Mischievous or purposeful wording. Either way it's far from unequivocal what Cawley actually means.
Oh come on mate. What he really means is:
Rumours that Bob Peeters has been sacked and will be replaced by Guy Luzon at #cafc are a load of bollocks.
But obviously he couldn't write that.
What else can he possibly mean? What wording would you use to make it "unequivocal"?
Ahem !!!!
Ahem!!!!
First-Team Coach Damian Matthew and Goalkeeping Coach Ben Roberts have been placed in caretaker charge for the time being and will prepare the squad for Saturday’s game at Watford (3pm).
I would have every confidence Luzon would do better. Not only did he take Liege to the top of the Jupiler league and have a crack at qualifying for the Champions League but I've just looked up the following: Buyens played 18 times under Luzon last season. Ben Haim and Bulot each played 38 times. Yes that's right, these three played more for Luzon in a winning Liege team last season than they have for Peeters!
Well... I don't know about anyone else, but this has me fully reassured.
In the last year we've found of Powell going first by foreign sources, and Peeters joining from foreign sources.
If Israeli media are mentioning it with no prompting, then that must come from Luzon's contacts, and suggests there is a fairly good chance he.has been touted, lined up for something.
My instant reaction was to dismiss it this morning, but one thing I think is becoming clear. That if things don't improve soon, this might.not.be fair off at all.
@Desert Red didn't do us the courtesy of sourcing his rumours. That's probably because the links don't exist. I just googled Luzon Charlton and nothing came up on the first page from Israeli sources. In the last year or so I have several times when googling people like Dudu Duhan been led to articles in the Jerusalem Post and the like. There's an active Israeli footie press, and it's a digital country. Where are the links?
The following is Desert Red's "history" of talking about Israeli players. On the basis of this history i'm not going to take any notice of him until he produces some links to proper media sources...
In the last year we've found of Powell going first by foreign sources, and Peeters joining from foreign sources.
If Israeli media are mentioning it with no prompting, then that must come from Luzon's contacts, and suggests there is a fairly good chance he.has been touted, lined up for something.
My instant reaction was to dismiss it this morning, but one thing I think is becoming clear. That if things don't improve soon, this might.not.be fair off at all.
@Desert Red didn't do us the courtesy of sourcing his rumours. That's probably because the links don't exist. I just googled Luzon Charlton and nothing came up on the first page from Israeli sources. In the last year or so I have several times when googling people like Dudu Duhan been led to articles in the Jerusalem Post and the like. There's an active Israeli footie press, and it's a digital country. Where are the links?
The following is Desert Red's "history" of talking about Israeli players. On the basis of this history i'm not going to take any notice of him until he produces some links to proper media sources...
Sure.
I thought the first webpost from that site was bollocks because no other respectable news outlet independently ran the story, not even in Israel. Even when Peeters was sacked, KM put out a statement which seemed designed directly to rebut that website. That reinforced my other reason to be so confident; I thought KM and RD were better than to go for such a simplistic "solution", while at the same time pretending to to the fans that they would stop, look and think carefully about the best way forward.
As it turned out, the Israeli website's second post on Monday, that Luzon would arrive on Tuesday for talks, turned out to be deadly accurate. It directly contradicted what KM had said on the same day, but it was 100% right.
I have been made to look a fool on here. You can conclude that I am indeed a fool (or insert whatever word you want). However being taken for fools seems to be the overwhelming feeling among most posters , many of whom never even read this thread (and quite possibly Richard Cawley feels that too). That is both sad, and dangerous for the club. And that, I suggest, is what is really important.
Not everyone was so offensive to begin with though.
Well if asking for a source (links) is "offensive" I beg to differ. If suggesting the person posting it might not readily believed, given that he'd only made about 8 posts in 5 years, several of which were to denounce Tal ben Haim as "shite", without any reasoning, was offensive, then I apologise to @Desert red if I caused offence to him.
But is this what is most important to you about the events surrounding Luzon's arrival?
In the last year we've found of Powell going first by foreign sources, and Peeters joining from foreign sources.
If Israeli media are mentioning it with no prompting, then that must come from Luzon's contacts, and suggests there is a fairly good chance he.has been touted, lined up for something.
My instant reaction was to dismiss it this morning, but one thing I think is becoming clear. That if things don't improve soon, this might.not.be fair off at all.
Its strange, i think sometimes you just get a gut feel for things. It was too random for me not to emerge without any truth in it (ie. it wasn't like the normal made up rumour of an agent touting a player by saying Leeds, Reading are Charlton were interested to generate interest).
