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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    Henry Irving said:

    kentaddick said:

    I'm guessing there will be 3 options on the in out referendum - in, out and "renegotiate". The tories know that leaving the EU will be bad news, this referendum will be to keep their backbenchers quiet, but i think the majority will vote for renegotiate. That or no would be my vote.

    Don't believe they could have such a fudge option.

    "Renegotiate" would require another vote on what had been regenotiated and that would mean dragging out the process for even longer. It will be a yes or no IMHO and liblabcon and the press plus big business will all campaign to stay in.

    Latest polls (yes I know) say it is neck and neck on staying in or leaving.
    100% this.

    What about a Charlton life Poll ? The war needs starting again ;0)

  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,002
    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Henry Irving said:

    kentaddick said:

    I'm guessing there will be 3 options on the in out referendum - in, out and "renegotiate". The tories know that leaving the EU will be bad news, this referendum will be to keep their backbenchers quiet, but i think the majority will vote for renegotiate. That or no would be my vote.

    Don't believe they could have such a fudge option.

    "Renegotiate" would require another vote on what had been regenotiated and that would mean dragging out the process for even longer. It will be a yes or no IMHO and liblabcon and the press plus big business will all campaign to stay in.

    Latest polls (yes I know) say it is neck and neck on staying in or leaving.
    100% this.

    What about a Charlton life Poll ? The war needs starting again ;0)

    Good idea :wink:
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    stonemuse said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Henry Irving said:

    kentaddick said:

    I'm guessing there will be 3 options on the in out referendum - in, out and "renegotiate". The tories know that leaving the EU will be bad news, this referendum will be to keep their backbenchers quiet, but i think the majority will vote for renegotiate. That or no would be my vote.

    Don't believe they could have such a fudge option.

    "Renegotiate" would require another vote on what had been regenotiated and that would mean dragging out the process for even longer. It will be a yes or no IMHO and liblabcon and the press plus big business will all campaign to stay in.

    Latest polls (yes I know) say it is neck and neck on staying in or leaving.
    100% this.

    What about a Charlton life Poll ? The war needs starting again ;0)

    Good idea :wink:
    Go on then..!
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,002
    Chizz said:

    stonemuse said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Henry Irving said:

    kentaddick said:

    I'm guessing there will be 3 options on the in out referendum - in, out and "renegotiate". The tories know that leaving the EU will be bad news, this referendum will be to keep their backbenchers quiet, but i think the majority will vote for renegotiate. That or no would be my vote.

    Don't believe they could have such a fudge option.

    "Renegotiate" would require another vote on what had been regenotiated and that would mean dragging out the process for even longer. It will be a yes or no IMHO and liblabcon and the press plus big business will all campaign to stay in.

    Latest polls (yes I know) say it is neck and neck on staying in or leaving.
    100% this.

    What about a Charlton life Poll ? The war needs starting again ;0)

    Good idea :wink:
    Go on then..!
    I vote in
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,334
    stonemuse said:

    Chizz said:

    stonemuse said:

    ShootersHillGuru said:

    Henry Irving said:

    kentaddick said:

    I'm guessing there will be 3 options on the in out referendum - in, out and "renegotiate". The tories know that leaving the EU will be bad news, this referendum will be to keep their backbenchers quiet, but i think the majority will vote for renegotiate. That or no would be my vote.

    Don't believe they could have such a fudge option.

    "Renegotiate" would require another vote on what had been regenotiated and that would mean dragging out the process for even longer. It will be a yes or no IMHO and liblabcon and the press plus big business will all campaign to stay in.

    Latest polls (yes I know) say it is neck and neck on staying in or leaving.
    100% this.

    What about a Charlton life Poll ? The war needs starting again ;0)

    Good idea :wink:
    Go on then..!
    I vote in
    In. Of course. In almost any conceivable circumstance.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,413
    I vote out.

    I get the feeling that a lot of people feel very deflated with Farage's resignation and I understand that. He's the only bloke who will talk about the EU, immigration and grammar schools whilst the other parties devote themselves to non-issues such as the NHS which we know is just a political weapon.

    I do hope he comes back and I also hope he understands what an incredible achievement getting almost 1 in 9 people to vote UKIP is.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    The NHS is a non issue.

    Give me strength.
  • cafcnick1992
    cafcnick1992 Posts: 7,413
    Do you seriously think that having Labour or the Torys in charge really changes much as far as the NHS is concerned?
  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128
    Think he may've miss read your post mate
  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128
    Question Time on tonight, who's watching?

    ; )
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  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,052
    brogib said:

    Question Time on tonight, who's watching?

    ; )

    Is Russell Brand on?
  • brogib
    brogib Posts: 2,128
    newyorkaddick said:

    brogib said:

    Question Time on tonight, who's watching?

    ; )

    Is Russell Brand on?
    Alistair Campbell is
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    cafcnick1992 said:

    Do you seriously think that having Labour or the Torys in charge really changes much as far as the NHS is concerned?

