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  • WestSA
    WestSA Posts: 62

    South Africa, having won the toss and elected to bat scored 411-4 off their 50. First team ever to score 400 plus in consecutive matches in the W C.

    De Koch 1 (4)
    Amla 159 (128)
    Du Plessis 109 (109)
    A B V 24 (9)
    Miller 46* (23)
    Rousseau 61* (30)

    What's the bet A B V takes the gloves when Duminy is fit?

    Don't think that will happen. AB struggled with his back when he kept in the ODI series against the Windies before the World Cup. Understand de kock hasn't been performing but he's come back from an injury and they rate him highly. Think you'll see when Duminy is back they will play rossouw instead of behardien, who is rubbish, at the 7th spot. Think that's why rossouw is bowling now so that they can see if he can contribute a few overs.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    129-6.

    Balbirnie out for 58, the highest score by an Irish batsman against S A.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167

    129-6.

    Balbirnie out for 58, the highest score by an Irish batsman against S A.

    Amazing stat. Must save that one to drop into conversation sometime in the future.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    Riviera said:

    129-6.

    Balbirnie out for 58, the highest score by an Irish batsman against S A.

    Amazing stat. Must save that one to drop into conversation sometime in the future.
    Haven't you got a pub to open?
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    WestSA said:

    South Africa, having won the toss and elected to bat scored 411-4 off their 50. First team ever to score 400 plus in consecutive matches in the W C.

    De Koch 1 (4)
    Amla 159 (128)
    Du Plessis 109 (109)
    A B V 24 (9)
    Miller 46* (23)
    Rousseau 61* (30)

    What's the bet A B V takes the gloves when Duminy is fit?

    Don't think that will happen. AB struggled with his back when he kept in the ODI series against the Windies before the World Cup. Understand de kock hasn't been performing but he's come back from an injury and they rate him highly. Think you'll see when Duminy is back they will play rossouw instead of behardien, who is rubbish, at the 7th spot. Think that's why rossouw is bowling now so that they can see if he can contribute a few overs.
    Not sure Rousseau's the answer (or Du Plessis for that matter) so Duminy will have to bowl 10 if he does come back for Behardien.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    Blimey A B V is bowling now!
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    And promptly gets a wicket second ball.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    edited March 2015
    Not limited to batting, keeping and bowling, here's a list of sports in which AB has excelled:

    > He was shortlisted for South Africa's junior national hockey team.

    > He made it to the shortlist of South Africa's junior national football team.

    > He was captain of South Africa's junior national rugby team.

    > He holds six South African school swimming records.

    > He holds the record in the 100m dash in South Africa's junior athletics.

    > He was a member of South Africa's junior Davis Cup tennis team.

    > He was South Africa's U-19 national badminton champion.

    > Has a scratch golf handicap

    > He is a recipient of the prestigious national medal from the Late Nelson Mandela for a science project

    Safe to say he is a sporting freak.
  • WestSA
    WestSA Posts: 62

    WestSA said:

    South Africa, having won the toss and elected to bat scored 411-4 off their 50. First team ever to score 400 plus in consecutive matches in the W C.

    De Koch 1 (4)
    Amla 159 (128)
    Du Plessis 109 (109)
    A B V 24 (9)
    Miller 46* (23)
    Rousseau 61* (30)

    What's the bet A B V takes the gloves when Duminy is fit?

    Don't think that will happen. AB struggled with his back when he kept in the ODI series against the Windies before the World Cup. Understand de kock hasn't been performing but he's come back from an injury and they rate him highly. Think you'll see when Duminy is back they will play rossouw instead of behardien, who is rubbish, at the 7th spot. Think that's why rossouw is bowling now so that they can see if he can contribute a few overs.
    Not sure Rousseau's the answer (or Du Plessis for that matter) so Duminy will have to bowl 10 if he does come back for Behardien.
    I don't think behardien is either as an option for a "batter who bowls a bit" type role. What I reckon is against someone like UAE they'll try this again. But I think rossouw is a much better option than behardien even if that means we have to have some guys chipping in with an over or two so duminy doesn't have to bowl the full 10.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    WestSA said:

    WestSA said:

    South Africa, having won the toss and elected to bat scored 411-4 off their 50. First team ever to score 400 plus in consecutive matches in the W C.

