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https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/crossrail-at-risk-of-being-delayed-even-further-a4188451.html
Christ. At this rate we might even get taken over before this bloody opens!7 -
Looks good!
Forgot about this thread, hilarious stuff!0 -
Absolute tossers!! I'll be bloody retired before they open it and won't need an 8 minute journey home from work!! ;-/carly burn said:https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/crossrail-at-risk-of-being-delayed-even-further-a4188451.html
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After crossrail, which im not getting into the politics, just agree it is a huge huge engineering project that will benefit many people, i hope they can get around to upgrading local stations. Still cant believe so many stations dont have lifts still in 20190
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You say that like it's not some huge engineering job!orpingtonRED said:After crossrail, which im not getting into the politics, just agree it is a huge huge engineering project that will benefit many people, i hope they can get around to upgrading local stations. Still cant believe so many stations dont have lifts still in 2019
Some tube stations are 100 years old and very deep underground!0 -
Sorry i meant train stations lolcafcnick1992 said:
You say that like it's not some huge engineering job!orpingtonRED said:After crossrail, which im not getting into the politics, just agree it is a huge huge engineering project that will benefit many people, i hope they can get around to upgrading local stations. Still cant believe so many stations dont have lifts still in 2019
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I see some stations with no lifts or even a ramp still?orpingtonRED said:
Sorry i meant train stations lolcafcnick1992 said:
You say that like it's not some huge engineering job!orpingtonRED said:After crossrail, which im not getting into the politics, just agree it is a huge huge engineering project that will benefit many people, i hope they can get around to upgrading local stations. Still cant believe so many stations dont have lifts still in 2019
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How hard can it be to dig a lift size hole?cafcnick1992 said:
You say that like it's not some huge engineering job!orpingtonRED said:After crossrail, which im not getting into the politics, just agree it is a huge huge engineering project that will benefit many people, i hope they can get around to upgrading local stations. Still cant believe so many stations dont have lifts still in 2019
Some tube stations are 100 years old and very deep underground!1 -
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I’m currently working for London Underground on Step Free access programme, there’s currently on going works at 6 stations installing new lifts.orpingtonRED said:After crossrail, which im not getting into the politics, just agree it is a huge huge engineering project that will benefit many people, i hope they can get around to upgrading local stations. Still cant believe so many stations dont have lifts still in 20194 -
Take Petts Wood for an example. From the Daylight side, its two flights up, two flights down to any platform. From the Sovereign side, its one flight up, two down. Was turned down for funding for step free access not so long ago. Disgraceful really.orpingtonRED said:
I see some stations with no lifts or even a ramp still?orpingtonRED said:
Sorry i meant train stations lolcafcnick1992 said:
You say that like it's not some huge engineering job!orpingtonRED said:After crossrail, which im not getting into the politics, just agree it is a huge huge engineering project that will benefit many people, i hope they can get around to upgrading local stations. Still cant believe so many stations dont have lifts still in 2019
Some tube stations are 100 years old and very deep underground!1 -
https://www.bromleytimes.co.uk/news/step-free-stations-at-petts-wood-and-st-mary-cray-1-5984631JohnBoyUK said:
Take Petts Wood for an example. From the Daylight side, its two flights up, two flights down to any platform. From the Sovereign side, its one flight up, two down. Was turned down for funding for step free access not so long ago. Disgraceful really.orpingtonRED said:
I see some stations with no lifts or even a ramp still?orpingtonRED said:
Sorry i meant train stations lolcafcnick1992 said:
You say that like it's not some huge engineering job!orpingtonRED said:After crossrail, which im not getting into the politics, just agree it is a huge huge engineering project that will benefit many people, i hope they can get around to upgrading local stations. Still cant believe so many stations dont have lifts still in 2019
Some tube stations are 100 years old and very deep underground!