This emerged a couple of weeks after talk of fall outs at the training ground were emerging. Bob's cards were were simply numbered unless there was an immediate response on the pitch. There wasn't.
Which makes why such a statement put out by Meire on Saturday seems so ridiculously contradictory.
In the last year we've found of Powell going first by foreign sources, and Peeters joining from foreign sources.
If Israeli media are mentioning it with no prompting, then that must come from Luzon's contacts, and suggests there is a fairly good chance he.has been touted, lined up for something.
My instant reaction was to dismiss it this morning, but one thing I think is becoming clear. That if things don't improve soon, this might.not.be fair off at all.
Its strange, i think sometimes you just get a gut feel for things. It was too random for me not to emerge without any truth in it (ie. it wasn't like the normal made up rumour of an agent touting a player by saying Leeds, Reading are Charlton were interested to generate interest).
This emerged a couple of weeks after talk of fall outs at the training ground were emerging. Bob's cards were were simply numbered unless there was an immediate response on the pitch. There wasn't.
Which makes why such a statement put out by Meire on Saturday seems so ridiculously contradictory.
I agree. Gut feeling. Yours was based on a superior feel for what was going on at Charlton, mine rather for a feel for how the modern media propagates stories which are, or are not, based on fact. (I'm still unbowed on Andy Delort :-), and Karel Fraeye was obviously ringing a different bell)
@Desert Red must, with hindsight have been bang on the money to say the website source must have been (sources close to) Luzon himself. I now believe he was right, but still ask myself what on earth was Luzon playing at, opening his gob? My assistant is orthodox Jewish (and her hubby is looking at the Israeli connection for me, being a footie guy with links there). She says it is very much the Israeli way to exert aggressive pressure on someone to make a business decision. That seems a plausible explanation although it seems risky to me to do that to someone like RD.
In the last year we've found of Powell going first by foreign sources, and Peeters joining from foreign sources.
If Israeli media are mentioning it with no prompting, then that must come from Luzon's contacts, and suggests there is a fairly good chance he.has been touted, lined up for something.
My instant reaction was to dismiss it this morning, but one thing I think is becoming clear. That if things don't improve soon, this might.not.be fair off at all.
Its strange, i think sometimes you just get a gut feel for things. It was too random for me not to emerge without any truth in it (ie. it wasn't like the normal made up rumour of an agent touting a player by saying Leeds, Reading are Charlton were interested to generate interest).
This emerged a couple of weeks after talk of fall outs at the training ground were emerging. Bob's cards were were simply numbered unless there was an immediate response on the pitch. There wasn't.
Which makes why such a statement put out by Meire on Saturday seems so ridiculously contradictory.
My assistant is orthodox Jewish (and her hubby is looking at the Israeli connection for me, being a footie guy with links there).
I thought that was quite established. Israeli agent called Dudu Dahan seems to heavily have the ear of RD
In the last year we've found of Powell going first by foreign sources, and Peeters joining from foreign sources.
If Israeli media are mentioning it with no prompting, then that must come from Luzon's contacts, and suggests there is a fairly good chance he.has been touted, lined up for something.
My instant reaction was to dismiss it this morning, but one thing I think is becoming clear. That if things don't improve soon, this might.not.be fair off at all.
Its strange, i think sometimes you just get a gut feel for things. It was too random for me not to emerge without any truth in it (ie. it wasn't like the normal made up rumour of an agent touting a player by saying Leeds, Reading are Charlton were interested to generate interest).
This emerged a couple of weeks after talk of fall outs at the training ground were emerging. Bob's cards were were simply numbered unless there was an immediate response on the pitch. There wasn't.
Which makes why such a statement put out by Meire on Saturday seems so ridiculously contradictory.
My assistant is orthodox Jewish (and her hubby is looking at the Israeli connection for me, being a footie guy with links there).
I thought that was quite established. Israeli agent called Dudu Dahan seems to heavily have the ear of RD
Plus Luzon's dad is on the UEFA board and got his son a job coaching the Israeli U21s. The rest is history.
In the last year we've found of Powell going first by foreign sources, and Peeters joining from foreign sources.
If Israeli media are mentioning it with no prompting, then that must come from Luzon's contacts, and suggests there is a fairly good chance he.has been touted, lined up for something.
My instant reaction was to dismiss it this morning, but one thing I think is becoming clear. That if things don't improve soon, this might.not.be fair off at all.
