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Deaths of horses at Cheltenham race course
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It would be in bad taste for bookmakers to offer odds on the number of horse deaths at Cheltenham today.0
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Except when you jar a metal bar between it's gums attached to the jockey's hands so he can yank it about as he pleases as he thrashes his whip down upon it.superclive98 said:
Horses still do all of those things after they are 'broken'. That term merely relates to getting the horse to accept being ridden by a jockey, not the breaking of their will. An 8/9 stone jockey could not get a horse to do anything that it didn't want to do. That is why horses sometimes refuse to race or refuse to jump a fence.seth plum said:I wonder if we know that horses love the National Hunt racing. Horses in general are susceptible to being spooked. of for other reasons too they can rear, or buck, or kick, or roll or bolt.
In order to minimise this kind of stuff horses are what they call 'broken'. This kind of thing does not convince me they love it. And there are whips and bits and stuff used to, how shall I put it, 'enforce' that love.
Does not seem clear cut to me that they love it.
They are naturally herd animals and when they fall at a hurdle or fence they invariably get up and chase the others in the race and continue to jump - even the Grand National fences.
I AM NEITHER FOR OR AGAINST THE RACING OF NAGS0 -
Sorry. Couldn't resist.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-EStdvjd_8 8 -
Reading this does make me laugh...
People don't enjoy Horse racing, fine.
People enjoy Horse racing, fine.
People coming on a thread about the negatives of Horse racing just for a barney, brilliant.... I have even been dragged in!0 -
Wednesday March 16th 2016, Cheltenham racecourse
No More Heroes (IRE)
Gelding, aged 7
Jockey: B J Cooper
Experience: Professional
Tendon Injury - Destroyed
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I loathe horse racing - be quite happy for it to disappear.6
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You may loathe it, but it has been asserted on here that the horses are doing something they love.
I think what is meant, is that by having horse racing mankind is doing horses a favour.
I notice that today's casualty is a 'gelding', i.e. castrated.
I wonder when they whisper to horses (the system used presumably to find out if they like it or not) do they ask the question 'What would you love to do today? Carry some heavy human around Cheltenham with metal in your mouth and a stick waving about, jumping fences and such like, or would you prefer to stay home and have a shag?'1 -
Today, at Cheltenham racecouse. The FIFTH death in three days.
Niceonefrankie
Gelding, aged 10
Jockey: Charlie Deutsch
Cause of death: Fell - Dead
Discipline: National Hunt Chase
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Not going to bite........
Just to say {..}, okay, a little.
Still cannot understand why people quote on this thread for "fun".
My aching sides, so funny..........
Thank you Dan for what you said, unfortunately...........
Well, that's just it isn't it. Some people get their kicks off others suffering.
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Sad indeed, hate seeing animals needlessly die
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That's factually incorrect actually, the vast majority of race horses are insured.superclive98 said:
In other words they are writing off their investment and taking the advice of a vet to take the action that is in the best interest of the horse.PL54 said:superclive98 said:
Horses do not make good patients. The only way to treat a broken leg is to completely immobilise them, which is more inhumane than putting them out of their misery. You have to remember that owners invest a lot of money in their horses and many don't insure them because of the excessive costs. They wouldn't choose to dispose of their investment if it could be avoided.EveshamAddick said:Surely it is the destruction of an injured animal here that is inhumane (presumably because they are no longer worth anything to their owner). Just because you've broken your leg, why should you be put down?
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People are entitled to voice there own thoughts,feelings and opinions its just shame that do so without knowing the true facts or just say things to just try and wind people up.1
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It is not my intention to wind people up. I'm publishing the facts. Assuming that Animal Aid's racing consultant, Dene Stansall, is correct, there have been 51 horse deaths at the Cheltenham Festival since 2000.
Writing before the death of Niceonefrankie at the festival today, Dene wrote:
‘As in previous Festivals, we’ve seen horses pushed to their absolute physical limits, resulting in fatal injuries. A landmark figure of 50 Festival deaths since the year 2000 should shame Cheltenham racecourse and its supporters. Despite all the assurances about horse welfare being of prime concern, Cheltenham remains a graveyard for horses.’
For further information, click on the link below
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Jumps are rubbish to watch and kills horses.
Much rather watch flats racing any day0 -
Bungalow and house racing isnt bad to watch either2
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Perhaps we should ban motor sports as people have been killed participating, or are humans insignificant?0
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Save the Clay Pigeon !
Hundreds are shot every week.0 -
Being, as it is, the planet's pillager, architect-in-chief of, and foot-soldier for, animal abuse, I'd suggest that the human is certainly not insignificant.sralan said:Perhaps we should ban motor sports as people have been killed participating, or are humans insignificant?
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How many people have been killed in the last 3 days by cars? Now tell me you don't drive?Anna_Kissed said:Today, at Cheltenham racecouse. The FIFTH death in three days.
Niceonefrankie
Gelding, aged 10
Jockey: Charlie Deutsch
Cause of death: Fell - Dead
Discipline: National Hunt Chase
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Date: 18 Mar, 2016
Long Dog
A 6 year old gelding
Jockey: Ruby Walsh
Experience: Professional
Trainer: WP Mullins
Cause of death: Shattered Leg - Destroyed
Speaking to reporters after the death of Our Connor - at the 2014 Cheltenham Festival - Walsh said "Horses are horses. You can replace a horse". One wonders what pearl of wisdom he'll come out with this evening? Perhaps he'll keep tight-lipped. But probably not.
A horse has died on every day of this four-day 'festival': Three on Tuesday, one on Wednesday, one yesterday and one today. Six lovely horses, dead.
It's all driven by Money, Money, Money and some of us think it wholly unacceptable.3 -
For the record Long Dog broke his leg while running along the flat part of the track (you failed to mention that bit) which any horse will do in the wild.0
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Probably less likely than happening in a race surely? Also in the wild... Tough tits horsey. The fact is horses don't have the choice to be put into a race which increases their chances of dying. Drivers (whether for racing or to get from a to b) do.smiffyboy said:For the record Long Dog broke his leg while running along the flat part of the track (you failed to mention that bit) which any horse will do in the wild.
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Dead is dead. He wasn't running about of his own free-will, was he? He was dependent on his jockey or trainer and was there to make money. How very sad.3
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Of course Anna kissed wouldn't mention it Smithyboy as it serves them no purpose just like more than six lovely horses have been killed out in fields anywhere other than a racecourse over the past four days0
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Get back to yer Apologists' thread, Killer.0
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Your final little rant about it being driven by money money money Anna kissed really lets you down and shows how much you truly don't know about the world of horse racing0
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I respect people's views Anna kissed and always apologise when I'm wrong but just rants with no proper knowledge of what they are going on about is different1
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It's very sad a horse has died I have nearly lost one of my own but luckily it was saved but has had to undergo another operation I found out last night.I still pay towards his up keep and care and make no money from him and never have.The real sad thing is that you Anna kissed believe it's all done for money which is absolute rubbish!3