https://www.southeasternrailway.co.uk/about-us/major-programmes/access-for-all
Petts Wood is one of the next stations to go step free.1 -
On the plus side, no barriers!JohnBoyUK said:
Take Petts Wood for an example. From the Daylight side, its two flights up, two flights down to any platform. From the Sovereign side, its one flight up, two down. Was turned down for funding for step free access not so long ago. Disgraceful really.orpingtonRED said:
I see some stations with no lifts or even a ramp still?orpingtonRED said:
Sorry i meant train stations lolcafcnick1992 said:
You say that like it's not some huge engineering job!orpingtonRED said:After crossrail, which im not getting into the politics, just agree it is a huge huge engineering project that will benefit many people, i hope they can get around to upgrading local stations. Still cant believe so many stations dont have lifts still in 2019
Some tube stations are 100 years old and very deep underground!1 -
Deferred to 'as soon as possible', sometime anytime
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/nov/08/crossrail-faces-further-delays-and-will-cost-more-than-18bn-tfl
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The opening of London's Crossrail project will be delayed until 2021 as Europe's biggest infrastructure scheme is set to go another £650m over budget.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50345344
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smiffyboy said:
I’m currently working for London Underground on Step Free access programme, there’s currently on going works at 6 stations installing new lifts.orpingtonRED said:After crossrail, which im not getting into the politics, just agree it is a huge huge engineering project that will benefit many people, i hope they can get around to upgrading local stations. Still cant believe so many stations dont have lifts still in 2019
There's a bloody good chance that I know you if you're working on SFA.Assume you're based over at BPR somewhere?
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TfL have this morning revealed that Crossrail has been delayed yet further until autumn 2021. The previous hope was early 2021 though this is hardly a surprise given recent progress.
The delay is mainly due to signalling issues. Most stations are now complete or almost ready.
https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2020/01/06/crossrail-delayed-yet-further-to-autumn-2021/
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Bump :-)carly burn said:https://www.standard.co.uk/news/transport/crossrail-at-risk-of-being-delayed-even-further-a4188451.html
Christ. At this rate we might even get taken over before this bloody opens!1 -
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If you're interested (which you're not)... If I'd stayed in Charlton working 4 days a week at telcos in Maidenhead, Slough, Paddington etc. rather than pissing off to Canada - a conservative estimate would be that this ~3 year crossrail delay would have cost me around 564 hours extra commuting.
Probably still worth it not to have missed the play-off final, though!2 -
Railway signalling must have got really really difficult in the last 5 years. There's permanent trouble all around Lewisham, according to southeastern; Branson had recurring issues all up the WCML for years; now Crossrail can't build em right from scratch on almost entirely new trackways.clive said:TfL have this morning revealed that Crossrail has been delayed yet further until autumn 2021. The previous hope was early 2021 though this is hardly a surprise given recent progress.
The delay is mainly due to signalling issues. Most stations are now complete or almost ready.
https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2020/01/06/crossrail-delayed-yet-further-to-autumn-2021/
Either that or all those cash guzzling frauds reckon that's the sort of plausible sounding bullshit they can trot out to mislead the gullible gravy train suckers at DoT and fob off us poor saps who have to fund the whole farago and use the runt of a so called service that's left.3 -
How do the numbers stack up with this as the stations where you have to get a lift take far longer to exit than those with escalators and I generally do not travel at peak times..smiffyboy said:
I’m currently working for London Underground on Step Free access programme, there’s currently on going works at 6 stations installing new lifts.orpingtonRED said:After crossrail, which im not getting into the politics, just agree it is a huge huge engineering project that will benefit many people, i hope they can get around to upgrading local stations. Still cant believe so many stations dont have lifts still in 20190 -
I seem to recall it's not the signalling on the Crossrail track that is a problem. Crossrail also uses or crosses non-Crossrail track and it is the integration of the various signalling and train control systems that is the issue along with very limited testing time each night.StigThundercock said:
Railway signalling must have got really really difficult in the last 5 years. There's permanent trouble all around Lewisham, according to southeastern; Branson had recurring issues all up the WCML for years; now Crossrail can't build em right from scratch on almost entirely new trackways.clive said:TfL have this morning revealed that Crossrail has been delayed yet further until autumn 2021. The previous hope was early 2021 though this is hardly a surprise given recent progress.
