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England squad announced today?

Who are you praying isn't in the squad/reserves?

Please please Mr Hodgson, don't pick tom cleverley.
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  • Frontline9
    Frontline9 Posts: 764
    Oxlade Chamberlain and Ross Barkley. We won't get out the group playing them.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,728
    edited May 2014

    Oxlade Chamberlain and Ross Barkley. We won't get out the group playing them.

    Two of our best players? Right.
  • dwb
    dwb Posts: 137
    Ross Barkley should be one of the first names on the list!!
  • killer kish
    killer kish Posts: 2,019
    Ross Barkley should be in the starting 11.
    Glad to hear no A.Cole and hoping the following join him in staying at home!
    D.Wellbeck
    F.Lampard
    R.Lambert
    A.Carroll
    T.Cleverley
    And one final one i know I will get slaughtered for J.Hart.
  • Addicted
    Addicted Posts: 2,804
    edited May 2014

    Ross Barkley should be in the starting 11.
    Glad to hear no A.Cole and hoping the following join him in staying at home!
    D.Wellbeck
    F.Lampard
    R.Lambert
    A.Carroll
    T.Cleverley
    And one final one i know I will get slaughtered for J.Hart.

    Who would be your 5 forwards? Not sure why you wouldn't take Hart either, by far the best English keeper, its not even close.

    I'd like to see:

    Barkley
    Lallana (start)
    Sterling (start)
    Stones

    Hope not to see:

    Wellbeck (if he is there I dont want him starting)
    Cleverly
    Ox
    Smalling (same as Wellbeck)
    Barry
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Oxlade chamberlain is quality, been arsenals only decent player through their slump.

    If cleverly goes it would be devastating. Barkley should go, could come up with a cracking goal or two at a key moment like Owen against the argies.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,264
    Michael Carrick
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,133

    Michael Carrick

    Rumour has it, he has not made it, along with his Utd team mate Cleverly. http://www.charltonlife.com/discussion/61866/world-cup-2014-thread-edit-brazil-and-germany-announce-squads#latest
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,502
    Scott Parker

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  • sadiejane1981
    sadiejane1981 Posts: 9,012
    Talal said:

    Scott Parker

    I doubt it, he's 33
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059
    I really don't rate Welbeck, if he didn't play for United he'd be nowhere near the England team.

    If you assume Rooney, Sturridge and Sterling are the three forwards that start I'd take Defoe and Lambert to provide options off the bench.
  • Folev the red
    Folev the red Posts: 2,087
    People moan about Welbeck and Lambert, why exactly?

    Look at the 5 highest english goalscorers (strikers)
    Sturridge
    Rooney
    Rodriguez (injured)
    Lambert
    Welbeck

    If we're taking 4 strikers, like most other countries, then who else do we have thats any better?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,995

    Ross Barkley should be in the starting 11.
    Glad to hear no A.Cole and hoping the following join him in staying at home!
    D.Wellbeck
    F.Lampard
    R.Lambert
    A.Carroll
    T.Cleverley
    And one final one i know I will get slaughtered for J.Hart.

    Hart and Lambert???????

    Mental.
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Marv is in form
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,502

    Talal said:

    Scott Parker

    I doubt it, he's 33
    wasn't being serious
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059

    People moan about Welbeck and Lambert, why exactly?

    Look at the 5 highest english goalscorers (strikers)
    Sturridge
    Rooney
    Rodriguez (injured)
    Lambert
    Welbeck

    If we're taking 4 strikers, like most other countries, then who else do we have thats any better?

    I'd have Defoe for a start - 20 mins to go and England need a goal, I'd rather have Defoe as a plan B than Wellbeck as a (much) worse plan A.
  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678
    Heskey/Crouch dream double, surely?
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,875

    Heskey/Crouch dream double, surely?

    Lost respect for heskey retiring, not making himself available :)
  • A-R-T-H-U-R
    A-R-T-H-U-R Posts: 7,678
    Whaa?
    OMG!

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  • SMW28
    SMW28 Posts: 154
    Is this the Welbeck who scored 6 goals from his first 6 shots for England.
  • Addicted
    Addicted Posts: 2,804
    edited May 2014
    SMW28 said:

    Is this the Welbeck who scored 6 goals from his first 6 shots for England.

    Yes. Seem to remember Crouch having a pretty good record but wouldn't want him on the same continent.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,875
    Id rather carrol as I see him more of a dangerous threat in comparison to lambert, playing against the big teams etc. He offeres more of an alternative upfront.

    However that idea might be a load of crap after watching carrol vs City, and lambert is a better goal-scorer, it would be unfair choice without merit I guess....
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,599
    Welbeck is like Crouch in my opinion... He's one of these players made for International Football yet isnt brilliant at club level
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059
    edited May 2014
    SMW28 said:

    Is this the Welbeck who scored 6 goals from his first 6 shots for England.

    Are you sure that stat is right, I thought he didn't score in his first few appearances - are you saying he didn't even manage a shot on goal in his first three or four caps ?
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059
    Dave2l said:

    Id rather carrol as I see him more of a dangerous threat in comparison to lambert, playing against the big teams etc. He offeres more of an alternative upfront.

    However that idea might be a load of crap after watching carrol vs City, and lambert is a better goal-scorer, it would be unfair choice without merit I guess....

    Despite saying I'd take Defoe and Lambert I could see an argument to maybe cut one of them for Carrol as he does offer England another option - unfortunately you need someone like Nolan to be there to feed off of his knockdowns which means he in himself isn't a plan B.

    Plus he's mainly been rubbish this year.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,373
    edited May 2014
    Welbeck's first touch looks as though he is wearing huge 50p pieces as boots. Just comes off of him at random angles.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,995
    I think Lambert is more cut out for international football.

    Carroll would give away a free kick every 2 minutes. His gangly frame makes him look awkward and international referees can't work it out.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,389
    Think what you like about Wellbeck, he's one of the best technical players we have. If we're going to compete at WC level, he has to go. Anyone suggesting Carroll or Lambert should go ahead of him... I just can't understand.
  • SMW28
    SMW28 Posts: 154
    I think I've dreamt it. I really thought Clive Tyldesley said something of sorts against Scotland but haven't found online. God that Welbeck is pony isn't he.