England squad announced today?
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Don't want
Ashley young
Tom cleverly
Frank lampard
Want
Ross Barkley
Raheem Stirling1 -
I would like Defoe and Wickham as plan b striker to go instead of Wellbeck and Lambert/Carroll1
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As regards Hart i just think he will make a mistake that will cost us its just something I see in him all the time.Would rather see Forster in goal0
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Jon Flanagan worth a place? Can play right back and left back.1
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Cant agree with that personally.Chunes said:Think what you like about Wellbeck, he's one of the best technical players we have. If we're going to compete at WC level, he has to go. Anyone suggesting Carroll or Lambert should go ahead of him... I just can't understand.
Wellbeck does have the skill to do something, his goal against Sweden showed that, but against sterner opposition i think he struggles. As Tom says, his touch is woeful at times, and when he is bad…he is really bad. We've already got a similar player in Sturridge. Lambert gives us a different, more physical option. What i'd call a proper English centre forward.0 -
joe hart made some saves that were as good as goals for man city this season. By far the best keeper we have, who would you have in his stead!?!?killer kish said:As regards Hart i just think he will make a mistake that will cost us its just something I see in him all the time.Would rather see Forster in goal
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Id still like Lampard to be there as well. Another 46 appearances for Chelsea this season. Good to have amongst the younger players playing in there first major tournament, is reliable and can keep the ball, which could be crucial in the last 10 mins in the Brazilian humidity.2
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1-1 against Italy with 10 to go I would rather see an experienced hand like Lampard come on rather than Cleverly or Carrick. Not bad for set pieces either.ValleyGary said:Id still like Lampard to be there as well. Another 46 appearances for Chelsea this season. Good to have amongst the younger players playing in there first major tournament, is reliable and can keep the ball, which could be crucial in the last 10 mins in the Brazilian humidity.
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All (most) of the pundits seem to agree that the following should be on the plane:
HART, FORSTER
BAINES, CAHILL, JAGIELKA, JOHNSON, JONES
BARKLEY, CHAMBERLAIN, GERRARD, STERLING
ROONEY, STURRIDGE, WELBECK
Leaving 8 more spots (+1 GK) to be filled. I'd personally add
Butland in goal
Shaw in defence
Henderson, Lallana, Lampard, Milner in midfield
Lambert up front
Can't decide on the extra defender I'd take. Got to pick from Flanagan, Stones, Smalling, Dawson, Caulker...
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Are you honestly saying Hart is not one of the three best goalkeepers England currently have? Really?!killer kish said:As regards Hart i just think he will make a mistake that will cost us its just something I see in him all the time.Would rather see Forster in goal
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Rumoured stand-by list (according to the Guardian):
Andy Carroll (West Ham)
John Stones (Everton)
John Ruddy (Norwich)
Jermain Defoe (Toronto)
Tom Cleverley (Man Utd)
Jon Flanagan (Liverpool)
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I hear what you're saying, and if it was a premier league game I'd be likely to agree with you. But it's a different level, a different style, physicality doesn't play as much of a role at WC's as technical does.ValleyGary said:
Cant agree with that personally.Chunes said:Think what you like about Wellbeck, he's one of the best technical players we have. If we're going to compete at WC level, he has to go. Anyone suggesting Carroll or Lambert should go ahead of him... I just can't understand.
Wellbeck does have the skill to do something, his goal against Sweden showed that, but against sterner opposition i think he struggles. As Tom says, his touch is woeful at times, and when he is bad…he is really bad. We've already got a similar player in Sturridge. Lambert gives us a different, more physical option. What i'd call a proper English centre forward.
The 'English' approach has been failing for a long time now.
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Kentaddick as I said I'd rather Forster in goal also Hart has made mistakes that has cost City this season.All swings and roundabouts just would prefer Forster0
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I agree with your final sentence, but you are playing a very technical Uruguay team and they have stifled the attacked for 80 mins. You need a goal to go through. fans are screaming for the ball to get in the box. Id rather have Lambert to call upon. He wouldn't get in my starting 11 and neither would Welbeck, but off the bench i think Lambert is a plan B, and in a knockout tournament it can be crucial.Chunes said:
I hear what you're saying, and if it was a premier league game I'd be likely to agree with you. But it's a different level, a different style, physicality doesn't play as much of a role at WC's as technical does.ValleyGary said:
Cant agree with that personally.Chunes said:Think what you like about Wellbeck, he's one of the best technical players we have. If we're going to compete at WC level, he has to go. Anyone suggesting Carroll or Lambert should go ahead of him... I just can't understand.
