I agree with you MF, pathetic figures for the Championship...
Genuine figures. Not beefed up with a few thousand freebies or the dirt cheap season tickets that get sold but rarely used.
My point of sharing this though was the Charlton comment a few posts in.
I rarely ever LOL a post based on someone's opinion but this deserves one no doubt.
Genuine figures at Millwall and a few thousand freebies at Charlton?
All clubs inflate figures including your 'genuine' crowds at The Den.
Granted yes there will be some freebies at Charlton via the community Trust but again all clubs do this.
Your lot do love to try and get little wins here and there like the points you raised or number of times played at Wembley. All of which is just noise when you've never won an FA Cup or hosted Premier League football at The Den.
Top flight football didn’t start when the Premier league started.
Re freebies, obviously all clubs give a few away but it is well known in London football circles that Charlton give away thousands, especially since Roland has taken over and is trying to sell the club at a profit. He desperately needs the attendance figures to look better than they are.
Even if we do give away 'thousands' they're not going to be season tickets and nor bundled onto one match. Freebies on a match by match basis probably aren't enough to make any real impact into the official attendance. I understand the point you're making but I can't help but feel it has the usual Millwall slant on it to exaggerate the reality.
Personally I think it's a good thing to get heavily involved in the community and if that means a few freebies go out then great it's how you hook the kids in to come back a second time with the family, this time all paying instead of on a freebie. Maybe instead of looking at it as Charlton give away thousands of freebies the way to look at it could be, is my own club doing enough in the community to hook in new fans?
They give the freebies away and then count them in the attendance regardless of whether the person with the freebie turns up or not. Most don’t.
Bottom line is, when we’re going through the ringer and things are tough, Millwall and Charlton’s hardcore support is of a very similar size. Only difference is you have more delusions of grandeur, as you spent a fair time in the top flight recently and bussed a load of newbie fans in from the Home Counties with the promise of subsidised travel and cheap tickets. Those fans aren’t hardcore and won’t have the staying power of the more seasoned fan. As you’ve since found out.
Re the community, My club win lots of awards and credit for the work we do in our local community. It’s one of the few things we get right!
I'll accept the fact that yes a lot of our casual fans have drifted away but again you've proven my point when you talk about bussing fans in.
Subsidised tickets and travel or not we only bussed in fans that wanted to come, those fans were not frogmarched onto the busses at gunpoint. All the club did was supply the facilities to meet the demand. The fact you're talking about this as well as our community tickets shows indeed how successful we've been the fact Scally thought we were stealing Gills fans and the fact Millwall fans talk about freebies proves my point.
As for hardcore fan bases if you genuinely believe the core support is about the same as ours I'd suggest a dry January for you
Jesus Christ, touched a nerve there ain’t I?? Didn’t even think I was being out of order, but obviously being challenged on the perceived size of your club is a big issue to some of you? God knows why!
Also, made a point of only commenting about Millwall on a Millwall thread. Was I being that unreasonable?
If it bothers you that much I’ll f*** off. Happy new year.
Trust me gents I am Millwall scarred, 1st game I ever saw as a young lad we lost 4-3 at home (Valley) to guess who......................... Since that day only seen 3 other victories over 40 years of pain
Yea Yea dont gloat!!... Be nice for a lot of us just to see the one win
Couple of life long friends of mine are Millwall, even godfather to one of their kids, plus back in the day played in a team that had a few Millwall lads have to say all were damn good lads and one of them a real decent player who should have played at a much higher level, many a drunken night spent in the Old Kent road with them.
When you have all finished sucking off the tame Spanners on here...
Seriously though, the three on here seem like good all round eggs. I look forward to their further input on our forum. As long as it accompanies a blazzing death spiral and free fall to D3 for the bastards.
When you have all finished sucking off the tame Spanners on here...
Seriously though, the three on here seem like good all round eggs. I look forward to their further input on our forum. As long as it accompanies a blazzing death spiral and free fall to D3 for the bastards.
When you have all finished sucking off the tame Spanners on here...
Seriously though, the three on here seem like good all round eggs. I look forward to their further input on our forum. As long as it accompanies a blazzing death spiral and free fall to D3 for the bastards.
Love these little forays into grammar with BBW. On the one hand I never tire of the revelation that a Spanner can master the written word but I have just spent 10 minutes I will never get back checking where the question mark goes in my sentence.
Close this thread now. Reopen it in April for a quick check. ITFC disgrace. Too much time spent shooting over the John Deeres in the car park and not enough at Stillsmall.
Millwall fan is now fourth official how is this allowed.
Surely the FA should have a spare official incase of injury
Its the 3rd time he has done it apparently.
Sky said 2nd time this season with the other time being a win against Bolton(which was actually a draw), where he was cheering everytime the had a chance and jumped up and down when they scored.
Comments
Subsidised tickets and travel or not we only bussed in fans that wanted to come, those fans were not frogmarched onto the busses at gunpoint. All the club did was supply the facilities to meet the demand. The fact you're talking about this as well as our community tickets shows indeed how successful we've been the fact Scally thought we were stealing Gills fans and the fact Millwall fans talk about freebies proves my point.
As for hardcore fan bases if you genuinely believe the core support is about the same as ours I'd suggest a dry January for you
Also, thanks for the kind words.
A significant proportion of Millwall fans are neanderthals, in fact a higher proportion than most clubs - but they are not all like that.
You're loaded, apparently
Seriously though, the three on here seem like good all round eggs. I look forward to their further input on our forum. As long as it accompanies a blazzing death spiral and free fall to D3 for the bastards.
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blazzed
Love these little forays into grammar with BBW. On the one hand I never tire of the revelation that a Spanner can master the written word but I have just spent 10 minutes I will never get back checking where the question mark goes in my sentence.
https://www.grammar-monster.com/lessons/quotation_(speech)_marks_punctuation_in_or_out.htm
Surely the FA should have a spare official incase of injury