What was his role at the club? Why would RD tell this guy such things??
I've got no reason to not believe what Jimmy is saying, I'd just like to know how and in what capacity he was told this info. He also left quite a while ago didn't he? Why is he only saying this now?
Like I say I'm not calling him a liar but I've been on Twitter long enough to know that some people get carried away at times.
If it is true then the not caring about winning worries me greatly.
He was the fan engagement and content manager until he left three weeks ago. So he produced the videos and jointly ran the fb and Twitter accounts with Ian. He was in close proximity to the players, the coaching staff and with the ownership and like others have said is a fan. He isn't making this stuff up.
Duchatelet told him about replacing Powell in second half in this interview which he held with the owner http://t.co/0HXJG2WwQO which the team were then instructed to heavily cut.
This "not caring about winning" thing. Can I just play devils advocate here? I'm in no way a supporter of RD by the way, just I think perhaps I think this is probably getting lost in translation. I think the point he was probably trying to make (badly) is that it's about a long game. He's emotionally detached from the week to week grind and emotions of winning and losing games. He has a plan. A long term one at that. Losing a game has no impact on that.
That's just my interpretation of what that would mean. But who knows? RD is probably the only one.
So Guy Luzon likes to win, doesn't like to lose, we are told that Mr Peeters was sacked because of results, yet Mr Duchatelet supposedly says results don't matter, which we witness with our own eyes when we see the games and observe the transfer policy. Whether results matter or not the bald fact is we're not getting them anyway, and that is driving fans away.
What was his role at the club? Why would RD tell this guy such things??
I've got no reason to not believe what Jimmy is saying, I'd just like to know how and in what capacity he was told this info. He also left quite a while ago didn't he? Why is he only saying this now?
Like I say I'm not calling him a liar but I've been on Twitter long enough to know that some people get carried away at times.
If it is true then the not caring about winning worries me greatly.
If your going to believe anyone with as a credible source its Jimmy and I have backed Roland all the way
Just to expand on what I posted on another thread.. My view is that RD is trying to make money from player sales NOT the big cash from Prem TV money (and the massive increase in salaries that would follow). He is apparently investing in the academy; his player factory. He has already invested in the ground; his shop window. And already has a network of shops he can move his players to; the stock. The comment about not caring about winning means that it is not his priority - trading players is. He is quite happy to have his shop in Bluewater and not Bond Street (presumably because he doesn't like the running costs), whether he gets enough passing trade, and how much he needs to cut the selling prices if he needs to relocate to the High Street is his gamble..... To that end the whole game/result is irrelevant to him - he sees the actual football/emotional side of things as a distraction.
This "not caring about winning" thing. Can I just play devils advocate here? I'm in no way a supporter of RD by the way, just I think perhaps I think this is probably getting lost in translation. I think the point he was probably trying to make (badly) is that it's about a long game. He's emotionally detached from the week to week grind and emotions of winning and losing games. He has a plan. A long term one at that. Losing a game has no impact on that.
That's just my interpretation of what that would mean. But who knows? RD is probably the only one.
Right from start from bits he said I thought his view was that it was a match day experience he wanted to build and that did not include winning football. It is all about the player pool with the costs of buying in spread across all his clubs.
Easy for Jimmy to come out now and say this. He cares that much about Charlton that he was perfectly happy to pedal out any old nonsense from Duchatelet and co. at the time despite knowing it was rubbish. It's all a bit self-indulgent to me.
Easy for Jimmy to come out now and say this. He cares that much about Charlton that he was perfectly happy to pedal out any old nonsense from Duchatelet and co. at the time despite knowing it was rubbish. It's all a bit self-indulgent to me.
That was his job. And with Duchatalet's track record, go against him or if he doesn't agree with you he will sack you there and then.
Easy for Jimmy to come out now and say this. He cares that much about Charlton that he was perfectly happy to pedal out any old nonsense from Duchatelet and co. at the time despite knowing it was rubbish. It's all a bit self-indulgent to me.