    De Koch 1 (4)
    Amla 159 (128)
    Du Plessis 109 (109)
    A B V 24 (9)
    Miller 46* (23)
    Rousseau 61* (30)

    What's the bet A B V takes the gloves when Duminy is fit?

    Don't think that will happen. AB struggled with his back when he kept in the ODI series against the Windies before the World Cup. Understand de kock hasn't been performing but he's come back from an injury and they rate him highly. Think you'll see when Duminy is back they will play rossouw instead of behardien, who is rubbish, at the 7th spot. Think that's why rossouw is bowling now so that they can see if he can contribute a few overs.
    Not sure Rousseau's the answer (or Du Plessis for that matter) so Duminy will have to bowl 10 if he does come back for Behardien.
    I don't think behardien is either as an option for a "batter who bowls a bit" type role. What I reckon is against someone like UAE they'll try this again. But I think rossouw is a much better option than behardien even if that means we have to have some guys chipping in with an over or two so duminy doesn't have to bowl the full 10.
    The top heavy nature (and admittedly with their top six or seven they should never have to get to number eight) is that the best ODI average of any of their likely 8-11 is Tahir with 12 and Steyn batting at eight is a testament to that.

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  • WestSA
    WestSA Posts: 62
    edited March 2015

    WestSA said:

    WestSA said:

    South Africa, having won the toss and elected to bat scored 411-4 off their 50. First team ever to score 400 plus in consecutive matches in the W C.

    De Koch 1 (4)
    Amla 159 (128)
    Du Plessis 109 (109)
    A B V 24 (9)
    Miller 46* (23)
    Rousseau 61* (30)

    What's the bet A B V takes the gloves when Duminy is fit?

    Don't think that will happen. AB struggled with his back when he kept in the ODI series against the Windies before the World Cup. Understand de kock hasn't been performing but he's come back from an injury and they rate him highly. Think you'll see when Duminy is back they will play rossouw instead of behardien, who is rubbish, at the 7th spot. Think that's why rossouw is bowling now so that they can see if he can contribute a few overs.
    Not sure Rousseau's the answer (or Du Plessis for that matter) so Duminy will have to bowl 10 if he does come back for Behardien.
    I don't think behardien is either as an option for a "batter who bowls a bit" type role. What I reckon is against someone like UAE they'll try this again. But I think rossouw is a much better option than behardien even if that means we have to have some guys chipping in with an over or two so duminy doesn't have to bowl the full 10.
    The top heavy nature (and admittedly with their top six or seven they should never have to get to number eight) is that the best ODI average of any of their likely 8-11 is Tahir with 12 and Steyn batting at eight is a testament to that.

    Admittingly we need a proper all rounder but wouldn't say we very top heavy. Out fully fit side with philander in it at 8 means our tail only starts at 9. Philander has an average in the 20's and used be a decent domestic all rounder before he cracked into the national side. But think the downfall is at the bottom of the order for the proteas
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    WestSA said:

    WestSA said:

    WestSA said:

    South Africa, having won the toss and elected to bat scored 411-4 off their 50. First team ever to score 400 plus in consecutive matches in the W C.

    De Koch 1 (4)
    Amla 159 (128)
    Du Plessis 109 (109)
    A B V 24 (9)
    Miller 46* (23)
    Rousseau 61* (30)

    What's the bet A B V takes the gloves when Duminy is fit?

