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  • That's not a good price at all even if it came with a monitor. For that money you would want an i5 processor, 8-16GB Ram with an SSD drive.

    Check ebuyer below for a decent price comparison.

    http://m.ebuyer.com/?action=viewCategory&intCategoryId=191
  • Have you considered asking the club what they normally use to run the player stats? I'd avoid that.
  • CrayValley, please do not buy that computer!!
  • @cafcnick1992 @daveydanger @DavidCee13

    I popped into a local independent computer place and he quoted me this;

    Generation Intel Pentium dual core processor

    4 GB ddr3 ram

    a 1 TB hard drive and a copy of windows home 64bit either 7,
    8.1 or 10 start from £475 inc vat. He mentioned Microsoft office would be around £120.

    Considering I know nothing about computers is that good value?

    No that is a terrible deal.

    Just having a quick look on PC world, for around the same money these would be far better options:

    pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/hp-pavilion-550-153na-desktop-pc-exclusive-white-10138663-pdt.html

    pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/computing/desktop-pcs/desktop-pcs/acer-aspire-xc-705-desktop-pc-10138417-pdt.html

  • edited February 2016
    It's a shame those pcworld machines still come with archaic hard drives.

    But at least they have decent levels of ram to somewhat mitigate that
  • It's a shame those pcworld machines still come with archaic hard drives.

    But at least they have decent levels of ram to somewhat mitigate that

    Indeed but all the ssd machines on pc world were like £1000+ ridiculous
  • £120 for MS Office? Sheesh!
  • edited February 2016
    Pc world is a rip off. Something like this would suit your needs i think? Ssd included for around £480. @CrayAddick

    https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-tech-labs-h170-b150-skylake-ddr3-home-and-small-office-atx-pc-configurator-fs-012-tl.html#t=e0
  • Have had two Dell machines in ten years and they have been brilliant to be fair. On their website you can make it a bit bespoke as well.
  • aliwibble said:

    £120 for MS Office? Sheesh!

    Indeed! Rip-off. Especially when LibraOffice is free and does much the same job.
    pcworld.com/article/2042552/review-libreoffice-4-liberates-you-from-microsoft-office.html
    Version 5 of LibraOffice due soon.
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  • @cafcnick1992 @SamB09 @DavidCee13 what would you lads recommend?

    Budget is up to £400. I want it run a website, Internet browsing, do some typing up documents and of course playing football manager in its full glory.
  • Sorry to hijack the thread but it seemed like a good place.

    Anyone know of anywhere to get a dirt cheap old/refurnished laptop for not very much?

    I literally only want it to play this:

    m.ebay.co.uk/itm/CM-01-02-Championship-Manager-Season-2001-2002-PC-Game-DISC-UPDATES-Football-/301858131448?nav=SEARCH

    So don't need anything good, just very cheap and working!
  • Morgan Computers seem to have a good reputation for refurbished/reconditioned laptops:

    http://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/c/404/Laptops-Netbooks/


  • Thanks, I'll take a look.

  • I'm a web designer/developer. My home iMac is still super-quick after 4 years - one of the reasons they are they only machines we buy at our company. You won't find a PC that will last you more than a couple - all the ones we use for testing at work just slow down and eventually become tedious and unusable.

    The extra money is a pretty sound investment imo.

    But all you have to do is reinstall your OS every 2/3 years. Waste.
  • @cafcnick1992 @SamB09 @DavidCee13 what would you lads recommend?

    Budget is up to £400. I want it run a website, Internet browsing, do some typing up documents and of course playing football manager in its full glory.

    It's frustrating @CrayAddick because £400 could take you a long way if you built a machine yourself. I'll take a look around during work tomorrow and see what I can find.
  • I'm a web designer/developer. My home iMac is still super-quick after 4 years - one of the reasons they are they only machines we buy at our company. You won't find a PC that will last you more than a couple - all the ones we use for testing at work just slow down and eventually become tedious and unusable.

    The extra money is a pretty sound investment imo.

    But all you have to do is reinstall your OS every 2/3 years. Waste.
    No, you won't. It's a free upgrade on all new Mac OS versions every year or so - which takes about 20 minutes and causes almost no inconvenience to the average user.

    There can be a slight ballache updating some stuff like MySQL - but I don't think that's what we're talking about here.
  • Oggy Red said:

    Morgan Computers seem to have a good reputation for refurbished/reconditioned laptops:

    http://www.morgancomputers.co.uk/c/404/Laptops-Netbooks/

    Yep, I've been getting mine there since they had a shop in Tottenham Court Rd. You need to check carefully which OS they come with (and how many slots they've got available for RAM if you're planning on upgrading the memory) but you can get some good deals and they don't mind putting you through to their techies if you've got a question about the hardware that the sales bods can't answer.
  • edited February 2016

    I'm a web designer/developer. My home iMac is still super-quick after 4 years - one of the reasons they are they only machines we buy at our company. You won't find a PC that will last you more than a couple - all the ones we use for testing at work just slow down and eventually become tedious and unusable.

    The extra money is a pretty sound investment imo.

    But all you have to do is reinstall your OS every 2/3 years. Waste.
    No, you won't. It's a free upgrade on all new Mac OS versions every year or so - which takes about 20 minutes and causes almost no inconvenience to the average user.