Easy for Jimmy to come out now and say this. He cares that much about Charlton that he was perfectly happy to pedal out any old nonsense from Duchatelet and co. at the time despite knowing it was rubbish. It's all a bit self-indulgent to me.
That was his job. And with Duchatalet's track record, go against him or if he doesn't agree with you he will sack you there and then.
That's not journalism then is it? Why not quit earlier if it bothered him that much? I appreciate him coming out with this now but it's a year too late.
Easy for Jimmy to come out now and say this. He cares that much about Charlton that he was perfectly happy to pedal out any old nonsense from Duchatelet and co. at the time despite knowing it was rubbish. It's all a bit self-indulgent to me.
Maybe he wasn't "perfectly happy". Maybe he was very unhappy but had a job to do at the club he supports.
Eventually, he decided to leave despite not having another job to go to which tells me he was less than "perfectly happy"
Easy for Jimmy to come out now and say this. He cares that much about Charlton that he was perfectly happy to pedal out any old nonsense from Duchatelet and co. at the time despite knowing it was rubbish. It's all a bit self-indulgent to me.
You don't know he was happy about it. Or that the people still there are happy. Indeed, more staff continue to quit without replacement jobs.
I take the Sheff United tweet to mean that Duchatelet offered Riga the job during the match, not asked him to step in and take charge immediately. Riga wasn't at the match, to my knowledge, although as we've discussed before Powell knew he was out before the game, as did the home directors. To my mind, Duchatelet's direct intervention in the build up to this match, to which thousands of Charlton fans had travelled, instructing Powell whom to play, is one of the biggest charges against him.
Easy for Jimmy to come out now and say this. He cares that much about Charlton that he was perfectly happy to pedal out any old nonsense from Duchatelet and co. at the time despite knowing it was rubbish. It's all a bit self-indulgent to me.
That was his job. And with Duchatalet's track record, go against him or if he doesn't agree with you he will sack you there and then.
That's not journalism then is it? Why not quit earlier if it bothered him that much? I appreciate him coming out with this now but it's a year too late.
Do you agree with all of your boss' business decisions/strategy? If not, you best go and hand in your resignation now.
Not really. Couple of youngsters from the network at a million each a year perhaps.
But we're losing about £5ma year so we need to produce more than a couple of youngsters a year to cover our running costs and pay for players to replace the sold youth. If you look at Southampton in the summer they cashed in on good young players, but could not replace them from within their academy, so had to shell out on new player replacements.
We don't have players that will bring in the type of money southamptons did and we don't the youth coming through that will command the fees we need.
Easy for Jimmy to come out now and say this. He cares that much about Charlton that he was perfectly happy to pedal out any old nonsense from Duchatelet and co. at the time despite knowing it was rubbish. It's all a bit self-indulgent to me.
That was his job. And with Duchatalet's track record, go against him or if he doesn't agree with you he will sack you there and then.
That's not journalism then is it? Why not quit earlier if it bothered him that much? I appreciate him coming out with this now but it's a year too late.
He wasn't a journalist, he was content manager & involved in fan management I believe. Probably because it was his only source of income, and something he loved - do you easily leave something you love in life? I doubt it.. easier said than done.
Easy for Jimmy to come out now and say this. He cares that much about Charlton that he was perfectly happy to pedal out any old nonsense from Duchatelet and co. at the time despite knowing it was rubbish. It's all a bit self-indulgent to me.
That was his job. And with Duchatalet's track record, go against him or if he doesn't agree with you he will sack you there and then.
That's not journalism then is it? Why not quit earlier if it bothered him that much? I appreciate him coming out with this now but it's a year too late.
Jim was part of the Charlton comms team, not a journalist working on Charlton stories. Surely you can see the difference?
