Changing isn't too inconvenient as long as you can get to all of those from London Bridge I guess... would rather not though. Funny looking 'upgrade' as well.
If it means that basically every rush hour train doesn't sit in traffic outside London Bridge and there's less delays, it could be worth it. I suspect it wouldn't do all that much to be honest... but they'll win and we'll soon forget and accept the new service for what it is after a while. Bit of a murmur when they put the fares up, but ultimately they've got us by the balls.
Operational complexity ? I thought the idea of the rebuilding of London Bridge was to ease the congestion. Now they want to cram the majority of London services into Cannon Street ? Tossers.
I know someone in the loop with this & they told me that it's lies & that they aren't going to reduce services to London Bridge/Charing Cross etc at all
Just flicked through some of the .gov.uk document... Chris Grayling really is a f*cking nugget. He could've conveniently thrown this problem back to The Mayor/TfL if he didn't play party politics with the lives of Londoners by blocking it, simply to prevent Labour from gaining more control. I'm not Sadiq Khan's biggest fan at all, but I'll admit that it made a lot of sense for TfL to extend their remit.
One of the improvements is rolling out the Metro style trains outside the Metro area. WTF? They're rubbish enough when you're on the outskirts of the Metro area (i.e Barnehurst, Dartford, Slade Green) - let alone even longer journeys.
Wonderful leading questions on their consultation. "Do you agree that more space is needed for passengers at the busiest times of the day?". Of course, everyone will say "Why yes, yes I do agree!" and then they'll rip out the seats so they can ram more standing passengers in "In response to customer demand".
Their argument for the long delay usually is when trains are delayed there obviously not where they should be and it takes ages to put that right... I. E why don't they cancel them and pick up the timetable again.
Any chance of an update on the Bermondsey dive under? Is it finished and is it worth coming up to town for?
The diveunder will be used for Charing Cross trains following this Easter. It won't have any impact on service performance however as its sole purpose is to allow Thameslink trains to cross over so that they can get to Blackfriars after London Bridge.
Opening platform 6 at London Bridge to trains from Charing Cross will help performance, but that is not until following the August bank holiday.
As a result of Chris Grayling’s decision to block proposals to transfer Southeastern metro services to Transport for London (TfL) when the franchise is re-let in 2018, the Department for Transport (DfT) is currently seeking expressions of interest from potential bidders for the franchise.
To mark the start of the process of finding a new operator from 2018, the DfT recently launched a public consultation exercise. The consultation sets out a number of proposals for improving the service, the most controversial of which is the option of running Lewisham line trains into Cannon Street only rather than Charing Cross/Waterloo East and Victoria and reducing the number of trains that call at smaller stations.
At this stage, the proposals only form part of a consultation but I appreciate that residents who rely on services from Woolwich Arsenal, Charlton or Blackheath to Waterloo East or Charing Cross will have strong views on the matter. I strongly encourage residents to take a look at the full document and to make sure you submit your views.
Consultation documents are also available in accessible formats and hard copy on request by emailing: BetterSouthEastern@dft.gsi.gov.uk
As part of the consultation, the DfT are also hosting a series of events where you can make your views known. The most convenient for local residents are:
24 April, Charing Cross concourse, 4 - 7pm 8 May, London Bridge concourse, 4 - 7pm 27 April, Woolwich Town Hall, 1 - 4pm The DfT consultation closes on 23 May 2017. I will respond as your Member of Parliament and I would therefore welcome sight of any submissions residents may make to the consultation.
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If it means that basically every rush hour train doesn't sit in traffic outside London Bridge and there's less delays, it could be worth it. I suspect it wouldn't do all that much to be honest... but they'll win and we'll soon forget and accept the new service for what it is after a while. Bit of a murmur when they put the fares up, but ultimately they've got us by the balls.
Glad I don't have to use them any more.
They've got us by the balls.
Will soften the blow though when I know that @cantersaddick has joined that party.
One of the improvements is rolling out the Metro style trains outside the Metro area. WTF? They're rubbish enough when you're on the outskirts of the Metro area (i.e Barnehurst, Dartford, Slade Green) - let alone even longer journeys.
What are the odds that the trains are fucked and I miss it completely?
Opening platform 6 at London Bridge to trains from Charing Cross will help performance, but that is not until following the August bank holiday.
Southeastern Franchise Consultation
As a result of Chris Grayling’s decision to block proposals to transfer Southeastern metro services to Transport for London (TfL) when the franchise is re-let in 2018, the Department for Transport (DfT) is currently seeking expressions of interest from potential bidders for the franchise.
To mark the start of the process of finding a new operator from 2018, the DfT recently launched a public consultation exercise. The consultation sets out a number of proposals for improving the service, the most controversial of which is the option of running Lewisham line trains into Cannon Street only rather than Charing Cross/Waterloo East and Victoria and reducing the number of trains that call at smaller stations.
At this stage, the proposals only form part of a consultation but I appreciate that residents who rely on services from Woolwich Arsenal, Charlton or Blackheath to Waterloo East or Charing Cross will have strong views on the matter. I strongly encourage residents to take a look at the full document and to make sure you submit your views.
The full consultation document can be found here: https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/rail-franchising#south-eastern-franchise
Consultation documents are also available in accessible formats and hard copy on request by emailing: BetterSouthEastern@dft.gsi.gov.uk
As part of the consultation, the DfT are also hosting a series of events where you can make your views known. The most convenient for local residents are:
24 April, Charing Cross concourse, 4 - 7pm
8 May, London Bridge concourse, 4 - 7pm
27 April, Woolwich Town Hall, 1 - 4pm
The DfT consultation closes on 23 May 2017. I will respond as your Member of Parliament and I would therefore welcome sight of any submissions residents may make to the consultation.