Brazil World Cup 2014 - Betting Thread

ValleyGary

byl said:

ValleyGary said:

paulie8290 said:

ValleyGary said:

Kent_red said:

Don't see what Russia have that mean they are any better. Belgium all the way to the top of their group.

Experience at major tournaments and all of their players are home based, quite a few playing for the same domestic side.

I agree that Belgium have a talented pool of players, but so did we in 2006.

We'll see how they get on, but not sure i agree with the hype.

They England Squad who went to Germany in 2006 would IMO lose to the Belgium squad going to Brazil

Goalkeepers: Thibaut Courtois (Atletico Madrid, on loan from Chelsea), Simon Mignolet (Liverpool), Sammy Bossut (Zulte Waregem).

Defenders: Toby Alderweireld (Atlético Madrid), Laurent Ciman (Standard Liege), Vincent Kompany (Manchester City), Nicolas Lombaerts (Zenit), Daniel Van Buyten (Bayern Munich), Anthony Vanden Borre (Anderlecht), Thomas Vermaelen (Arsenal), Jan Vertonghen (Tottenham).

Midfielders: Nacer Chadli (Tottenham), Steven Defour (Porto), Moussa Dembélé (Tottenham), Marouane Fellaini (Manchester United), Axel Witsel (Zenit).

Forwards: Kevin De Bruyne (Wolfsburg), Eden Hazard (Chelsea), Adnan Januzaj (Manchester United), Romelu Lukaku (Everton), Dries Mertens (Napoli), Kevin Mirallas (Everton), Divock Origi (Lille)

Really?

They don't have natural full backs, Vertongen plays LB and Alderweireld plays RB but both are natural centre backs.

The midfield is ok, although Chadli/Dembele have been very average for Spurs, with Fellaini having a real stinker for Utd.

Mirallas and Lukaku are decent although playing for a team that has had no Continental experience, which would have helped coming into a major international tournament.

They are very strong centre of defence and have good wide players going forward, and their goalkeeper has had a very good season but as i said, its inexperienced on the major international stage. Who knows, that might be a good thing and they play without fear, but to me i think they are being overhyped and the Euros will be a better chance of success.

2006, England had Neville, Cole, Gerrard, Terry, Ferdinand, Beckham, Lampard, Rooney, Owen, Hargreaves. The most talented group of players we've had but once again a penalty shoot-out done us.

actually belgium has only 2 forwards in the selection: lukaku and origi. all the others that are listed as forwards are wingers/attacking midfielders, and can play in various midfield positions. Midfield is by far our strongets deparment, we have PLENTY of options there and even had to leaveout one of the better midfielders in serie A from the last season (nainggolan); it's annoying how much good players we have there.

alderweireld and verthonghen are both formed at ajax, so they are comfortable on the ball, alderweireld played mostly as left back at atletico madrid this season;
vertonghen has played right back as well some time at ajax and tottenham, so they are not uncomfortable in that position.

belgium will plays 4-5-1 when not controlling the game, when in controm they will move forwards from all sides whith many postion switches.
lukaku will play upfront on his own IF he is fit to start (he was subbed against tunisia when he suffered a kick, but looks tp be ok)
he's seems to be in real good form judging the last friendlies for belgium.

and btw chadli-dembele-felaini and mirallas will not be in starting line up for belgium, only dembele and maybe mirallas might be in the starting line up. Chadli might be is something happens to mertens or debruyne , felaini, does not start for belgium anymore (he did when he was at standard liege and everton, but since he had a bad season at Man united he doesn't start anymore).

Witsel is by far our best central midfielder.

starting line up for belgium will be probably
----------------courtois*-----------------
alderweireld-van buyten-kompany *- vertonghen
---------witsel*-(defour or dembele)---------
--------------de bruyne* ------------------
-mertens------------------------hazard*----
--------------lukaku*---------------------

* 99,9% garantueed starter
dembele probably against weaker opponents defour against stringer opponents

i expect belgium cruising through the group stages, i expect them to get 7or 9 points, after that it will come down to luck (germany or portugal in round of 16, if belgium proceed it will be probably argentina in the quarters...)

Well you know a lot more about Belgium than me Byl!!!

I still think no players with international tournament experience might be your downfall, along with a difficult round of 16 game. Euro 2016 will be your time.

C_Jensens_Love_Child

Anyone know if that Paddy Power top Goalscorer bet includes 10EW bets to recieve £5 free bets everytime you're player scores.

Lurker

Frontline9 said:

I'm still backing France. Expect them to win there group, cruise through the last 16 and into the quarters without even really being tested fully.

France outright?

jamiebcool

New coral customers. 2/1 for brazil to play in yellow against croatia! Tenner max bet.

Charlton_Stu

C_Jensens_Love_Child said:

Anyone know if that Paddy Power top Goalscorer bet includes 10EW bets to recieve £5 free bets everytime you're player scores.

