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    Wearing a bin liner or cling film around your belly and sitting in the sauna for an hour helps you burn fat.
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    Religion.
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    "Cannabis is a gateway drug".
    It goes like this:
    "Every junkie starts on cannabis, then they work their way on to harder and harder drugs so if they didn't smoke cannabis they won't have drug problems".

    No. Nonononononono.

    Only people who find that cannabis doesn't do it for them will work their way onto harder and harder drugs. Eventually they find one they like and stick with it, be that heroin, crack, ecstasy, bare knuckle fighting or Glenlivet.



    This is a logical fallacy we covered quite early on when doing Logic 'O' Level (not that they mentioned cannabis). If we accept that all users of hard drugs smoked cannabis, you cannot deduce from that that all people who smoked cannabis are hard drug users. It's like saying 'All elephants have four feet, therefor all four-footed animals are elephants'.
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    Bit harsh
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    A myth is a female moth.
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    That the popular champagne company Moët is pronounced Mo-a. It's not, it's pronounced exactly how you would want to pronounce it; Mo-et. But if you say it right, you look like the fool. It's a sick joke on the people in the know. But I don't need to say it very often so it's a minor problem to live with.
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    DiscoCAFC said:

    99% of stuff posted on Facebook about immigrants and Muslims.

    That global warming isn't happening

    Why do you think global warming exist's when the science has not even been settled yet?
    Why do you think it doesn't?
    The World climate changes all the time and just because temperatures have broken then everyone seems to think we are heading for disaster. Let's not forget the medievil warm period when it was warmer than it is today and ever wondered why Greenland is called Greenland? Because their was an colony hundreds of years ago before the land frozen.

    Not all scientists are saying Global Warming is happening, some are saying we are heading to a period of global cooling.

    I'm not a denier, I just don't see any real evidence to suggest it is happening when looking at the history of the weather in this Country.
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    edited July 2014
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    edited July 2014

    It's like saying 'All elephants have four feet, therefor all four-footed animals are elephants'.

    Sorry, I don't understand what you are trying to say. I took my elephant out for a walk just now, and if he hadn't been on a lead he would have chased an elephant across the road, the furry little rascal. But mostly he is well behaved. He never responds to the annoying elephants next door with their constant yapping. (That's my elephant there, bless him, in the picture next to my username).
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    seth plum said:

    A myth is a female moth.


    Err, it's an UNMARRIED female moth, Seth.

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    edited July 2014

    "Cannabis is a gateway drug".
    It goes like this:
    "Every junkie starts on cannabis, then they work their way on to harder and harder drugs so if they didn't smoke cannabis they won't have drug problems".

    No. Nonononononono.

    Only people who find that cannabis doesn't do it for them will work their way onto harder and harder drugs. Eventually they find one they like and stick with it, be that heroin, crack, ecstasy, bare knuckle fighting or Glenlivet.



    This is a logical fallacy we covered quite early on when doing Logic 'O' Level (not that they mentioned cannabis). If we accept that all users of hard drugs smoked cannabis, you cannot deduce from that that all people who smoked cannabis are hard drug users. It's like saying 'All elephants have four feet, therefor all four-footed animals are elephants'.
    ...and yet quite reasonable people still spout it in every drug awareness training I run so I have to spend 20 minutes discussing it.
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    as a longtime health practitioner, where do i begin with the deeply held, routinely espoused, societally embraced myths i regularly encounter...here are a few to start with:

    x food/substance gives me quick energy

    the contagious premise, ie. "i caught a cold", "there is something going round..."

    the best/only source of protein is flesh

    there are cures

    x food grows muscle

    the best/only source of calcium are dairy products

    you must ice the inflammation

    "i have diabetes, i can't have fruit"

    they removed "the cancer" and everything is fine now

    if i stop taking taking the drugs/"medication" i will die

    etc. etc. etc. etc.