    There can be a slight ballache updating some stuff like MySQL - but I don't think that's what we're talking about here.
    I didn't know this. So it automatically clears out your registry every year of all the crap and odds and ends that slow you down? That's a handy feature. How does that work? It creates a partition or....?

    I still think Macs are insanely overpriced, but that is pretty good. I just had to spend the best part of 4 hours reinstalling. Having said which my £350 ASUS 6g i5 is now whizzing along as good as ever 3.5 years later! I plan to exchange the old mechanical hard drive with a SSD and then it'll be good for another 5 years I reckon.


  • cafcfan said:

    aliwibble said:

    £120 for MS Office? Sheesh!

    Indeed! Rip-off. Especially when LibraOffice is free and does much the same job.
    pcworld.com/article/2042552/review-libreoffice-4-liberates-you-from-microsoft-office.html
    Version 5 of LibraOffice due soon.
    Avoid IBM Lotus suite though which will leave you stranded by crashing spectacularly in the middle of a presentation.
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  • edited February 2016

    I'm a web designer/developer. My home iMac is still super-quick after 4 years - one of the reasons they are they only machines we buy at our company. You won't find a PC that will last you more than a couple - all the ones we use for testing at work just slow down and eventually become tedious and unusable.

    The extra money is a pretty sound investment imo.

    But all you have to do is reinstall your OS every 2/3 years. Waste.
    No, you won't. It's a free upgrade on all new Mac OS versions every year or so - which takes about 20 minutes and causes almost no inconvenience to the average user.

    There can be a slight ballache updating some stuff like MySQL - but I don't think that's what we're talking about here.
    I didn't know this. So it automatically clears out your registry every year of all the crap and odds and ends that slow you down? That's a handy feature. How does that work? It creates a partition or....?

    I still think Macs are insanely overpriced, but that is pretty good. I just had to spend the best part of 4 hours reinstalling. Having said which my £350 ASUS 6g i5 is now whizzing along as good as ever 3.5 years later! I plan to exchange the old mechanical hard drive with a SSD and then it'll be good for another 5 years I reckon.


    I don't think Macs have a registry like that, but sorry I'm not really an expert in that department. Just talking from a fairly heavy user perspective really (development, design, some video editing) - I've never had to do the old Windows 'wipe and start again' like I often had to with PCs.

  • I'm a web designer/developer. My home iMac is still super-quick after 4 years - one of the reasons they are they only machines we buy at our company. You won't find a PC that will last you more than a couple - all the ones we use for testing at work just slow down and eventually become tedious and unusable.

    The extra money is a pretty sound investment imo.

    But all you have to do is reinstall your OS every 2/3 years. Waste.
    No, you won't. It's a free upgrade on all new Mac OS versions every year or so - which takes about 20 minutes and causes almost no inconvenience to the average user.

    There can be a slight ballache updating some stuff like MySQL - but I don't think that's what we're talking about here.
    I didn't know this. So it automatically clears out your registry every year of all the crap and odds and ends that slow you down? That's a handy feature. How does that work? It creates a partition or....?

    I still think Macs are insanely overpriced, but that is pretty good. I just had to spend the best part of 4 hours reinstalling. Having said which my £350 ASUS 6g i5 is now whizzing along as good as ever 3.5 years later! I plan to exchange the old mechanical hard drive with a SSD and then it'll be good for another 5 years I reckon.


    I don't think Macs have a registry like that, but sorry I'm not really an expert in that department. Just talking from a fairly heavy user perspective really (development, design, some video editing) - I've never had to do the old Windows 'wipe and start again' like I often had to with PCs.

    Never had to do that. Ever. When using Windows on the ancient desktop (still got Windows 10 on a laptop), just use CCleaner every now and again to clear crap from the registry, temp files, etc. You fruit fan boys, honestly, what are you like?
    BTW, interesting that CCleaner is now available for Mac - wonder why they've introduced that?
  • Ccleaner ok for a bit of light dusting in my experience but eventually you have to move the furniture and get the Vax out.
  • MarkyE83 said:

    The build quality is very good. I have a 14" one that was bought around 6 months ago. I'll look up the spec list tomorrow when I'm back in the office, it's pretty much maxed out.

    I had one previously for 3 years that was 15" which we now use in the TV studio, still does an excellent job and the IPS screen is still ghost / pixel free. We have about 8 in the company and one was sent back for a failed network component, was replaced quickly with postage covered. From my own experience they are excellent and the components used are top quality.


    Hi Marky, any chance you can find a moment to check out the models/specs of your PC Specialist laptops, please?

    Thanks!



  • @cafcnick1992 what do you think mate?
  • What do you lads think of this one? Good value?

    AMD A10-7850K
    8GB RAM + 1TB HDD
    DVDRW + 120GB SSD
    AMD Radeon R7 Graphics
    Windows 10 Home
  • Comparing it to this one... Reviews seem better??
  • I do like ebuyer but how they label that as a gaming pc i have no idea!!! I would advise a PC with at least an i3/i5 intel processsor, may add on about 50-100 to your budget but it would be worthwhile.
  • @SamB09 what sort of thing would you look at on ebuyer?
  • Has anyone got a Apple Mac Mini?
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