We should remember that the players who are getting us out of the mess are largely Powell players minus Kermogant and Stephens. I think Riga has done very well as he had a tough job, but the signing activity since RD took over has been largely negative. We don't know how we will go in the summer, but we should be concerned. Had the bloke been given a modicum of backing he would have brought us success, I'm sure of that.
But they say 'never go back' and I'm sure that it will be an easier gig (if such a thing exists in the modern day hire and fire world of pro footy) for CP to manage elsewhere without the attachment of the legend status.
We wi follow his career with continued interest and he will be exceptionally well received if he comes back and stands in the away technical area!
Too much man love going on in here. Yes I liked the guy. But it stopped there. He gave a good interview yesterday but I wouldn't have expected anything different. I often wonder if the people who say they love him actually know him. Likeable guy granted.
Too much man love going on in here. Yes I liked the guy. But it stopped there. He gave a good interview yesterday but I wouldn't have expected anything different. I often wonder if the people who say they love him actually know him. Likeable guy granted.
People can feel what they like about him without you dictating too much this, move on there, etc etc. Stop telling people what they should and shouldnt feel.
"When [RD's] plans were unveiled for the future of the club it didn't sit easy with him. It was getting tougher and tougher."
And this, in a nutshell, is why I have major question marks over RD, the network and the as yet unknown strategy, apart from the stated intention to breakeven.
Regardless of one's view re Powell's managerial capabilities, no-one can doubt his love for, understanding of, and commitment to Charlton Athletic Football Club. If Powell had serious reservations re the Duchatelet strategy, and could not reach agreement over "footballing issues" going forward, then that worries me big-time.
Powell said that RD bought in players he didn't consider good enough and has been proved right with JR not playing them either
Oh yeah, he certainly proved them right at Sheffield (Utd).
True, but it was still Powell and Powell's players that got us to Sheffield Utd. Is Riga also wrong to not be playing the likes of Thuram, Koch, Nego and Polish Pete then?
@Weegie Addick I think most of us are concerned with "the strategy" and "the network" and that is primarily because we don't know any of the detail. It does not surprise me that CP was unhappy with it, few British mangers would be happy with European styles of club management, and this is a development on that but that does not mean it is wrong.
For me the period we are in at the moment is a firefighting period and we don't really have a true reflection of what will happen going forward in running the club or transfers.
Once our league status has been established and over the summer months we will have a clearer idea of where RD will take us.
On the plus side we have seen the investment in the pitch and the academy being taken forward but in the negative we see the transfer dealings, which if repeated spell doom, but if improved could spearhead us towards a play off contention next season.
It's never easy being a Charlton fan and sometimes I wish we were in the age pre internet when we really did know nothing and just saw what was going on, on the pitch.
As much as I want Powell back as manager it'll never happen under RD. We'll have to wait until the club is sold again for that to happen.
Should this comment be for the joke thread. Nice man everyone knows but only some have the knowledge that he was a shit manager....now look what you made me do! Comment on bloody chris powell again. We are not safe yet but if he had stayed there was only way we were going and it wasn't essex.
So which bits of Powell's reign makes you come to the conclusion that he was a shit manager? Was it winning the league one title, but not beating Fulaham's record points total? Or only finishing 9th in our first year back in the Championship? Obviously most other managers would have smashed that league with that team wouldn't they? Or this season's cup run, culminating in that disappointing loss and being last in the league (with four games in hand), despite the old and new owners playing KerPlunk with his team?
"When [RD's] plans were unveiled for the future of the club it didn't sit easy with him. It was getting tougher and tougher."
And this, in a nutshell, is why I have major question marks over RD, the network and the as yet unknown strategy, apart from the stated intention to breakeven.
Regardless of one's view re Powell's managerial capabilities, no-one can doubt his love for, understanding of, and commitment to Charlton Athletic Football Club. If Powell had serious reservations re the Duchatelet strategy, and could not reach agreement over "footballing issues" going forward, then that worries me big-time.
Ssshhhhh, we're supposed to pretend everything is just fine! Put your head back in the sand and declare your love for Jose Riga, RD and Katrien!
"When [RD's] plans were unveiled for the future of the club it didn't sit easy with him. It was getting tougher and tougher."
And this, in a nutshell, is why I have major question marks over RD, the network and the as yet unknown strategy, apart from the stated intention to breakeven.
Regardless of one's view re Powell's managerial capabilities, no-one can doubt his love for, understanding of, and commitment to Charlton Athletic Football Club. If Powell had serious reservations re the Duchatelet strategy, and could not reach agreement over "footballing issues" going forward, then that worries me big-time.
