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As far as I'm aware at least up till last season they were all still plying their trade? Not sure I see your pointNorfolk_Addick said:
Yeah but where are they now?uncle said:
Ferdinand, Cole, Carrick, Lampard, Johnson. All regular England players from around the same era. So before you start spouting bollox have a little think. How many other clubs had that many players playing for England at any one time? I'm guessing not to bloody many. So it wasn't a bad academy after all.
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Oh so it was a crap academy for producing that batch of players.... Jesus Christ, you couldn't make it up. Is everyone 7 years old on here or just mental?JiMMy 85 said:
Rio was often derided for his decision making, nobody thought Frank would turn into the player he did at Chelsea. Cole flattered to deceive. Carrick only went to a big club after he became a player at Spurs. Johnson went to 34 clubs before settling down. Theory checks out.charltonkeston said:
No, you mis-understand, Defoe quite often is said to have been another product of their system.sunbury-addick said:
Your point is ? Local kids done well - "The West Ham Way" - what,where,when?charltonkeston said:Ferdinand, Cole, Carrick, Lampard, Johnson and not forgetting Defoe.
IMO all five developed as players post West Ham.
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charltonkeston said:
No, you mis-understand, Defoe quite often is said to have been another product of their system.sunbury-addick said:
Your point is ? Local kids done well - "The West Ham Way" - what,where,when?charltonkeston said:Ferdinand, Cole, Carrick, Lampard, Johnson and not forgetting Defoe.
IMO all five developed as players post West Ham.
As will be the case of everyone that leaves Charlton academy for bigger and better things. When young players leave they are pretty much going to develop more. Jenkinson became a better player at arsenal, jonjo became a better player at liverpool, defoe became a better player at west ham.... It would be strange if they never. Does that mean charlton didn't produce them? Oh it's only if it's west ham players.
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Your charlton anyway what you worried about a bunch of irons for0
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Oh I'm not worried, just cant stand all the shite people come out with. Anyway, how's you, you ugly feckernth london addick said:Your charlton anyway what you worried about a bunch of irons for
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You obviously haven't read that properly have you my little friend.... Here, let me help you, here is the first paragraph...charltonkeston said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Devonshire
Played for West Ham but wiki might need some correction
Alan Ernest Devonshire (born 13 April 1956) is an English former footballer who is the current manager of Braintree Town. He was a wide midfielder who played for West Ham United and Watford where he finished his career. Devonshire won eight caps for England between 1980 and 1983. He subsequently became a manager with Maidenhead United, Hampton & Richmond Borough and his current club, Braintree Town.
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But bless you for trying to be all clever.charltonkeston said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Devonshire
Played for West Ham but wiki might need some correction
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Wow, only 8 caps in 3 years for a player as good as Dev was on his day. Who would he have been up against for that position back then, Coppell?uncle said:
You obviously haven't read that properly have you my little friend.... Here, let me help you, here is the first paragraph...charltonkeston said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Devonshire
Played for West Ham but wiki might need some correction
Alan Ernest Devonshire (born 13 April 1956) is an English former footballer who is the current manager of Braintree Town. He was a wide midfielder who played for West Ham United and Watford where he finished his career. Devonshire won eight caps for England between 1980 and 1983. He subsequently became a manager with Maidenhead United, Hampton & Richmond Borough and his current club, Braintree Town.0 -
I alright mate smashed in Newquay don't get much better2
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No, everyone's a Charlton fan.uncle said:
Oh so it was a crap academy for producing that batch of players.... Jesus Christ, you couldn't make it up. Is everyone 7 years old on here or just mental?JiMMy 85 said:
Rio was often derided for his decision making, nobody thought Frank would turn into the player he did at Chelsea. Cole flattered to deceive. Carrick only went to a big club after he became a player at Spurs. Johnson went to 34 clubs before settling down. Theory checks out.charltonkeston said:
No, you mis-understand, Defoe quite often is said to have been another product of their system.sunbury-addick said:
Your point is ? Local kids done well - "The West Ham Way" - what,where,when?charltonkeston said:Ferdinand, Cole, Carrick, Lampard, Johnson and not forgetting Defoe.
IMO all five developed as players post West Ham.
The clue's in the forum name.
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"you can't trust what you read on wikipedia"
it's as accurate, if not more so than the encyclopaedia brittanica0 -
Honestly, I just wish you'd take your anger someplace else. I've enjoyed this thread, but it's been sullied by some really silly angry people.uncle said:
Oh so it was a crap academy for producing that batch of players.... Jesus Christ, you couldn't make it up. Is everyone 7 years old on here or just mental?JiMMy 85 said:
Rio was often derided for his decision making, nobody thought Frank would turn into the player he did at Chelsea. Cole flattered to deceive. Carrick only went to a big club after he became a player at Spurs. Johnson went to 34 clubs before settling down. Theory checks out.charltonkeston said:
No, you mis-understand, Defoe quite often is said to have been another product of their system.sunbury-addick said:
Your point is ? Local kids done well - "The West Ham Way" - what,where,when?charltonkeston said:Ferdinand, Cole, Carrick, Lampard, Johnson and not forgetting Defoe.
