent elsewhere, we may have an as good or better team than we might have imagined.
He was, however, a joy to watch in the 4 games that I managed to see him play. I hope he finds the right club.
ok, shoot me down, but uruguayan players have always struck me as tricky/slimy/a bit nasty - really hoped his mum's side would have bred some loyalty/fairness into him, but oh well, we move on...funny, the high of the last few days, all looking much more hopeful etc., then today's news....i look forward to seeing who turns up at sparrows lane tomorrow now!
Right, because English players never screw clubs over...
The people so emotionally scarred by all this, were you all this upset when we released Ade Azeez. Same age, been brought through the academy. Or is he easier to get over because hes not worth as much money???
The old 'no loyalty in football' gets trotted out when a player leaves, but there's just as much loyalty as there is guarantee. In no way can Poyet be blamed for living for the moment.
The difference between him and Parker is that a bigger. club came sniffing while he was contracted to us, and he made it evidently clear half way through a season that he wanted to piss off.
ok, fair point se9addick, it's just a sign of the (modern footballing) times...deep breath....on we go...coyr...now time for jordan and yoni to run the engine room, full steam ahead...
Sh1t happens . Deal with it and move on. We have probably taken from others in the same way. It is down to the individual viz Diego. He needed to be strong to stand up to his dad and play one more season for us but like most of the England internationals there is no backbone there. Never mind. Looking forward to next season just as much with or without Poyet.
The people so emotionally scarred by all this, were you all this upset when we released Ade Azeez. Same age, been brought through the academy. Or is he easier to get over because hes not worth as much money???
The old 'no loyalty in football' gets trotted out when a player leaves, but there's just as much loyalty as there is guarantee. In no way can Poyet be blamed for living for the moment.
The difference between him and Parker is that a bigger. club came sniffing while he was contracted to us, and he made it evidently clear half way through a season that he wanted to piss off.
My analogy; I went to university. That university gave me an opportunity to learn, to improve myself and my employability which I was lucky enough at the time not to have to pay for. They did not promise me a job at the end of the course but afforded me every opportunity to make my self as successful as I could be. Some of my friends gave up mid course, some have gone on to have very successful careers others less so.
In return I have chosen through the alumni to give a monthly amount back to my university as I know this affords people coming up through the ranks behind me the same opportunities I had in a financial climate which is not as fortunate as the one that I had when I was studying.
Long winded way of saying I think Poyet did owe us a contract so we could get a 'return on our investment', I think all youth players do (unless we are really taking the piss).
Whether we release some is not relevant, we gave each of them an opportunity and spent our money to give them that opportunity.
I don't know if Poyet feels he owes CAFC, but maybe there should be a certain loyalty to future players as if all our younguns move on for little fee the club will surely, one day, decide the academy is not worth the cost.
As I posted earlier, Poyet signed his first contract and he has seen it out, he certainly did not owe us two. It is a shame it has dragged on into the summer but there never would have been a 'good time' for this news to be released.
I won't wish him good luck or bad luck particularly, he has left after 20 games, I just don't care about him anymore.
The people so emotionally scarred by all this, were you all this upset when we released Ade Azeez. Same age, been brought through the academy. Or is he easier to get over because hes not worth as much money???
The old 'no loyalty in football' gets trotted out when a player leaves, but there's just as much loyalty as there is guarantee. In no way can Poyet be blamed for living for the moment.
The difference between him and Parker is that a bigger. club came sniffing while he was contracted to us, and he made it evidently clear half way through a season that he wanted to piss off.
What about when Azeez was 16 and all he had was potential? We were loyal to him then and offered him a place as an academy scholar and then again when we offered him a pro contract. The exact same with Poyet it's just one fulfilled their promise and the other didn't. The club has invested a lot of resources and money in both players, one had the chance to repay that loyalty but said "stuff that I'm leaving", that is pretty unforgivable in my book. Thats why people are pissed off.
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Hugely disappointed that some kind of deal couldn't have been worked on to keep him here for one more season.
Taxi for Murray
The whole saga appears to have been a shambles, hope Gomes is signed up on a long term deal if he's got the potential.
I don't wish him any serious ill will but the way he has handled this puts him with Defoe & Parker for me, i simply don't care what he does now, certainly can't wish him good luck.
Where as i still enjoy watching the likes of Shelvey & Jenkinson.
Wish him every success. He was going to go sooner or later anyway, just a shame it's so soon.
He was, however, a joy to watch in the 4 games that I managed to see him play. I hope he finds the right club.
The old 'no loyalty in football' gets trotted out when a player leaves, but there's just as much loyalty as there is guarantee. In no way can Poyet be blamed for living for the moment.
The difference between him and Parker is that a bigger. club came sniffing while he was contracted to us, and he made it evidently clear half way through a season that he wanted to piss off.
Will the carnage never end?
In return I have chosen through the alumni to give a monthly amount back to my university as I know this affords people coming up through the ranks behind me the same opportunities I had in a financial climate which is not as fortunate as the one that I had when I was studying.
Long winded way of saying I think Poyet did owe us a contract so we could get a 'return on our investment', I think all youth players do (unless we are really taking the piss).
Whether we release some is not relevant, we gave each of them an opportunity and spent our money to give them that opportunity.
I don't know if Poyet feels he owes CAFC, but maybe there should be a certain loyalty to future players as if all our younguns move on for little fee the club will surely, one day, decide the academy is not worth the cost.
As I posted earlier, Poyet signed his first contract and he has seen it out, he certainly did not owe us two. It is a shame it has dragged on into the summer but there never would have been a 'good time' for this news to be released.
I won't wish him good luck or bad luck particularly, he has left after 20 games, I just don't care about him anymore.