Its strange, i think sometimes you just get a gut feel for things. It was too random for me not to emerge without any truth in it (ie. it wasn't like the normal made up rumour of an agent touting a player by saying Leeds, Reading are Charlton were interested to generate interest).
This emerged a couple of weeks after talk of fall outs at the training ground were emerging. Bob's cards were were simply numbered unless there was an immediate response on the pitch. There wasn't.
Which makes why such a statement put out by Meire on Saturday seems so ridiculously contradictory.
My assistant is orthodox Jewish (and her hubby is looking at the Israeli connection for me, being a footie guy with links there).
I thought that was quite established. Israeli agent called Dudu Dahan seems to heavily have the ear of RD
I meant more the website and who their source might have been. Although I've also asked for chapter and verse on Duhan
Anyone who defends a coach with one win in 12 is going to look a fool! People who ignore the fact that Luzon was retained on the payroll at Staprix and not paid off are never going to be particularly accurate and working out how this plays out. Similarly it takes five minutes to look up the experience Luzon gained at Liege in their league and Europe. So for @PragueAddick to suggest that Luzon is less well qualified than Peeters is laughable. The presumption is that the evil Duchatelet is trying to destroy the club instead of simply replacing a failing coach with one who took Liege to top of the league and Europa Cup quarter finals.
For what it's worth, I predict our form will improve because we may have Henderson back soon and it is likely M.Duchatelet will back Luzon with a couple of players.
People mistake my analysis for cheerleading or propaganda. No, I just call it as I see it. Rather than attribute incompetence or some destructive malicious tendency to the owner I'm looking to understand what's going on.
Admittedly, the comms has been pretty poor on this one but I suspect the football will more than make up for it. As posted before, several of our players played for Luzon last season so he just needs to understand the strengths and weaknesses of the whole squad. And then deliver on the pitch.
It would not surprise me if Luzon has already watched analysis of our season to date and has a game plan as to how to attack this challenge.
Does he know what he's doing? Well football is football and he had a successful season 2013-14. While we were losing to Birmingham City last February he was working out how to win their league... According to wiki Standard had the longest unbeaten run (16 games) the highest away wins (2 x 5-0) in the league along with starting with a 9 game winning streak.
He might not work out but anyone attacking his credibility before he was even appointed is going to look pretty stupid in the months to come.
Lower-tier playoffs: good for drama, but bring a coffee By Uri Misgav | Apr. 22, 2013 | 5:31 PM
The Israel Football Association's highest court will decide the future of the Maccabi Petah Tikva soccer club on Sunday. The IFA's disciplinary court, a lower tribunal, deducted the team three Premier League points; Maccabi Petah Tikva is being held accountable for unruliness on its home field two weeks ago. During the scuffle, the team's goalkeeping coach head-butted Hapoel Haifa player Ali Khatib; then as Khatib writhed in pain on the ground, a Petah Tikva staff member kicked him.
The decision will have direct repercussions on the status of the Luzon family in Israeli sports. IFA chairman Avi Luzon has kept mum since the melee. His younger brother Amos, who owns a share of Maccabi Petah Tikva, has been lobbying vociferously for the IFA to rescind the penalty, or at least reduce its severity.
Amos' main message to the media regarding this controversy is that the press is persecuting his family because of its success. When Avi vied for the IFA chairmanship seven years ago against Aryeh Zeif, the race was perceived as a contest between Israel's elite and an upstart. Luzon won the race because he secured the support of smaller clubs and the Maccabi sports organization was forced to back him, but he was never really accepted among soccer's veteran power-brokers.
People involved in Israeli soccer have been complaining for years about how no important decision or change can be implemented in the sport without the backing of Amos Luzon, who is not an elected figure. The disciplinary court, which is ostensibly a tribunal independent of the IFA, has moved to isolate the Luzon brothers. Avi Luzon has cultivated strong relations with the Union of European Football Associations (UEFA ). Its president, Michel Platini, is a close friend of his. But in Israel, that doesn't interest anyone. In this country, it would be hard to find a single sports fan who doesn't support severe sanctions against Petah Tikva, even though the disciplinary court never provided an argument justifying the three-point deduction decision.
The Luzon family is paying the price not only because of this current controversy, but because of its sons' sin of arrogance in recent years regarding Israeli soccer. Blinded by power, the family apparently indulged in nepotism in the appointment of a nephew, Guy, to manage the national youth team. A few years ago, Avi Luzon was acquitted after he insulted a referee during a youth game. Before then it was standard practice that a referee's match report cannot be appealed; but a precedent was set for the IFA chairman. Avi's brother Itzik was suspended for three months due to a similar infraction, based on the same referee's report.