Ssshhhhh, we're supposed to pretend everything is just fine! Put your head back in the sand and declare your love for Jose Riga, RD and Katrien!
There is fundamental difference on here between people focused primarily on winning at any cost. The other side, which I guess I am a part of, have a different type of emotional attachment to the club and at the core of that are the personalities that represent Charlton Athletic and ultimately us fans.
I want us to be successful of course, but it's tempered by my desire to feel an affinity with those playing/managing. Players come and go as do managers, but what worries me is how it appears that the network, like big corporations of which I work for one (WPP), take the personal side out of the business. I am growing to like Riga but seems like he won't be our manager/head coach next season, again you start to feel an affinity with someone and boom gone, could say the same about Astrit too. I think he's great but will he be here next season?
As others have said we'll see this summer I guess. I'm not sure I see us in any way similar to SL and comparisons are hard to make. A lot of people on here say "SL fans aren't moaning now they are top of the league" but they were always a big fish in a small pond in Belgium. Being competitive with players and managers I love watching is what's important to me and I don't think we needed radical changes to complete what Powell started. I don't believe RD is the devil and his plan may prove successful, just not sure I want Charlton to be "that" club.
"When [RD's] plans were unveiled for the future of the club it didn't sit easy with him. It was getting tougher and tougher."
And this, in a nutshell, is why I have major question marks over RD, the network and the as yet unknown strategy, apart from the stated intention to breakeven.
Regardless of one's view re Powell's managerial capabilities, no-one can doubt his love for, understanding of, and commitment to Charlton Athletic Football Club. If Powell had serious reservations re the Duchatelet strategy, and could not reach agreement over "footballing issues" going forward, then that worries me big-time.
Ssshhhhh, we're supposed to pretend everything is just fine! Put your head back in the sand and declare your love for Jose Riga, RD and Katrien!
"When [RD's] plans were unveiled for the future of the club it didn't sit easy with him. It was getting tougher and tougher."
And this, in a nutshell, is why I have major question marks over RD, the network and the as yet unknown strategy, apart from the stated intention to breakeven.
Regardless of one's view re Powell's managerial capabilities, no-one can doubt his love for, understanding of, and commitment to Charlton Athletic Football Club. If Powell had serious reservations re the Duchatelet strategy, and could not reach agreement over "footballing issues" going forward, then that worries me big-time.
Ssshhhhh, we're supposed to pretend everything is just fine! Put your head back in the sand and declare your love for Jose Riga, RD and Katrien!
Zzzzzz
No one asked you to open the thread.
I dont recall the thread being called 'lets slag off people that support the current board'
@Nug - so have you suddenly lost affinity with the players since Jose became manager? Is he not Charlton enough for you? (Genuine question, not a dig - we all have different measures/levels of judging such things.) It seems to me that despite a definitely European style and approach quite unlike CP's (not necessarily better OR worse) he seems to be in the proper Charlton mode - getting the players playing with and for each other, keeping calm and carrying on and bouncing back after potentially crushing defeats. Can't think what more you could realistically ask of any manager in his position frankly.
"When [RD's] plans were unveiled for the future of the club it didn't sit easy with him. It was getting tougher and tougher."
And this, in a nutshell, is why I have major question marks over RD, the network and the as yet unknown strategy, apart from the stated intention to breakeven.
Regardless of one's view re Powell's managerial capabilities, no-one can doubt his love for, understanding of, and commitment to Charlton Athletic Football Club. If Powell had serious reservations re the Duchatelet strategy, and could not reach agreement over "footballing issues" going forward, then that worries me big-time.
Ssshhhhh, we're supposed to pretend everything is just fine! Put your head back in the sand and declare your love for Jose Riga, RD and Katrien!
Zzzzzz
No one asked you to open the thread.
I dont recall the thread being called 'lets slag off people that support the current board'
I don't recall it being called 'Lets slag off people who dare to question the current board' either.
@thenewbie - as I said in my post I am growing to like him and I did not criticize him, he's done a great job so far. Is he Charlton enough? I'm not sure what that means, but put it this way, I doubt he will be here long enough for me to know and that's a shame, same for Astrit who I think is excellent and would love for him to be around a few seasons. That's my concern with being part of a network and I accept I'm probably in a minority. Hopefully I am wrong and Riga will stay and build on his good start, we'll be in the Championship, Hamer, Morrison, Astrit and Poyet sign on the dotted line and I see a lush green pitch at The valley next season.
"When [RD's] plans were unveiled for the future of the club it didn't sit easy with him. It was getting tougher and tougher."
And this, in a nutshell, is why I have major question marks over RD, the network and the as yet unknown strategy, apart from the stated intention to breakeven.