    Don't think that will happen. AB struggled with his back when he kept in the ODI series against the Windies before the World Cup. Understand de kock hasn't been performing but he's come back from an injury and they rate him highly. Think you'll see when Duminy is back they will play rossouw instead of behardien, who is rubbish, at the 7th spot. Think that's why rossouw is bowling now so that they can see if he can contribute a few overs.
    Not sure Rousseau's the answer (or Du Plessis for that matter) so Duminy will have to bowl 10 if he does come back for Behardien.
    I don't think behardien is either as an option for a "batter who bowls a bit" type role. What I reckon is against someone like UAE they'll try this again. But I think rossouw is a much better option than behardien even if that means we have to have some guys chipping in with an over or two so duminy doesn't have to bowl the full 10.
    The top heavy nature (and admittedly with their top six or seven they should never have to get to number eight) is that the best ODI average of any of their likely 8-11 is Tahir with 12 and Steyn batting at eight is a testament to that.

    Admittingly we need a proper all rounder but wouldn't say we very top heavy. Out fully fit side with philander in it at 8 means our tail only starts at 9. Philander has an average in the 20's and used be a decent domestic all rounder before he cracked into the national side. But think the downfall is at the bottom of the order for the proteas
    Batting isnt your problem - its maybe bowlers 4 and 5 who are the only down for SA.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    210 all out. S A win by 201 runs.

    Another interesting stat for Riviera - that's only the second time that a team has registered back to back wins of 200 plus.
  • WestSA
    WestSA Posts: 62

    WestSA said:

    WestSA said:

    WestSA said:

    South Africa, having won the toss and elected to bat scored 411-4 off their 50. First team ever to score 400 plus in consecutive matches in the W C.

    De Koch 1 (4)
    Amla 159 (128)
    Du Plessis 109 (109)
    A B V 24 (9)
    Miller 46* (23)
    Rousseau 61* (30)

    What's the bet A B V takes the gloves when Duminy is fit?

    Don't think that will happen. AB struggled with his back when he kept in the ODI series against the Windies before the World Cup. Understand de kock hasn't been performing but he's come back from an injury and they rate him highly. Think you'll see when Duminy is back they will play rossouw instead of behardien, who is rubbish, at the 7th spot. Think that's why rossouw is bowling now so that they can see if he can contribute a few overs.
    Not sure Rousseau's the answer (or Du Plessis for that matter) so Duminy will have to bowl 10 if he does come back for Behardien.
    I don't think behardien is either as an option for a "batter who bowls a bit" type role. What I reckon is against someone like UAE they'll try this again. But I think rossouw is a much better option than behardien even if that means we have to have some guys chipping in with an over or two so duminy doesn't have to bowl the full 10.
    The top heavy nature (and admittedly with their top six or seven they should never have to get to number eight) is that the best ODI average of any of their likely 8-11 is Tahir with 12 and Steyn batting at eight is a testament to that.

    Admittingly we need a proper all rounder but wouldn't say we very top heavy. Out fully fit side with philander in it at 8 means our tail only starts at 9. Philander has an average in the 20's and used be a decent domestic all rounder before he cracked into the national side. But think the downfall is at the bottom of the order for the proteas
    Batting isnt your problem - its maybe bowlers 4 and 5 who are the only down for SA.
    Agree, think our 5th bowler could hurt us deeper in the tournament like it did against India
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited March 2015
    Sky just shown a couple of people who have broken bats this world cup, can't believe I missed this one

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ETnVs98kFg
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    Australia made 417-6 against Afghanistan, the highest score ever recorded in a World Cup match.

    Main contributions:

    Warner 178 (133)
    Smith 95 (98)
    Maxwell 88 (39)

    Australia left Bailey and Watson out to accommodate Clarke and Faulkner. Clarke elected not to bat and the "finisher" Faulkner made just 7.