Why not quit earlier? Charlton was his first job, for the team he supports, in a field he enjoys and would like to make a career of. He also has a family and a mortgage. Have you ever had to do something in your job that you didn't agree with? If yes, why didn't you quit there and then?
Not really. Couple of youngsters from the network at a million each a year perhaps.
But we're losing about £5ma year so we need to produce more than a couple of youngsters a year to cover our running costs and pay for players to replace the sold youth. If you look at Southampton in the summer they cashed in on good young players, but could not replace them from within their academy, so had to shell out on new player replacements.
We don't have players that will bring in the type of money southamptons did and we don't the youth coming through that will command the fees we need.
Across the network. Aim is the network clubs breaking even by cutting costs and not spending for points then player sales for his profit. My opinion from day 1 but getting more and more solid. Moving money between clubs must be part of it too. Lots of questions eg why was charltons books used to but peter the pole for st truiden
For RD to come out and say he is not bothered about winning is a insult to every fan that buys a ticket, travels to games and shows how he really is not bothered about what football means.
If RD is not fussed about winning how do people think that is not ripping the heart of our club.
Not really. Couple of youngsters from the network at a million each a year perhaps.
But we're losing about £5ma year so we need to produce more than a couple of youngsters a year to cover our running costs and pay for players to replace the sold youth. If you look at Southampton in the summer they cashed in on good young players, but could not replace them from within their academy, so had to shell out on new player replacements.
We don't have players that will bring in the type of money southamptons did and we don't the youth coming through that will command the fees we need.
You are absolutely right Kap!
I must say, I was dissapointed that the window didn't produce us a new number 9, but what those people who are crying out for RD to leave the club conveniently forget is that we are losing around £5 million a year and he is bankrolling it!
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Duchatelet told him about replacing Powell in second half in this interview which he held with the owner http://t.co/0HXJG2WwQO which the team were then instructed to heavily cut.
I think the point he was probably trying to make (badly) is that it's about a long game. He's emotionally detached from the week to week grind and emotions of winning and losing games. He has a plan. A long term one at that. Losing a game has no impact on that.
That's just my interpretation of what that would mean. But who knows? RD is probably the only one.
Whether results matter or not the bald fact is we're not getting them anyway, and that is driving fans away.
My view is that RD is trying to make money from player sales NOT the big cash from Prem TV money (and the massive increase in salaries that would follow).
He is apparently investing in the academy; his player factory. He has already invested in the ground; his shop window. And already has a network of shops he can move his players to; the stock. The comment about not caring about winning means that it is not his priority - trading players is. He is quite happy to have his shop in Bluewater and not Bond Street (presumably because he doesn't like the running costs), whether he gets enough passing trade, and how much he needs to cut the selling prices if he needs to relocate to the High Street is his gamble.....
To that end the whole game/result is irrelevant to him - he sees the actual football/emotional side of things as a distraction.
Eventually, he decided to leave despite not having another job to go to which tells me he was less than "perfectly happy"
I take the Sheff United tweet to mean that Duchatelet offered Riga the job during the match, not asked him to step in and take charge immediately. Riga wasn't at the match, to my knowledge, although as we've discussed before Powell knew he was out before the game, as did the home directors. To my mind, Duchatelet's direct intervention in the build up to this match, to which thousands of Charlton fans had travelled, instructing Powell whom to play, is one of the biggest charges against him.
We don't have players that will bring in the type of money southamptons did and we don't the youth coming through that will command the fees we need.
Why not quit earlier? Charlton was his first job, for the team he supports, in a field he enjoys and would like to make a career of. He also has a family and a mortgage. Have you ever had to do something in your job that you didn't agree with? If yes, why didn't you quit there and then?
If RD is not fussed about winning how do people think that is not ripping the heart of our club.
I must say, I was dissapointed that the window didn't produce us a new number 9, but what those people who are crying out for RD to leave the club conveniently forget is that we are losing around £5 million a year and he is bankrolling it!