Regardless of one's view re Powell's managerial capabilities, no-one can doubt his love for, understanding of, and commitment to Charlton Athletic Football Club. If Powell had serious reservations re the Duchatelet strategy, and could not reach agreement over "footballing issues" going forward, then that worries me big-time.
Ssshhhhh, we're supposed to pretend everything is just fine! Put your head back in the sand and declare your love for Jose Riga, RD and Katrien!
Zzzzzz
No one asked you to open the thread.
I dont recall the thread being called 'lets slag off people that support the current board'
I don't recall it being called 'Lets slag off people who dare to question the current board' either.
@thenewbie - as I said in my post I am growing to like him and I did not criticize him, he's done a great job so far. Is he Charlton enough? I'm not sure what that means, but put it this way, I doubt he will be here long enough for me to know and that's a shame, same for Astrit who I think is excellent and would love for him to be around a few seasons. That's my concern with being part of a network and I accept I'm probably in a minority. Hopefully I am wrong and Riga will stay and build on his good start, we'll be in the Championship, Hamer, Morrison, Astrit and Poyet sign on the dotted line and I see a lush green pitch at The valley next season.
Doubt you're in the minority; I agree with that 110%. Your desire is essentially what's best for the club after all.
It's never easy being a Charlton fan and sometimes I wish we were in the age pre internet when we really did know nothing and just saw what was going on, on the pitch.
Rather than the current internet age where we still know nothing but all pretend we do?
It's never easy being a Charlton fan and sometimes I wish we were in the age pre internet when we really did know nothing and just saw what was going on, on the pitch.
Rather than the current internet age where we still know nothing but all pretend we do?
It's never easy being a Charlton fan and sometimes I wish we were in the age pre internet when we really did know nothing and just saw what was going on, on the pitch.
Rather than the current internet age where we still know nothing but all pretend we do?
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Such a pity he was not given 2mil when he got us up.
He will always be remembered as the manager who cleared out the negativity and gave us our club back.
I look forward to the day he returns.
We wi follow his career with continued interest and he will be exceptionally well received if he comes back and stands in the away technical area!
Likeable guy granted.
He still has a lot to learn as a manager and experience at clubs he has no ties too will do him the world of good.
And this, in a nutshell, is why I have major question marks over RD, the network and the as yet unknown strategy, apart from the stated intention to breakeven.
Regardless of one's view re Powell's managerial capabilities, no-one can doubt his love for, understanding of, and commitment to Charlton Athletic Football Club. If Powell had serious reservations re the Duchatelet strategy, and could not reach agreement over "footballing issues" going forward, then that worries me big-time.
For me the period we are in at the moment is a firefighting period and we don't really have a true reflection of what will happen going forward in running the club or transfers.
Once our league status has been established and over the summer months we will have a clearer idea of where RD will take us.
On the plus side we have seen the investment in the pitch and the academy being taken forward but in the negative we see the transfer dealings, which if repeated spell doom, but if improved could spearhead us towards a play off contention next season.
It's never easy being a Charlton fan and sometimes I wish we were in the age pre internet when we really did know nothing and just saw what was going on, on the pitch.
Was it winning the league one title, but not beating Fulaham's record points total?
Or only finishing 9th in our first year back in the Championship? Obviously most other managers would have smashed that league with that team wouldn't they?
Or this season's cup run, culminating in that disappointing loss and being last in the league (with four games in hand), despite the old and new owners playing KerPlunk with his team?
I want us to be successful of course, but it's tempered by my desire to feel an affinity with those playing/managing. Players come and go as do managers, but what worries me is how it appears that the network, like big corporations of which I work for one (WPP), take the personal side out of the business. I am growing to like Riga but seems like he won't be our manager/head coach next season, again you start to feel an affinity with someone and boom gone, could say the same about Astrit too. I think he's great but will he be here next season?
As others have said we'll see this summer I guess. I'm not sure I see us in any way similar to SL and comparisons are hard to make. A lot of people on here say "SL fans aren't moaning now they are top of the league" but they were always a big fish in a small pond in Belgium. Being competitive with players and managers I love watching is what's important to me and I don't think we needed radical changes to complete what Powell started. I don't believe RD is the devil and his plan may prove successful, just not sure I want Charlton to be "that" club.
The same way no one should be saying move on get over it
Now like Afka has said is time for everyone to feel how they want personally but support the current regime
It was great and was just honest. Told it how we see it and what it appeared to be.
It's also quite a sad story aswell in regards to Powell's departure.
Most people, in and out of Charlton, love Powell, simply because he's down to earth and just a nice bloke. Would speak on the same level to anyone.
Powell is a rare breed of football manager that does not have the typical big ego to go with it.