Wellbeck does have the skill to do something, his goal against Sweden showed that, but against sterner opposition i think he struggles. As Tom says, his touch is woeful at times, and when he is bad…he is really bad. We've already got a similar player in Sturridge. Lambert gives us a different, more physical option. What i'd call a proper English centre forward.
The 'English' approach has been failing for a long time now.0 -
Would definitely take Lampard.
It seems as though every tournament there is this whole "lets not worry about how far we get, just blood the kids in" attitude. Sorry, but this is the WORLD CUP. Blooding young players in should be left to U21/friendly matches, not the grandest stage of them all.
If we do take a load of youngsters and they fail then people still won't be happy.
Just take the best team, as if you were preparing for a stretch of league games. All this "blooding in" is nonsense when you consider the fact that these men/kids play in the biggest league in the world week in and week out.4 -
I have never even heard of John Stones !0
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Don't be bitter boss :0)AFKABartram said:I have never even heard of John Stones !
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Mate of mine had a bet at the beginning of the season that Sturridge, Henderson, Sterling and Barkley would be going to the world cup.
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actually this is the first time in as long as i can remember that people have been saying this. All the other times its "this is our year, the golden generation will come good" etc. I think its refreshing not putting too much pressure on ourselves and see how we do.cafctom said:Would definitely take Lampard.
It seems as though every tournament there is this whole "lets not worry about how far we get, just blood the kids in" attitude. Sorry, but this is the WORLD CUP. Blooding young players in should be left to U21/friendly matches, not the grandest stage of them all.
If we do take a load of youngsters and they fail then people still won't be happy.
Just take the best team, as if you were preparing for a stretch of league games. All this "blooding in" is nonsense when you consider the fact that these men/kids play in the biggest league in the world week in and week out.2 -
1-1 against Italy?!?grumpyaddick said:
1-1 against Italy with 10 to go I would rather see an experienced hand like Lampard come on rather than Cleverly or Carrick. Not bad for set pieces either.ValleyGary said:Id still like Lampard to be there as well. Another 46 appearances for Chelsea this season. Good to have amongst the younger players playing in there first major tournament, is reliable and can keep the ball, which could be crucial in the last 10 mins in the Brazilian humidity.
Forget Lampard. I think seeing a Doctor might be more appropriate in your case.
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Really happy for Lambert, fantastic end to a quality year. Called up for the world cup.3
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Where have you seen that ?SELR_addicks said:Really happy for Lambert, fantastic end to a quality year. Called up for the world cup.
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'Sky sources' i.e. Probably another paper.1
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George Michael
Ricky Gervais
Adrian Chiles
Shane Ritchie
Gary Barlow
John McCririck
David Attenborough
Jim Davidson
Delia
Leo Sayer
Chris Eubank
Jack Dee
Michael Le Vell
Greg Dyke
Lady Sovereign
Pete Burns
Heather Mills
Peter Griffin
Vanessa Feltz
Bez
Linda Nolan
Tom Cleverley
Batman0 -
did you not see Lady Sovereign on Soccer AM a few years ago.
Scored a great goal.0 -
Tom Cleverly...do one.Callumcafc said:George Michael
Ricky Gervais
Adrian Chiles
Shane Ritchie
Gary Barlow
John McCririck
David Attenborough
Jim Davidson
Delia
Leo Sayer
Chris Eubank
Jack Dee
Michael Le Vell
Greg Dyke
Lady Sovereign
Pete Burns
Heather Mills
Peter Griffin
Vanessa Feltz
Bez
Linda Nolan
Tom Cleverley
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Stand-by list:
Bruce Forsyth
Jamie Oliver
Jeremy Clarkson
David Walliams
Danny Welbeck
Chris Smalling
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Did Bexley Dan get a call up?3