IMO all five developed as players post West Ham.1 -
You're wrong my big friend, I actually read all of it,The blurb on the right hand side under his photo misses the word wide, hence my comment. You might want to log in and insert the word winger.uncle said:
You obviously haven't read that properly have you my little friend.... Here, let me help you, here is the first paragraph...charltonkeston said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Devonshire
Played for West Ham but wiki might need some correction
Alan Ernest Devonshire (born 13 April 1956) is an English former footballer who is the current manager of Braintree Town. He was a wide midfielder who played for West Ham United and Watford where he finished his career. Devonshire won eight caps for England between 1980 and 1983. He subsequently became a manager with Maidenhead United, Hampton & Richmond Borough and his current club, Braintree Town.
I get the feeling from your last few posts there's a lot of anger in you.uncle said:
But bless you for trying to be all clever.charltonkeston said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Devonshire
Played for West Ham but wiki might need some correction2 -
Hahaha you there on Hols?nth london addick said:I alright mate smashed in Newquay don't get much better
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Actually not everyone on charlton life is a Charlton fan, there are many that are not and we are now discussing West Ham so your point is?Redskin said:
No, everyone's a Charlton fan.uncle said:
Oh so it was a crap academy for producing that batch of players.... Jesus Christ, you couldn't make it up. Is everyone 7 years old on here or just mental?JiMMy 85 said:
Rio was often derided for his decision making, nobody thought Frank would turn into the player he did at Chelsea. Cole flattered to deceive. Carrick only went to a big club after he became a player at Spurs. Johnson went to 34 clubs before settling down. Theory checks out.charltonkeston said:
No, you mis-understand, Defoe quite often is said to have been another product of their system.sunbury-addick said:
Your point is ? Local kids done well - "The West Ham Way" - what,where,when?charltonkeston said:Ferdinand, Cole, Carrick, Lampard, Johnson and not forgetting Defoe.
IMO all five developed as players post West Ham.
The clue's in the forum name.
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I don't have anger, just a different view to you. If you would like my views to stop then stop quoting what I say. Your views imho are pathetic but you are entitled to them. You seem to think that although they all came from the west ham academy there success and talent is nothing to do with west ham. Yet everyone on here wants to claim defoe is a product of charlton despite leaving so young... Absolute tosh! You can't have all waysJiMMy 85 said:
Honestly, I just wish you'd take your anger someplace else. I've enjoyed this thread, but it's been sullied by some really silly angry people.uncle said:
Oh so it was a crap academy for producing that batch of players.... Jesus Christ, you couldn't make it up. Is everyone 7 years old on here or just mental?JiMMy 85 said:
Rio was often derided for his decision making, nobody thought Frank would turn into the player he did at Chelsea. Cole flattered to deceive. Carrick only went to a big club after he became a player at Spurs. Johnson went to 34 clubs before settling down. Theory checks out.charltonkeston said:
No, you mis-understand, Defoe quite often is said to have been another product of their system.sunbury-addick said:
Your point is ? Local kids done well - "The West Ham Way" - what,where,when?charltonkeston said:Ferdinand, Cole, Carrick, Lampard, Johnson and not forgetting Defoe.
IMO all five developed as players post West Ham.
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I don't need to log in to insert anything. Having not missed a west ham match home or away in the 80's I think I am more than able to know where someone played without having to use the internet to find outcharltonkeston said:
You're wrong my big friend, I actually read all of it,The blurb on the right hand side under his photo misses the word wide, hence my comment. You might want to log in and insert the word winger.uncle said:
You obviously haven't read that properly have you my little friend.... Here, let me help you, here is the first paragraph...charltonkeston said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Devonshire
Played for West Ham but wiki might need some correction
Alan Ernest Devonshire (born 13 April 1956) is an English former footballer who is the current manager of Braintree Town. He was a wide midfielder who played for West Ham United and Watford where he finished his career. Devonshire won eight caps for England between 1980 and 1983. He subsequently became a manager with Maidenhead United, Hampton & Richmond Borough and his current club, Braintree Town.
I get the feeling from your last few posts there's a lot of anger in you.uncle said:
But bless you for trying to be all clever.charltonkeston said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Devonshire
Played for West Ham but wiki might need some correction
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My point is this:if you 'can't stand all the shite people come out with.'well, the simple solution to that is so glaringly obvious, it doesn't warrant mentioning.uncle said:
Oh I'm not worried, just cant stand all the shite people come out with. Anyway, how's you, you ugly feckernth london addick said:Your charlton anyway what you worried about a bunch of irons for
Ultimately, no - one really gives a fuck about your claret and blue, bubble factory but if they are so inclined, they can criticise it, ridicule it or laugh in its face. This is not a West Ham forum, if you want to find like - minded souls who wax lyrical over Devonshire you know where to go.
