People are massively over complicating it on here. It's quite simple, if you gained points in the match where you fielded an ineligible player you lose those points. If you lost the game, there was obviously no advantage in fielding that player and there were no points gained, so you just get a fine for being idiots. It really is that simple.
But it does get complicated because teams have been deducted points after losing the game and as Blackpool were only issued with a fine it really isn't as clear cut as you make it sound.
Blackpool only got a fine rather than points deduction because they lost the game. That is consistent with @MillwallFan 's reasoning.
Either last season or the season before Torquay were deducted a point for fielding an ineligible player despite losing the match, the winning team were deducted 3 points for fielding an ineligible player and both were fined.
Im just pointing out that it isn't as clear cut as is being made out.
Personally i think they should be deducted 3 (i also think the opponents should get the win)
There was an inegilible player in both teams in the same fixture?
yes, league 2 match between Hereford United and Torquay Town
Mitigating circumstances could be if say the player only came on for the last five minutes and Rotherham were already 3 or 4 nil up. But that wasn't the case, he played the full 90 minutes, was voted MOM and they scrapped a tight 1 nil win. Rotherham will almost certainly lose 3 points, but don't get your knickers in a twist, as we will almost certainly still go down.
Where (if any) do you see your points coming from out of the last 3 games?
I think our best chance to get three points was at Cardiff and we blew it. Can't see us getting more than the odd point in the other three games, and Rotherham are almost certain to beat reading, and will probably get a point v Leeds so we'll be down anyway.
Mitigating circumstances could be if say the player only came on for the last five minutes and Rotherham were already 3 or 4 nil up. But that wasn't the case, he played the full 90 minutes, was voted MOM and they scrapped a tight 1 nil win. Rotherham will almost certainly lose 3 points, but don't get your knickers in a twist, as we will almost certainly still go down.
Where (if any) do you see your points coming from out of the last 3 games?
I think our best chance to get three points was at Cardiff and we blew it. Can't see us getting more than the odd point in the other three games, and Rotherham are almost certain to beat reading, and will probably get a point v Leeds so we'll be down anyway.
Wish I shared your optimism. You'll squeak out of it somehow, probably with a 98th minute wiiner off of someones backside against Wolves.
Mitigating circumstances could be if say the player only came on for the last five minutes and Rotherham were already 3 or 4 nil up. But that wasn't the case, he played the full 90 minutes, was voted MOM and they scrapped a tight 1 nil win. Rotherham will almost certainly lose 3 points, but don't get your knickers in a twist, as we will almost certainly still go down.
Where (if any) do you see your points coming from out of the last 3 games?
I think our best chance to get three points was at Cardiff and we blew it. Can't see us getting more than the odd point in the other three games, and Rotherham are almost certain to beat reading, and will probably get a point v Leeds so we'll be down anyway.
I thought you would beat Cardiff, and having just watched the football league show, Taylor Fletcher missed a sitter. Objectively speaking, Blackburn will be tough but (a big but) you might have a sniff. They don't have anything to play for. But they are a decent team so if they play to their maximum then they should win. I think you've hit Derby at the wrong time. They are the other side of their bad run and yes, they slipped up against Huddersfield, but they need to win given the other teams breathing down their neck. Plus I think your home record works against you. And then Wolves. They may be out of it come the last day. They have Wigan on Saturday. This is all best case scenario. You have a mountain to climb that's for sure. Just looking at it objectively
I reckon they'll do it. The fight at the top and bottom makes for a great final day of the season. I just hope we don't roll over for Bournemouth. Hate it when other teams celebrate on our ground.
I reckon they'll do it. The fight at the top and bottom makes for a great final day of the season. I just hope we don't roll over for Bournemouth. Hate it when other teams celebrate on our ground.
You know we'll roll over. Saturday did surprise me in some ways but the Bournemouth game is set up as a typical anticlimax Charlton stylie...
I can see Millsmall playing ugly again to get a draw at Blackburn. Norwich should beat Rotherham on Saturday and I do think the spanners can beat Derby as long as they get a man sent off and kick 'em off the park or as chopper says, something about looking after themselves and a proper Millsmall performance?!?? Minus 3 pts will make it win or bust for Rotherham. They should beat Reading but then it will be winner takes all. I have a feeling we'll be at the Toolbox again next season, no doubt not knowing whether to laugh or cry as the spanners show us their dad dancing moves to 'rocking all over the world' yet again.
People are massively over complicating it on here. It's quite simple, if you gained points in the match where you fielded an ineligible player you lose those points. If you lost the game, there was obviously no advantage in fielding that player and there were no points gained, so you just get a fine for being idiots. It really is that simple.
No advantage ? Without that player the result might have been much much worse.
People are massively over complicating it on here. It's quite simple, if you gained points in the match where you fielded an ineligible player you lose those points. If you lost the game, there was obviously no advantage in fielding that player and there were no points gained, so you just get a fine for being idiots. It really is that simple.
No advantage ? Without that player the result might have been much much worse.
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http://www.theguardian.com/football/2011/apr/06/hereford-torquay-points-deduction-ineligible
The fight at the top and bottom makes for a great final day of the season.
I just hope we don't roll over for Bournemouth. Hate it when other teams celebrate on our ground.
Millwall will lose all 3 and go down.
Stop worrying people.
Have you ever thought about taking up another pastime
The term `Rats and sinking ships' springs to mind.
Isn't Sparrows up yet? give him a shake MF.
Divide from within ;-)
yikes!