The delay is mainly due to signalling issues. Most stations are now complete or almost ready.
https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2020/01/06/crossrail-delayed-yet-further-to-autumn-2021/
Either that or all those cash guzzling frauds reckon that's the sort of plausible sounding bullshit they can trot out to mislead the gullible gravy train suckers at DoT and fob off us poor saps who have to fund the whole farago and use the runt of a so called service that's left.
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Pretty much, different signalling system on the line between Paddinton and Reading, a different one to Heathrow, and a different one up to Shenfield, the systems all need to talk to each other, and a train from say Abbey Wood to Heathrow, would need to be able to communicate with three different systems to complete its journey and keep passengers safe.Hex said:
I seem to recall it's not the signalling on the Crossrail track that is a problem. Crossrail also uses or crosses non-Crossrail track and it is the integration of the various signalling and train control systems that is the issue along with very limited testing time each night.StigThundercock said:
Railway signalling must have got really really difficult in the last 5 years. There's permanent trouble all around Lewisham, according to southeastern; Branson had recurring issues all up the WCML for years; now Crossrail can't build em right from scratch on almost entirely new trackways.clive said:TfL have this morning revealed that Crossrail has been delayed yet further until autumn 2021. The previous hope was early 2021 though this is hardly a surprise given recent progress.
The delay is mainly due to signalling issues. Most stations are now complete or almost ready.
https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2020/01/06/crossrail-delayed-yet-further-to-autumn-2021/
Either that or all those cash guzzling frauds reckon that's the sort of plausible sounding bullshit they can trot out to mislead the gullible gravy train suckers at DoT and fob off us poor saps who have to fund the whole farago and use the runt of a so called service that's left.0 -
On a positive note. Soon they won't be able to refer to it as Europe's biggest project (Unless they go by Continent of course) :-)
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On a negative note. This country could not collectively shit in a bucket and get it right!0
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Rothko said:
Pretty much, different signalling system on the line between Paddinton and Reading, a different one to Heathrow, and a different one up to Shenfield, the systems all need to talk to each other, and a train from say Abbey Wood to Heathrow, would need to be able to communicate with three different systems to complete its journey and keep passengers safe.Hex said:
I seem to recall it's not the signalling on the Crossrail track that is a problem. Crossrail also uses or crosses non-Crossrail track and it is the integration of the various signalling and train control systems that is the issue along with very limited testing time each night.StigThundercock said:
Railway signalling must have got really really difficult in the last 5 years. There's permanent trouble all around Lewisham, according to southeastern; Branson had recurring issues all up the WCML for years; now Crossrail can't build em right from scratch on almost entirely new trackways.clive said:TfL have this morning revealed that Crossrail has been delayed yet further until autumn 2021. The previous hope was early 2021 though this is hardly a surprise given recent progress.
The delay is mainly due to signalling issues. Most stations are now complete or almost ready.
https://www.fromthemurkydepths.co.uk/2020/01/06/crossrail-delayed-yet-further-to-autumn-2021/
Either that or all those cash guzzling frauds reckon that's the sort of plausible sounding bullshit they can trot out to mislead the gullible gravy train suckers at DoT and fob off us poor saps who have to fund the whole farago and use the runt of a so called service that's left.
The on board train software needs to translate the 3 different signal systems instantaneously as the train moves through the system which is part of the problem. Bearing in mind the timing of the service it is very difficult to run this train service with the driver in control.0 -
Interesting to find out how it compares with Paris and their Grand Express project for new metro lines.MrOneLung said:
Surely it is by continent - it was not referred as EU's biggest project.DRAddick said:On a positive note. Soon they won't be able to refer to it as Europe's biggest project (Unless they go by Continent of course) :-)1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8dB4YnLSsE