  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    Afghanistan 142 all out so Australia win by 275 runs. A record winning margin for Australia in an ODI.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,729

    There are three KEY issues with the England team right now:

    1. the lack of variety in the bowling
    We are too predictable and once batsmen are set, they are set for the innings. I don't particularly mean ball to ball variation such as yorkers, slower balls, etc (although that also needs a lot of work). It's the fact that we have four right arm quicks and a spinning all rounder. Where is the left arm bowler? Medium pacers? Broad and Anderson look toothless. Broad and Finn are too similar in their approach, Anderson and Woakes are too similar in theirs.
    2. the lack of intent in the batting
    England don't get enough runs in the middle overs - four runs per over for 25 overs of the innings is no longer acceptable in ODI. Most countries nowadays will be going at five or five and a half and that equates to an extra 25-40 runs per innings. We either need to hit more boundaries or squeeze more runs out of our shots. We are letting the opposition get away with too many dot balls that could be turned into quick singles as well as singles that could be twos.
    3. the lack of invention in the field
    Field placements are too rigid. The team are too scared to move away from pre-game plans and adapt with the game situation. This is something that countries at the top of the game have become very good at.

    It always feels to me that we are about 4 or 5 years behind everybody else in relation to approach to limited overs cricket. There almost seems a mistrust of flamboyant players and a fear of admitting your approach is wrong. There are more suitable one day players England could pick than many they do/stick with. Against Sri Lanka they got off to a good start, but then allowed the bowlers too much respect when they should have been trying to capitalise. You can win games, but the odds are that you won’t if you bat first if the total you are aiming for is too safe a one. I think England should have been more gutted with the total they posted against Sri Lanka and it was never going to be enough. What they ought to do is listen to the critics and give one of them power over the one day game. I can’t think of a better candidate than Botham. He would ruffle a few feathers, but his England team would be a lot more adventurous and up to date with the game as it is now.
  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    First Scottish century in world cups (Mac)Coetzee.
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  • Absurdistan
    Absurdistan Posts: 8,024
    318-8 should be a good game on a flat pitch.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    Bangladesh won by 6 wickets with 11 balls to spare.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    West Indies at their self destructive worst, 35-4.

    Smith slashes at one and is caught behind, Gayle is dropped and runs his partner, Samuels out in the same ball and then holes out himself (India's fourth attempt at catching him) and finally Ramdin plays on first ball.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280

    West Indies at their self destructive worst, 35-4.

    Smith slashes at one and is caught behind, Gayle is dropped and runs his partner, Samuels out in the same ball and then holes out himself (India's fourth attempt at catching him) and finally Ramdin plays on first ball.

    Absolutely amateurish batting by WI - especially Gayle - he's such a liability when he doesnt have his mojo.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    And then Simmons pulls a short ball straight to fine leg.

    67-5
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    Shortly followed by Carter sweeping Ashwin this time to - yes you guessed it - fine leg again. Unbelievably poor cricket.

    71-6
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    Should have been 84-7 but Jadeja drops a skier from Sammy. The W I clearly never learn from their mistakes.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790
    But, of course, they don't as Russell skies the first ball of a spell from Jadeja. Russell only had more than another 25 overs to bat!

    85-7
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,765
    edited March 2015
    If India beat Ireland & Zimbabwe (& WI which is looking highly likely) while England beat Bangladesh & Afghanistan, it'll be an India vs England quarter final at the MCG.

    It's bizarre that as well as India are playing, I'd fancy our chances against them simply because of the results we got in the tri-series. I suspect they'll be far far better in a World Cup quarter final though.

    It's not impossible that the quarter final line-up somehow fits NZ, AUS and RSA into the other half of the draw. If it happens, I'll be ecstatic. We couldn't hope for a better draw than that.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,790

    If India beat Ireland & Zimbabwe (& WI which is looking highly likely) while England beat Bangladesh & Afghanistan, it'll be an India vs England quarter final at the MCG.

    It's bizarre that as well as India are playing, I'd fancy our chances against them simply because of the results we got in the tri-series. I suspect they'll be far far better in a World Cup quarter final though.

    It's not impossible that the quarter final line-up somehow fits NZ, AUS and RSA into the other half of the draw. If it happens, I'll be ecstatic. We couldn't hope for a better draw than that.

    Callum, I'd love to have your positive outlook on life.

    Yes it is a one off game but India, in my book, would be 1/5 shots. And that also makes the assumption that we beat both Bangladesh and Afghanistan and I certainly wouldn't be backing us to do that.