Maccabi Petah Tikva is liable to be relegated to the second-tier National League. This would be a severe blow to the Luzon family. The club brings together 1,200 youths, and is considered one of the country's leading youth clubs. Still, Petah Tikva's downturn would satisfy sports fans in the country and cause them to feel that nobody is bigger than the game itself. Avi and Amos' reputations and stature will be damaged.
Meantime, police investigations are proceeding. One investigation, pertaining to suspicions about Avi's influence over soccer referees, seems frivolous; the other relates to suspicions of financial irregularity in a transfer deal by which Omer Damari moved from Maccabi Petah Tikva to Hapoel Tel Aviv.
This is the end of an era. If up to now the Luzon family's moves have been watched through a magnifying glass, today a microscope is being used to scrutinize the family. The slightest error on the family's part will cause an uproar. At this point, the family members have to decide whether to get out of the sport when their activities are at a peak, or fight to restore their reputation and honor. Everyone awaits their decision. The IFA court will decide on Sunday whether to give the family a chance to mend its ways, or bring the saga to an end.
avi luzon is a strange operator, id seen the above as well.
dont feel bad PA, think everyone got suckered in by this. unbelievable.
why did RD take GL from having no success in Israel to a job at SL, why does he rate GL so highly? i think those are questions that are fair to ask.
I don't feel bad for myself. I feel bad about the necessity to be more sceptical about the intentions of this regime, as a result of the way the last 72 hours have gone.
avi luzon is a strange operator, id seen the above as well.
dont feel bad PA, think everyone got suckered in by this. unbelievable.
why did RD take GL from having no success in Israel to a job at SL, why does he rate GL so highly? i think those are questions that are fair to ask.
I don't feel bad for myself. I feel bad about the necessity to be more sceptical about the intentions of this regime, as a result of the way the last 72 hours have gone.
well thats a good reaction then mate.
I realise RD and KM have the right to appoint whoever they want, they are in charge.
Does that mean they can lie to supporters on the website and through official club channels?
1. why would Luzon blabb about this when another fellla is still in a job? 2. did this potentially affect results? 3. why does KM feel the need to lie to suppporters about an "open" search for a new manager? 4. If you a accept that business owners have a right to withhold the truth to support a business then is that the same as deceitful statements with a clear agenda? 5. Accepting that there was always a clear motive and end result with GL remployed for his remaining contract, did anyone expect them to behave in a way which has turned out to be so unsophisticated and the fans know, pretty much for definite, that we have been lied to?
some questions need to be raised as I think the fans deserve an explanation at least if we are to have the good grace to give GL support.
for me, none of these issues go away should we suddenly beat watford 4-0. Personally, I think GL will need a lot of luck or money to turn the footballing fortunes around, he hasnt shown anything in his career that screams winner
Not everyone was so offensive to begin with though.
Well if asking for a source (links) is "offensive" I beg to differ. If suggesting the person posting it might not readily believed, given that he'd only made about 8 posts in 5 years, several of which were to denounce Tal ben Haim as "shite", without any reasoning, was offensive, then I apologise to @Desert red if I caused offence to him.
But is this what is most important to you about the events surrounding Luzon's arrival?
I think it's pretty important that a coach who had us playing terrible boring football has been shown the door. I also think it's pretty important he's been replaced by someone with a wealth of experience and a great win %.
It might work out well for us, it might not but it was pretty obvious it wasn't working with Peeters.
Not everyone was so offensive to begin with though.
Well if asking for a source (links) is "offensive" I beg to differ. If suggesting the person posting it might not readily believed, given that he'd only made about 8 posts in 5 years, several of which were to denounce Tal ben Haim as "shite", without any reasoning, was offensive, then I apologise to @Desert red if I caused offence to him.
But is this what is most important to you about the events surrounding Luzon's arrival?
I think it's pretty important that a coach who had us playing terrible boring football has been shown the door. I also think it's pretty important he's been replaced by someone with a wealth of experience and a great win %.
It might work out well for us, it might not but it was pretty obvious it wasn't working with Peeters.
The question is why it was not working with BP.
On Saturday he had to play a midfield that had Jackson and Cousins in the middle, whatever their qualities neither is a creative midfielder, and a disaffected Wilson on the right. He had no other choices except kids who had never played in the first team. He started wioth TUC up front who has failed in 90% of his appearances to make any impact. The alternatives? Pigott and Church-also both failures. Also when BP played people out of position it was usually because he had no real choice.