    (i help (receptive) clients disprove, expose & explode such myths, and myriad others each day, albeit that i do understand the above may be contentious to some...)
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    as a longtime health practitioner, where do i begin with the deeply held, routinely espoused, societally embraced myths i regularly encounter...here are a few to start with:

    x food/substance gives me quick energy

    the contagious premise, ie. "i caught a cold", "there is something going round..."

    the best/only source of protein is flesh

    there are cures

    x food grows muscle

    the best/only source of calcium are dairy products

    you must ice the inflammation

    "i have diabetes, i can't have fruit"

    they removed "the cancer" and everything is fine now

    if i stop taking taking the drugs/"medication" i will die

    etc. etc. etc. etc.

    (i help (receptive) clients disprove, expose & explode such myths, and myriad others each day, albeit that i do understand the above may be contentious to some...)

    When you say "health practitioner"...
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    se9addick said:

    as a longtime health practitioner, where do i begin with the deeply held, routinely espoused, societally embraced myths i regularly encounter...here are a few to start with:

    x food/substance gives me quick energy

    the contagious premise, ie. "i caught a cold", "there is something going round..."

    the best/only source of protein is flesh

    there are cures

    x food grows muscle

    the best/only source of calcium are dairy products

    you must ice the inflammation

    "i have diabetes, i can't have fruit"

    they removed "the cancer" and everything is fine now

    if i stop taking taking the drugs/"medication" i will die

    etc. etc. etc. etc.

    (i help (receptive) clients disprove, expose & explode such myths, and myriad others each day, albeit that i do understand the above may be contentious to some...)

    When you say "health practitioner"...
    people come to the health center at which i practice and i guide them, if...they are receptive and want results...
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    God help us all....

    indeed valley gary, though believers in divine providence are a shade harder to help...:>)
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    God help us all....

    God is a myth, keep up with the thread G ;-)
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    Another myth:

    If you ignore internet trolls they will go away.
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    Darren Ambrose is gay.
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    Another myth:

    If you ignore internet trolls they will go away.

    Is that aimed at SH2tropics?

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    JiMMy 85 said:

    DiscoCAFC said:

    DiscoCAFC said:

    99% of stuff posted on Facebook about immigrants and Muslims.

    That global warming isn't happening

    Why do you think global warming exist's when the science has not even been settled yet?
    Why do you think it doesn't?
    The World climate changes all the time and just because temperatures have broken then everyone seems to think we are heading for disaster. Let's not forget the medievil warm period when it was warmer than it is today and ever wondered why Greenland is called Greenland? Because their was an colony hundreds of years ago before the land frozen.

    Not all scientists are saying Global Warming is happening, some are saying we are heading to a period of global cooling.

    I'm not a denier, I just don't see any real evidence to suggest it is happening when looking at the history of the weather in this Country.


    Did you not see Stig's post? Was it like a colour blind test and you literally cannot see the words?
    Yes I did and I did not have much time to reply back until now, before you start being patronising.

    Now some of my evidence:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2415191/And-global-COOLING-Return-Arctic-ice-cap-grows-29-year.html

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/10294082/Global-warming-No-actually-were-cooling-claim-scientists.html

    http://joannenova.com.au/2014/06/big-news-viii-new-solar-model-predicts-imminent-global-cooling/

    http://rt.com/usa/171656-patrick-moore-global-cooling/

    http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/10/31/russian-academy-of-sciences-global-warming-over-in-central-asia-current-temps-not-unique-cooler-era-ahead/

    http://www.globalclimatescam.com/category/global-cooling/
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    Catching a cold from being cold/ wet. Where did the virus enter the equation here?
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    Stig said:

    DiscoCAFC said:

    99% of stuff posted on Facebook about immigrants and Muslims.

    That global warming isn't happening

    Why do you think global warming exist's when the science has not even been settled yet?
    You are joking, aren't you?

    Climate change is one of the defining issues of our time. It is now more certain than ever, based on many lines of evidence, that humans are changing Earth’s climate”. The Royal Society, Feb 2014

    "Most climate scientists agree the main cause of the current global warming trend is human expansion of the greenhouse effect”. NASA, 2014

    "Scientific research shows that the climate - that is, the average temperature of the planet's surface - has risen by 0.89 °C from 1901 to 2012. Compared with climate change patterns throughout Earth's history, the rate of temperature rise since the Industrial Revolution is extremely high". The Met Office, February 2014

