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Southeastern train disruption (franchise to be taken over by Govt p191)

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  • edited April 2017

    Could cause a few problems....

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39609977

    They obviously herd SouthEastern ran a cattle service! :wink:
  • Charing Cross is fucked.

    Managed to get on the only train out of the station within a 40 minute gap and by the time it got to London Bridge the platform staff were the ones bangin on windows to tell already crammed passengers to move down like cattle.

    Every single one of their staff is vermin.
  • So glad I now work in Shoreditch, much easier to catch a bus to New Cross and then the Overground, or a DLR to Shadwell and then Overground.

    Daily commute on SouthEastern then supporting Charlton is probably worse than what goes on in hell
  • Off -peak fares to increase from Sunday 21st May.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-39928386
  • This is a good example of the ridiculous system of changing the "franchise" every few years.

    Putting off-peak fares up initially increases revenue but eventually leads to a drop in passenger numbers which defeats the object of the increases.

    BUT the current managers no longer care about anything long term - they know they will be out in 18 months anyway! Why worry about the customers - just take what profit you can without breaking the franchise contract.

    I just don't understand why people let governments get away with it! At east we will have a "strong and stable" railway system. Even if it is crap.
  • edited May 2017

    I know I keep going on about this and I'm only venting but I feel the need to shout. It's the 22nd of May AND THE FU####G HEATING IS ON!!!!!!!!! I've complained before and didn't get so much as an acknowledgment. Anyone got any idea what you have to do to get through to these arseholes?

    I have gone out my way to have a word with the driver before but long time ago. Can't remember if he ignored me or referred me to customer complaints or suchlike.
  • Drivers don't control the heating apparently
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  • WSS said:

    Drivers don't control the heating apparently

    They do on some new trains. They can even turn off heating in individual coaches. I'm not sure about Southeastern trains but that's certainly the case with the new Great Northern trains that run from London to Peterborough and Cambridge.
  • Maybe the tannoy system is on the same dodgy electrical circuit as the heaters. Can't be heard around 7 times out of 10. They do not test them and do not respond to customer complaints. If they did then the tannoys and heaters would work properly.
  • South eastern trains are the worst for this. 6 months of the year heating on full blast 6 months heating off. Literally switches over on a day..

    And my trains were the worst. Not the new ones where the air conditioning actually worked but not the old ones where the windows open. So windows bolted shut but air con with the puffing power of a dead ant. I genuinely nearly fainted when I didn't get a seat on a hot crowded train last year. Nearly blacked out and had to sit down. Turns out I was suffering from glandular fever but still dangerous.

    Oh I can't wait till I return to work in August! That 50 min (lol you mean an hour and 15) train journey packed in like cattle! That's my reward for working bloody hard at uni this year...
  • Lucky to have a job you whippersnapper :smiley:
  • Lucky to have a job you whippersnapper :smiley:

    Millenials... :wink:
  • Lucky to have a job you whippersnapper :smiley:

    You're not wrong. It's scary the number of friends I have leaving uni this year with good degrees in a proper subject (like econonics) some with a masters and yet can't get a job. I'm lucky coz I did a years experience so had the massive CV boost (and the inside line in how to beat their ridiculous recruitment process).
  • Will soften the blow though when I know that @cantersaddick has joined that party.

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    Not just yet! I have 2 and a bit months of sunning myself and drinking myself silly first!
  • edited May 2017

    Will soften the blow though when I know that @cantersaddick has joined that party.

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    Not just yet! I have 2 and a bit months of sunning myself and drinking myself silly first!
    Dammit.

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    Haha that's incredible. Hope you invite your whole office to that event! :p I'll make sure to post on day 1 (which by the way is the 14th of August you're getting ahead of yourself).
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  • Lucky to have a job you whippersnapper :smiley:

    You're not wrong. It's scary the number of friends I have leaving uni this year with good degrees in a proper subject (like econonics) some with a masters and yet can't get a job. I'm lucky coz I did a years experience so had the massive CV boost (and the inside line in how to beat their ridiculous recruitment process).
    Think you've let yourself down slightly there by describing economics as 'a proper subject'.

    In comparison with say engineering, some maths degrees, physics, some management degrees and even some golf course management degrees, economics can be a theoretical degree with no real basis to suggest the theory can translate into the real world

    I did thin sandwich degree with 5 months study 5 months work for the first 3 years and a 'full' academic year at the end.

    No doubt for me that I came out much more employable after this than a straight 'academic' degree.


  • Would also say that degrees are fine but for many people a decent apprenticeship with an option to do more theoretical learning would be better
  • Lucky to have a job you whippersnapper :smiley:

    You're not wrong. It's scary the number of friends I have leaving uni this year with good degrees in a proper subject (like econonics) some with a masters and yet can't get a job. I'm lucky coz I did a years experience so had the massive CV boost (and the inside line in how to beat their ridiculous recruitment process).
    Think you've let yourself down slightly there by describing economics as 'a proper subject'.

    In comparison with say engineering, some maths degrees, physics, some management degrees and even some golf course management degrees, economics can be a theoretical degree with no real basis to suggest the theory can translate into the real world

    I did thin sandwich degree with 5 months study 5 months work for the first 3 years and a 'full' academic year at the end.

    No doubt for me that I came out much more employable after this than a straight 'academic' degree.


    Would also say that degrees are fine but for many people a decent apprenticeship with an option to do more theoretical learning would be better

    Haha what you got against economics eh?

    Yes it's very theoretical and not much of it translates into the real world. It's widely seen by employers as a good degree. Transferable skills are good, knowledge of current affairs better than pretty much any other degree course. Undertanding of finance, markets, money and banking better than most. It's a good degree that gives a good foundation but is general enough to allow you career options.

    Very much agree with you on degrees vs apprenticeships. It should very much be based on what suits the individual and that's where a lot of people are going wrong. There are some really good school leavers programmes out there that off training to the equivalent of a degree and good progression over 5 years. I almost took one.
  • Typed out a response about how I rate economics as a subject, and then realised that the thread was getting derailed.

    Where's the misery at.
  • If your journey is 10 miles or less and you're reasonably fit or able to become reasonably fit you should cycle.

    Way less stress. Costs less. You get fit or fitter. No brainer to me.
  • edited May 2017
    MrLargo said:

    iainment said:

    If your journey is 10 miles or less and you're reasonably fit or able to become reasonably fit you should cycle.

    Way less stress. Costs less. You get fit or fitter. No brainer to me.

    You cycled along the Old Kent Road or round central London in rush hour? Did it for 6 months - buses, lorries, idiot road rage drivers. No fun at all, and certainly not stress free. Fair play to those that do it, not for me though. At least I feel safe when I'm squashed against the window on a stationary train an hour after I should have arrived at work.
    Agree to a point that cycling is better - but depends massively on your route and work facilities, cycling from Charlton the length of the A2 and some to Vauxhall made me dislike cycling. Constantly on edge, people driving like morons and lemming face-in-phone pedestrians. If I had to turn 'right' at New Cross to head towards the City I can only imagine it gets even worse.

    Also rain in winter and the wind across Blackheath are total 'nopes' from me. Not forgetting coming home up Blackheath Hill with 35mins or so pollution rattling around the lungs... that was all too much like hard work every day. Has to be really bad to choose Southeastern, just wasn't for me. Prefer to cycle for fun... commute for *opposite of fun*.
  • Usual quality service, have been sitting outside Grove Park on a broken down train for 30 minutes.......
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