However poor BP was as a manager let us not forget he had a poor hand to play as well. If that does not change I cannot see how any manager will make any real difference.
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I say sign Luzon up pronto!
turned out to be pretty accurate.
Sure.
I thought the first webpost from that site was bollocks because no other respectable news outlet independently ran the story, not even in Israel. Even when Peeters was sacked, KM put out a statement which seemed designed directly to rebut that website. That reinforced my other reason to be so confident; I thought KM and RD were better than to go for such a simplistic "solution", while at the same time pretending to to the fans that they would stop, look and think carefully about the best way forward.
As it turned out, the Israeli website's second post on Monday, that Luzon would arrive on Tuesday for talks, turned out to be deadly accurate. It directly contradicted what KM had said on the same day, but it was 100% right.
I have been made to look a fool on here. You can conclude that I am indeed a fool (or insert whatever word you want). However being taken for fools seems to be the overwhelming feeling among most posters , many of whom never even read this thread (and quite possibly Richard Cawley feels that too). That is both sad, and dangerous for the club. And that, I suggest, is what is really important.
But is this what is most important to you about the events surrounding Luzon's arrival?
The Belgians speak with forked tongue.
This emerged a couple of weeks after talk of fall outs at the training ground were emerging. Bob's cards were were simply numbered unless there was an immediate response on the pitch. There wasn't.
Which makes why such a statement put out by Meire on Saturday seems so ridiculously contradictory.
@Desert Red must, with hindsight have been bang on the money to say the website source must have been (sources close to) Luzon himself. I now believe he was right, but still ask myself what on earth was Luzon playing at, opening his gob? My assistant is orthodox Jewish (and her hubby is looking at the Israeli connection for me, being a footie guy with links there). She says it is very much the Israeli way to exert aggressive pressure on someone to make a business decision. That seems a plausible explanation although it seems risky to me to do that to someone like RD.
People who ignore the fact that Luzon was retained on the payroll at Staprix and not paid off are never going to be particularly accurate and working out how this plays out.
Similarly it takes five minutes to look up the experience Luzon gained at Liege in their league and Europe. So for @PragueAddick to suggest that Luzon is less well qualified than Peeters is laughable. The presumption is that the evil Duchatelet is trying to destroy the club instead of simply replacing a failing coach with one who took Liege to top of the league and Europa Cup quarter finals.
For what it's worth, I predict our form will improve because we may have Henderson back soon and it is likely M.Duchatelet will back Luzon with a couple of players.
People mistake my analysis for cheerleading or propaganda. No, I just call it as I see it. Rather than attribute incompetence or some destructive malicious tendency to the owner I'm looking to understand what's going on.
Admittedly, the comms has been pretty poor on this one but I suspect the football will more than make up for it. As posted before, several of our players played for Luzon last season so he just needs to understand the strengths and weaknesses of the whole squad. And then deliver on the pitch.
It would not surprise me if Luzon has already watched analysis of our season to date and has a game plan as to how to attack this challenge.
Does he know what he's doing? Well football is football and he had a successful season 2013-14. While we were losing to Birmingham City last February he was working out how to win their league... According to wiki Standard had the longest unbeaten run (16 games) the highest away wins (2 x 5-0) in the league along with starting with a 9 game winning streak.
He might not work out but anyone attacking his credibility before he was even appointed is going to look pretty stupid in the months to come.
Might be going off topic a little, but an interesting piece from 2013 here about the Luzon family http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/the-luzon-family-s-honor-1.424280
Lower-tier playoffs: good for drama, but bring a coffee
By Uri Misgav | Apr. 22, 2013 | 5:31 PM
The Israel Football Association's highest court will decide the future of the Maccabi Petah Tikva soccer club on Sunday. The IFA's disciplinary court, a lower tribunal, deducted the team three Premier League points; Maccabi Petah Tikva is being held accountable for unruliness on its home field two weeks ago. During the scuffle, the team's goalkeeping coach head-butted Hapoel Haifa player Ali Khatib; then as Khatib writhed in pain on the ground, a Petah Tikva staff member kicked him.
The decision will have direct repercussions on the status of the Luzon family in Israeli sports. IFA chairman Avi Luzon has kept mum since the melee. His younger brother Amos, who owns a share of Maccabi Petah Tikva, has been lobbying vociferously for the IFA to rescind the penalty, or at least reduce its severity.
