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Southeastern train disruption (franchise to be taken over by Govt p191)

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  • Changing isn't too inconvenient as long as you can get to all of those from London Bridge I guess... would rather not though. Funny looking 'upgrade' as well.

    If it means that basically every rush hour train doesn't sit in traffic outside London Bridge and there's less delays, it could be worth it. I suspect it wouldn't do all that much to be honest... but they'll win and we'll soon forget and accept the new service for what it is after a while. Bit of a murmur when they put the fares up, but ultimately they've got us by the balls.
  • Nothing like a good 'train' debate as a worthwhile aside from our current problems :-)

    Glad I don't have to use them any more.


  • Will soften the blow though when I know that @cantersaddick has joined that party.

    Haha another month or so of exams then I'm back on the commute ting...
  • Will soften the blow though when I know that @cantersaddick has joined that party.

    Haha another month or so of exams then I'm back on the commute ting...
    Good!! We've missed your rants!!
  • Will soften the blow though when I know that @cantersaddick has joined that party.

    Haha another month or so of exams then I'm back on the commute ting...
    Good!! We've missed your rants!!
    Well the 15 minute (uphill) walk onto campus every day has been tough. So tough in fact that I usually drive when it's raining! :p
  • Hmm, reading between the lines on this thread


    They've got us by the balls.
    Will soften the blow though when I know that @cantersaddick has joined that party.
  • I know someone in the loop with this & they told me that it's lies & that they aren't going to reduce services to London Bridge/Charing Cross etc at all
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  • Just flicked through some of the .gov.uk document... Chris Grayling really is a f*cking nugget. He could've conveniently thrown this problem back to The Mayor/TfL if he didn't play party politics with the lives of Londoners by blocking it, simply to prevent Labour from gaining more control. I'm not Sadiq Khan's biggest fan at all, but I'll admit that it made a lot of sense for TfL to extend their remit.

    One of the improvements is rolling out the Metro style trains outside the Metro area. WTF? They're rubbish enough when you're on the outskirts of the Metro area (i.e Barnehurst, Dartford, Slade Green) - let alone even longer journeys.
  • Wonderful leading questions on their consultation. "Do you agree that more space is needed for passengers at the busiest times of the day?". Of course, everyone will say "Why yes, yes I do agree!" and then they'll rip out the seats so they can ram more standing passengers in "In response to customer demand".
  • Will soften the blow though when I know that @cantersaddick has joined that party.

    So turns out I have to go into the office on Friday for the final stage of selection to get my previous job back.

    What are the odds that the trains are fucked and I miss it completely?
  • Damn, those hipsters blocking the entrance.
  • At least that photo proves the service has always been crap.
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    At least that photo proves the service has always been crap.

    Yes, true. But that orderly queue has to be admired. Imagine that lot queuing for a pint at half time in the East Stand.
  • Problems at London Bridge this morning. Judging by this picture it's been going on for some time.

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    And people complained just as much then.
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  • Dunno what's going i this morning. 0821 Dartford to Charing Cross diverting to Cannon Street. Explanation was gibberish. Ho hum
  • Long as it's cleared by later today. A few weeks ago it was mayhem trying to get a 486 from North Greenwich to charlton when simular happened.
  • Painfully slow because of 1 incident on 1 train. Wankers.
  • Their argument for the long delay usually is when trains are delayed there obviously not where they should be and it takes ages to put that right... I. E why don't they cancel them and pick up the timetable again.
  • Need to change the thread title - it very wrongly implies that they've not been completely useless since 23 January.
  • Well they are not getting better, My train was diverted to Canon Street instead of Charing X this morning!
  • Any chance of an update on the Bermondsey dive under? Is it finished and is it worth coming up to town for?
  • Answer is no for both questions. Complete by 2018
  • Any chance of an update on the Bermondsey dive under? Is it finished and is it worth coming up to town for?

    The diveunder will be used for Charing Cross trains following this Easter. It won't have any impact on service performance however as its sole purpose is to allow Thameslink trains to cross over so that they can get to Blackfriars after London Bridge.

    Opening platform 6 at London Bridge to trains from Charing Cross will help performance, but that is not until following the August bank holiday.
  • Got this from my MP today.


    Southeastern Franchise Consultation

    As a result of Chris Grayling’s decision to block proposals to transfer Southeastern metro services to Transport for London (TfL) when the franchise is re-let in 2018, the Department for Transport (DfT) is currently seeking expressions of interest from potential bidders for the franchise.

    To mark the start of the process of finding a new operator from 2018, the DfT recently launched a public consultation exercise. The consultation sets out a number of proposals for improving the service, the most controversial of which is the option of running Lewisham line trains into Cannon Street only rather than Charing Cross/Waterloo East and Victoria and reducing the number of trains that call at smaller stations.

    At this stage, the proposals only form part of a consultation but I appreciate that residents who rely on services from Woolwich Arsenal, Charlton or Blackheath to Waterloo East or Charing Cross will have strong views on the matter. I strongly encourage residents to take a look at the full document and to make sure you submit your views.

    The full consultation document can be found here: https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/rail-franchising#south-eastern-franchise

    Consultation documents are also available in accessible formats and hard copy on request by emailing: BetterSouthEastern@dft.gsi.gov.uk

    As part of the consultation, the DfT are also hosting a series of events where you can make your views known. The most convenient for local residents are:

    24 April, Charing Cross concourse, 4 - 7pm
    8 May, London Bridge concourse, 4 - 7pm
    27 April, Woolwich Town Hall, 1 - 4pm
    The DfT consultation closes on 23 May 2017. I will respond as your Member of Parliament and I would therefore welcome sight of any submissions residents may make to the consultation.

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