Recently on here, a poster was run out of town because people simply didn't like the cut of his jib. Yet, you with your aggression and threats -not on this thread - are still here.
It's good to have friends in high places.
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Says the guy who provided seven vitriol-fuelled posts in nine.uncle said:
Oh I'm not worried, just cant stand all the shite people come out with. Anyway, how's you, you ugly feckernth london addick said:Your charlton anyway what you worried about a bunch of irons for
Stop quoting you? I've engaged with you once the entire time I've been aware of your presence on this site, and for good reason.uncle said:
I don't have anger, just a different view to you. If you would like my views to stop then stop quoting what I say. Your views imho are pathetic but you are entitled to them. You seem to think that although they all came from the west ham academy there success and talent is nothing to do with west ham. Yet everyone on here wants to claim defoe is a product of charlton despite leaving so young... Absolute tosh! You can't have all waysJiMMy 85 said:
Honestly, I just wish you'd take your anger someplace else. I've enjoyed this thread, but it's been sullied by some really silly angry people.uncle said:
Oh so it was a crap academy for producing that batch of players.... Jesus Christ, you couldn't make it up. Is everyone 7 years old on here or just mental?JiMMy 85 said:
Rio was often derided for his decision making, nobody thought Frank would turn into the player he did at Chelsea. Cole flattered to deceive. Carrick only went to a big club after he became a player at Spurs. Johnson went to 34 clubs before settling down. Theory checks out.charltonkeston said:
No, you mis-understand, Defoe quite often is said to have been another product of their system.sunbury-addick said:
Your point is ? Local kids done well - "The West Ham Way" - what,where,when?charltonkeston said:Ferdinand, Cole, Carrick, Lampard, Johnson and not forgetting Defoe.
IMO all five developed as players post West Ham.
My comments were flippant. I don't give a rats ass about you or west ham. I don't really care what I said or whether I meant it. Hence 'flippant'.
What I take issue with is your obsessiveness. Your utterly ridiculous barrage of posts that are ruining a fun thread. You've posted 14 times in two pages. Is there genuinely a part of you that believes people want you to post that much?
You sir, strike me as a fool who would do better than to open his mouth and remove all doubt. Although it's a little late for that.6 - Sponsored links:
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Fun thread ruined. Hush now uncle.1
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Someone needs a hug!uncle said:Greenie said:
Your so calked great academy is still a myth though!uncle said:A winger is completely different to a central midfield player so should not be compared. Why did you not pick 2 other wingers from around that time that he was nothing compared to?
What with you obviously being someone that doesn't like West Ham would choose hoddle.
And you didnt win the World Cup!
My so calked?? I didn't play in the world cup but if you want to talk bollox for a while I can do that. West Ham did have a very good academy and if you think they didn't you are talking out of your arse.
Ferdinand, Cole, Carrick, Lampard, Johnson. All regular England players from around the same era. So before you start spouting bollox have a little think. How many other clubs had that many players playing for England at any one time? I'm guessing not to bloody many. So it wasn't a bad academy after all.
Looking at the 4-5 good players produced by your academy who played for England at the same time, it happened in one small window. Its not been consistent enough to call it The Academy of Football and for Irons fans to keep rattling on about it as if only West Ham produce academy footballers.0 -
West Ham do have a silly name though!4
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Everyone has a double somewhere in the world0
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That one in every five people is Chinese. I sat in a pub with 32 other people the other night, and not one of them was Oriental...0
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For people that "don't give a rats ass" and "don't give a fuck" You've spent a hell of a lot of time going on about it. So I have to hush or be run out of town because I don't agree with all you little cyber bullies. Hahaha get a life you nobs.2
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How many times ? - what team / era best represent the West Ham way ? - to quote you (roughly) "its not rocket science", proper cyber bully (k)nob me.
EDIT: just remembered, said I wasn't posting again on this thread, apologies - ciao0 -
Beckham butt scholes and the nevillesuncle said:Greenie said:
Your so calked great academy is still a myth though!uncle said:A winger is completely different to a central midfield player so should not be compared. Why did you not pick 2 other wingers from around that time that he was nothing compared to?
What with you obviously being someone that doesn't like West Ham would choose hoddle.
And you didnt win the World Cup!
My so calked?? I didn't play in the world cup but if you want to talk bollox for a while I can do that. West Ham did have a very good academy and if you think they didn't you are talking out of your arse.
Ferdinand, Cole, Carrick, Lampard, Johnson. All regular England players from around the same era. So before you start spouting bollox have a little think. How many other clubs had that many players playing for England at any one time? I'm guessing not to bloody many. So it wasn't a bad academy after all.
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Crisp bags are made to look bigger than the contents require. Not entirely true, they are filled with gas to keep the crisps crispy.0
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Mind you I had a large Whisky in Tokyo and it cost me £24thai malaysia addick said:Everyone has a double somewhere in the world
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