    "It is clear from extensive scientific evidence that the dominant cause of the rapid change in climate of the past half century is human-induced increases in the amount of atmospheric greenhouse gases, including carbon dioxide (CO2), chlorofluorocarbons, methane, and nitrous oxide." American Meteorological Society, 2012

    "Although the earth’s climate has changed considerably in the past (and will due in the future) because of natural factors, it is very likely that most of the global temperature rise observed since the middle of the last century has been caused by increasing greenhouse gases in the atmosphere from human activities such as fossil-fuel burning'. Royal Meteorological Society, 2014

    "The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur. We must reduce emissions of greenhouse gases beginning now." American Physical Society (2007)

    Of the more than 29,000 observational data series, from 75 studies, that show significant change in many physical and biological systems, more than 89% are consistent with the direction of change expected as a response to warming” Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, 2007

    "Climate change is happening now. The U.S. and the world are warming, global sea level is rising, and some types of extreme weather events are becoming more frequent and more severe". US Global Change Research Program, May 2014

    Rapid change is unfolding throughout the Arctic: A warming climate is reshaping Arctic ecosystems, causing the loss of sea ice and glaciers, thawing of permafrost, and changing snow patterns”. US National Academy of Sciences, April 2014

    "By the end of this century, droughts in Europe are expected to be more frequent and intense due to climate change and increased water use". European Geosciences Union, January 2014

    Unfortunately, humanity, through energy generation, changing land use and other processes, has produced a substantial increase in the amount of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, enhancing the natural greenhouse effect, and it is feared that this continuing change will lead to a major shift in global climate”. University of East Anglia, Climatic Research Unit, 2000

    "Glaciers are melting, sea levels are rising, cloud forests are drying, and wildlife is scrambling to keep pace. It's becoming clear that humans have caused most of the past century's warming by releasing heat-trapping gases as we power our modern lives. Called greenhouse gases, their levels are higher now than in the last 650,000 years". National Geographic, 2014

    "There is an overwhelming scientific consensus worldwide, and a broad political consensus, that greenhouse gas emissions are affecting global climate, and that measures are needed to reduce these emissions significantly so as to limit the extent of climate change". Society of Biology, 2014

    "The scientific evidence is clear: global climate change caused by human activities is occurring now, and it is a growing threat to society." American Association for the Advancement of Science, 2006

    "Antarctic ice cores reveal the clearest link between levels of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and the Earth's temperature. They show that the temperature of the climate and the levels of greenhouse gases are intimately linked". British Antarctic Survey, 2014

    "It is clear that major efforts are necessary to quickly and strongly reduce CO2 emissions". European Federation of Geologists, 2008

    "Comprehensive scientific assessments of our current and potential future climates clearly indicate that climate change is real, largely attributable to emissions from human activities, and potentially a very serious problem." American Chemical Society, 2004

    "Human‐induced climate change requires urgent action. Humanity is the major influence on the global climate change observed over the past 50 years. Rapid societal responses can significantly lessen negative outcomes." American Geophysical Union, Adopted 2003, revised and reaffirmed 2007, 2012, 2013

    "The Geological Society of America (GSA) concurs with assessments by the National Academies of Science (2005), the National Research Council (2006), and the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC, 2007) that global climate has warmed and that human activities (mainly greenhouse‐gas emissions) account for most of the warming since the middle 1900s." The Geological Society of America (2006; revised 2010)
    yeah, but Nigel Lawson and his GWPF nutters (along with the Daily Mail) says it doesn't exist, so it can't be true.

    actually the GWPF are not nutters. Lawson is an neo-liberal arch capitalist who sees such science as getting in the way of him and his mates making money. There is a strong not coincidental link between GWPF and people with a financial interest in fracking companies. Th Global Warming Policy Foundation looks, from the outside, like a cynical attempt to discredit the science that points to global warming to allow through policy which will let them start fracking and make financial gain.
    Even if Global Warming exists, we would not be achieving anything by using cleaner energy because Countries like China and India are building Coal Fire Power stations. Cheaper energy in these Countries but more expensive in the EU Countries.
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    Greenie said:

    Morrisey he annoys me!

    Wait, is it a myth that Morrisey annoys you, or do you believe that Morrisey himself is a myth?
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    That football existed before Sky.
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    Free houses
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