Amos' main message to the media regarding this controversy is that the press is persecuting his family because of its success. When Avi vied for the IFA chairmanship seven years ago against Aryeh Zeif, the race was perceived as a contest between Israel's elite and an upstart. Luzon won the race because he secured the support of smaller clubs and the Maccabi sports organization was forced to back him, but he was never really accepted among soccer's veteran power-brokers.
People involved in Israeli soccer have been complaining for years about how no important decision or change can be implemented in the sport without the backing of Amos Luzon, who is not an elected figure. The disciplinary court, which is ostensibly a tribunal independent of the IFA, has moved to isolate the Luzon brothers.
Avi Luzon has cultivated strong relations with the Union of European Football Associations (UEFA ). Its president, Michel Platini, is a close friend of his. But in Israel, that doesn't interest anyone. In this country, it would be hard to find a single sports fan who doesn't support severe sanctions against Petah Tikva, even though the disciplinary court never provided an argument justifying the three-point deduction decision.
The Luzon family is paying the price not only because of this current controversy, but because of its sons' sin of arrogance in recent years regarding Israeli soccer. Blinded by power, the family apparently indulged in nepotism in the appointment of a nephew, Guy, to manage the national youth team. A few years ago, Avi Luzon was acquitted after he insulted a referee during a youth game. Before then it was standard practice that a referee's match report cannot be appealed; but a precedent was set for the IFA chairman. Avi's brother Itzik was suspended for three months due to a similar infraction, based on the same referee's report.
Maccabi Petah Tikva is liable to be relegated to the second-tier National League. This would be a severe blow to the Luzon family. The club brings together 1,200 youths, and is considered one of the country's leading youth clubs. Still, Petah Tikva's downturn would satisfy sports fans in the country and cause them to feel that nobody is bigger than the game itself. Avi and Amos' reputations and stature will be damaged.
Meantime, police investigations are proceeding. One investigation, pertaining to suspicions about Avi's influence over soccer referees, seems frivolous; the other relates to suspicions of financial irregularity in a transfer deal by which Omer Damari moved from Maccabi Petah Tikva to Hapoel Tel Aviv.
This is the end of an era. If up to now the Luzon family's moves have been watched through a magnifying glass, today a microscope is being used to scrutinize the family. The slightest error on the family's part will cause an uproar.
At this point, the family members have to decide whether to get out of the sport when their activities are at a peak, or fight to restore their reputation and honor. Everyone awaits their decision. The IFA court will decide on Sunday whether to give the family a chance to mend its ways, or bring the saga to an end.
So for @PragueAddick to suggest that Luzon is less well qualified than Peeters is laughable.
WTF are you talking about? Where did I say that? Come on, show us the quote.
Or leave me out of your ramblings.
dont feel bad PA, think everyone got suckered in by this. unbelievable.
why did RD take GL from having no success in Israel to a job at SL, why does he rate GL so highly? i think those are questions that are fair to ask.
I realise RD and KM have the right to appoint whoever they want, they are in charge.
Does that mean they can lie to supporters on the website and through official club channels?
1. why would Luzon blabb about this when another fellla is still in a job?
2. did this potentially affect results?
3. why does KM feel the need to lie to suppporters about an "open" search for a new manager?
4. If you a accept that business owners have a right to withhold the truth to support a business then is that the same as deceitful statements with a clear agenda?
5. Accepting that there was always a clear motive and end result with GL remployed for his remaining contract, did anyone expect them to behave in a way which has turned out to be so unsophisticated and the fans know, pretty much for definite, that we have been lied to?
some questions need to be raised as I think the fans deserve an explanation at least if we are to have the good grace to give GL support.
for me, none of these issues go away should we suddenly beat watford 4-0. Personally, I think GL will need a lot of luck or money to turn the footballing fortunes around, he hasnt shown anything in his career that screams winner
It might work out well for us, it might not but it was pretty obvious it wasn't working with Peeters.
On Saturday he had to play a midfield that had Jackson and Cousins in the middle, whatever their qualities neither is a creative midfielder, and a disaffected Wilson on the right. He had no other choices except kids who had never played in the first team. He started wioth TUC up front who has failed in 90% of his appearances to make any impact. The alternatives? Pigott and Church-also both failures. Also when BP played people out of position it was usually because he had no real choice.
However poor BP was as a manager let us not forget he had a poor hand to play as well. If that does not change I cannot see how any manager will make any real difference.