Yes it does.

C_Jensens_Love_Child

Charlton_Stu said:

C_Jensens_Love_Child said:

Anyone know if that Paddy Power top Goalscorer bet includes 10EW bets to recieve £5 free bets everytime you're player scores.

Yes it does.

Cheers mate

Callumcafc

jamiebcool said:

New coral customers. 2/1 for brazil to play in yellow against croatia! Tenner max bet.

wtf? that's printing money??

BR7_addick

£30 on Argentina to win it 4/1
£20 on Spain to win it 5/1
£20 on Messi Golden Boot 7/1
£5 Spain, France, Argentina, Germany & Belgium to win their groups 9/1
£5 on Spain to win it & Costa top scorer 66/1

The Red Robin

Frontline9 said:

I'm still backing France. Expect them to win there group, cruise through the last 16 and into the quarters without even really being tested fully.

I think they're a real dark horse. Great squad, even without Ribery. Nice group and decent route to the final. I got them at 22/1 last week.

Welly

worth a punt
1965 -1966
athletico won la liga
madrid won europe cup
man city won there legue
palace finushed 11th
fulham got relegated
F A C score 3-2 with winner coming from 2 down
ENGLAND WON WORLD CUP

stackitsteve

except Fulham didn't get relegated

cafcfan1990

stackitsteve said:

except Fulham didn't get relegated

yes they did

MrOneLung

Not in 1965-66 season they didn't

stackitsteve

cafcfan1990 said:

stackitsteve said:

except Fulham didn't get relegated

yes they did

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965–66_in_English_football#First_Division

Shag

I've bought Bosnia , Russia and Japan on the group index . Bought Brazil and sold Holland on the outright index . Some other complicated world cup hamper index i've sold .

Will probably do some more tomorrow on cards , goals , corners

cafcfan1990

stackitsteve said:

cafcfan1990 said:

stackitsteve said:

except Fulham didn't get relegated

yes they did

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965–66_in_English_football#First_Division

sorry thought you were talking about the season just gone

stackitsteve

Sorry, I was replying to Wellys post re: England winning the world cup
For some reason my post didn't 'quote' the previous one

dizzee

Get on Chile handicap -1 v Australia.

C_Jensens_Love_Child

Aguero EW £10 10-1 with Paddy (Free £5 quid bet for every goal)
Argentina W £10 4-1 with Paddy (free £5 bet on Game tomorrow)
Aguero & Argentina £5 20-1
Ballotelli, Fred, Lukuku, Benzema to top score for there countries £2 85-1
Brazil, France, Spain & Argentina to top there groups £10 3.5-1

Mike

where's that balotelli, lukuku bet mate

Frontline9

I'm still backing France. Expect them to win there group, cruise through the last 16 and into the quarters without even really being tested fully.

The Red Robin said:

Frontline9 said:

I'm still backing France. Expect them to win there group, cruise through the last 16 and into the quarters without even really being tested fully.

I think they're a real dark horse. Great squad, even without Ribery. Nice group and decent route to the final. I got them at 22/1 last week.

I been backing them for a while now, taken 33's down to 25's. Really rate there chances

Charlton_Stu

Ladbrokes are offering 20/1 Neymer top scorer from 10/1, from 9pm until 1st goal is scored tonight, max bet is £10.

Bedsaddick

Charlton_Stu said:

Ladbrokes are offering 20/1 Neymer top scorer from 10/1, from 9pm until 1st goal is scored tonight, max bet is £10.

Can't see it personally. Now if that bet was for Messi then i would be all over it. I have a feeling this will be his tournament .

Sonicstud85

Will HIll Midday Bonanza.... first 50,000 bets you can get Brazil at Evens tonight.

Folev the red

Brazil 2/1 to win to nil tonight here https://iphone.paddypower.mobi/?i=1#!paddypower_betting_slip_iphone.t

chester_conrad

Sonicstud85 said:

Will HIll Midday Bonanza.... first 50,000 bets you can get Brazil at Evens tonight.

I got on that. Max bet was £20 per
person.,I got a few people from work to put on for me as well. Will prob go tits up.

paulie8290

jamiebcool said:

New coral customers. 2/1 for brazil to play in yellow against croatia! Tenner max bet.

What a surprise they are wearing yellow

Nicholas

Charlton_Stu said:

Ladbrokes are offering 20/1 Neymer top scorer from 10/1, from 9pm until 1st goal is scored tonight, max bet is £10.

Anyone else do this I got my tenner on as soon as they kicked off.

Absurdistan

took Brasil when 1-0 down at evens. Lovely Jubbly.

dizzee

For tomorrow I've got Chile -1 handicap, and then an accumulator of Spain and Chile both to win, plus an accumulator of Chile and the Uruguay to win next day v Costa Rica. Feeling good about these.