    To me, it's probably one of the only places where they do differ.
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    brogib said:

    Think he may've miss read your post mate

    No I didn't.

  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    I'm leaving this thread whilst I be still got my sanity.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,446
    kentaddick said:

    I'm guessing there will be 3 options on the in out referendum - in, out and "renegotiate". The tories know that leaving the EU will be bad news, this referendum will be to keep their backbenchers quiet, but i think the majority will vote for renegotiate. That or no would be my vote.

    No chance of that. Too much risk in splitting the in vote.

    It'll be a simple yes/no vote, with the polls at the moment showing that most are in favour of in.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,053
    kentaddick said:

    I'm guessing there will be 3 options on the in out referendum - in, out and "renegotiate". The tories know that leaving the EU will be bad news, this referendum will be to keep their backbenchers quiet, but i think the majority will vote for renegotiate. That or no would be my vote.

    Damn! Was so hoping that the 3rd option was going to be "shake it all about", but that's what "renegotiate" is anyway I suppose. :wink:
  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,283
    cafcnick1992 said:

    Do you seriously think that having Labour or the Torys in charge really changes much as far as the NHS is concerned?

    Well...guess we are about to find out what happens to the NHS under the Tories.

    Personally I think we are staring down on the cliff edge from which they'll be no coming back.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    @TelMc32 what's your thoughts on where Labour go from here mate?
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,601
    AFKABartram said:

    @TelMc32 what's your thoughts on where Labour go from here mate?

    The pub one would think.
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  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    leaving the EU would be like moving your shop out of bluewater to a little road round the corner from the big car park. Madness.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    kentaddick said:

    leaving the EU would be like moving your shop out of bluewater to a little road round the corner from the big car park. Madness.

    That's a brilliant quote, sums it up perfectly !
  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,283
    kentaddick said:

    leaving the EU would be like moving your shop out of bluewater to a little road round the corner from the big car park. Madness.

    Yet you seem quite happy that Cameron is happy to risk that very thing.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Bournemouth Addick said:

    kentaddick said:

    leaving the EU would be like moving your shop out of bluewater to a little road round the corner from the big car park. Madness.

    Yet you seem quite happy that Cameron is happy to risk that very thing.
    i'm pretty certain that the country would choose to stay in the EU, as does cameron. He's doing it to keep his backbenchers happy.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Unlike socialists, I'm not afraid of a bit of democracy.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,315
    edited May 2015
    Bring on the referendum. If we vote in then the xenophobes can zip it. If we vote out there will be open revolt
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    kentaddick said:

    Bournemouth Addick said:

    kentaddick said:

    leaving the EU would be like moving your shop out of bluewater to a little road round the corner from the big car park. Madness.

    Yet you seem quite happy that Cameron is happy to risk that very thing.
    i'm pretty certain that the country would choose to stay in the EU, as does cameron. He's doing it to keep his backbenchers happy.
    And also try to dilute the UKIP effect, though on vote wise that didn't seem to carry through.

    Disappointment for me as someone who would definitely vote to stay in (would have answered differently five years ago) is that Europe is going to be massively on the agenda for the next two years when there are so many more important areas of concentration.

  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,853
    Well I for one have enjoyed the verbal jousting ( can you even do that online?) between Fiish ShootersHill et al even when some of the brickbats and responses have been let's say robust. Have learnt a lot on this thread mainly due to both sides producing actual statistics and linking to articles to back up their claims and counterclaims. On such an emotive subject once the results were in emotions were gonna be running high but I say bring on the GENERAL ELECTION 2020 thread.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    AFKABartram said:

    kentaddick said:

    Bournemouth Addick said:

    kentaddick said:

    leaving the EU would be like moving your shop out of bluewater to a little road round the corner from the big car park. Madness.

    Yet you seem quite happy that Cameron is happy to risk that very thing.
    i'm pretty certain that the country would choose to stay in the EU, as does cameron. He's doing it to keep his backbenchers happy.
    And also try to dilute the UKIP effect, though on vote wise that didn't seem to carry through.

    Disappointment for me as someone who would definitely vote to stay in (would have answered differently five years ago) is that Europe is going to be massively on the agenda for the next two years when there are so many more important areas of concentration.

    It's almost as if someone wants to keep us looking the wrong way whilst he carry a out his dastardly plan...
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    MrOneLung said:

    Well I for one have enjoyed the verbal jousting ( can you even do that online?) between Fiish ShootersHill et al even when some of the brickbats and responses have been let's say robust. Have learnt a lot on this thread mainly due to both sides producing actual statistics and linking to articles to back up their claims and counterclaims. On such an emotive subject once the results were in emotions were gonna be running high but I say bring on the GENERAL ELECTION 2020 thread.

    Don't get me wrong I'm not bowing out of the thread, I'm just refusing to engage with the 4 or 5 trolls whose only contribution so far to this thread is finding ways of comparing me to a phallus.

    That said this thread is an election thread, the election is over so apart from Dave establishing a Government there's little else to discuss.

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