I hate the idea of torturing animals in the name of sport.
It isn't a class issue, I know plenty of working class people who support and take part in Fox hunting.
It isn't a townie v bumpkin thing as lots of rural people oppose hunting. It just isn't a good idea to make your views too obvious. There are townies who go out to the country to join in. In fact when I lived in se london I had to see off some lads who came on to private land to dig out a foxes earth.
It definitely ain't about vermin control or the huntsmen wouldn't encourage foxes on to land to train their dogs to rip the pups apart and give the hunt some quarry.
If foxes are causing specific issues, which they certainly can, then deal with it humainly.
It's a sick past time that cannot be tolorated in a society that calls itself civilised.
No, foxes are usually wary of people and run away to avoid adults and children. They can learn to trust people who are not causing them harm and may appear quite bold - but this is unlikely to be a sign of aggression.
Do foxes carry disease?
Yes, although in the UK there is little or no danger of contracting disease from foxes. Although they can carry the same diseases as domestic dogs it is rare for a fox to transmit disease to humans. What diseases do foxes have?
Foxes have a variety of fleas and ticks and carry some diseases, including:
Toxocariasis
The the most common disease they can transmit is toxocariasis from the roundworm (Toxocara canis). The worms produce eggs which are then released in the faeces of infected animals and contaminate soil.
You are more likely to catch toxocariasis from cat or dog faeces than fox. In extreme cases it can lead to blindness which is why in recent years dog owners have been encouraged to use poop-a-scoops. It has been reported in people of all ages but it usually affects children aged between one and four who are most at risk because their play habits make them more likely to come into contact with contaminated soil.
It's therefore important to make sure fox faeces is removed as soon as possible and that children wash their hands after playing outdoors and before they eat.
Treatment for toxocariasis involves taking medication to kill the parasites and occasionally laser treatment to kill larvae in the eye. Most people will quickly make a full recovery and won't experience any long-term complications. Mange
It is possible to get mange from foxes but the risk is very low, as direct contact is the most likely source of infection. The fox strain of mange (Sarcoptes scabiei var. canis) can be transmitted to humans but cannot persist, so people infected develop a rash that naturally resolves in a few weeks. The chances of infection increase with the degree of contact so it is not advisable to handle mangy foxes without protection.
Fox bites
A fox bite is painful but offers less potential for infection than a domestic cat bite or scratch. Unless you are a wildlife rescuer fox bites are rare. However, it is always wise to seek antibiotic treatment for any animal bite, plus vaccination against tetanus.
How can we protect ourselves from foxes?
I think i'd be more concerned about cats and dogs.
I thought 99% of Charlton fans were all for Fox hunting, he certainly got enough stick when he was with us anyway
I'm no activist or such like, but I can see no reason to bring back fox hunting as it was, basically a pack of dogs chasing a wild animal and then ripping it apart and killing it.
That said I'm all for culling their numbers, sick to death of the family of about 8 that next door but one feed with a couple of whole chickens every day, they've become so tame they'll come in the house if I leave the door open.
I hate the idea of torturing animals in the name of sport.
It isn't a class issue, I know plenty of working class people who support and take part in Fox hunting.
It isn't a townie v bumpkin thing as lots of rural people oppose hunting. It just isn't a good idea to make your views too obvious. There are townies who go out to the country to join in. In fact when I lived in se london I had to see off some lads who came on to private land to dig out a foxes earth.
It definitely ain't about vermin control or the huntsmen wouldn't encourage foxes on to land to train their dogs to rip the pups apart and give the hunt some quarry.
If foxes are causing specific issues, which they certainly can, then deal with it humainly.
It's a sick past time that cannot be tolorated in a society that calls itself civilised.
Forelock tugging like that is part of the class system.
Some people still believe that fawning over the Lord of the Manor will get them somewhere in life.
Everything else in your post is spot on, especially the last line
I thought 99% of Charlton fans were all for Fox hunting, he certainly got enough stick when he was with us anyway
I'm no activist or such like, but I can see no reason to bring back fox hunting as it was, basically a pack of dogs chasing a wild animal and then ripping it apart and killing it.
That said I'm all for culling their numbers, sick to death of the family of about 8 that next door but one feed with a couple of whole chickens every day, they've become so tame they'll come in the house if I leave the door open.
If there is a need for a cull of foxes, then it should be done as a sad chore, not part of a peasure activity for a few. I have never understood the argument, where cruelty to animals can be accepted. Yes we eat animals, but our humanity should dictate we kill them as humanely as we can. Blood sports should never be accepted. I am always happy to see a beautiful creature like a fox.
It's always shocking how many people that live in London care about the killing of vermin.
If it was a ban on killing rats, I imagine opinions would be very different.
I think it's more about the way it's done mate. If there needs to be some kind of cull then a more humane way is fine but chasing it all over the country to be killed by a pack of dogs is a bit barbaric no?
It is, I agree, however I'm not sure we need to make such a huge deal out of this, our country has other, imo, bigger issues we could be focusing our energies on.
Don't tell us Stu, tell the PM, she seems to think it's important...
Barbric,ritialistic shit. Same as the dickheads that hunt lions,tigers and any other wild animal.If you want to prove that you are a warrior get in the octagon or the boxing ring.
I hate the idea of torturing animals in the name of sport.
It isn't a class issue, I know plenty of working class people who support and take part in Fox hunting.
It isn't a townie v bumpkin thing as lots of rural people oppose hunting. It just isn't a good idea to make your views too obvious. There are townies who go out to the country to join in. In fact when I lived in se london I had to see off some lads who came on to private land to dig out a foxes earth.
It definitely ain't about vermin control or the huntsmen wouldn't encourage foxes on to land to train their dogs to rip the pups apart and give the hunt some quarry.
If foxes are causing specific issues, which they certainly can, then deal with it humainly.
It's a sick past time that cannot be tolorated in a society that calls itself civilised.
Forelock tugging like that is part of the class system.
Some people still believe that fawning over the Lord of the Manor will get them somewhere in life.
Everything else in your post is spot on, especially the last line
How utterly ridiculous, nowadays it's far more likely to be the exact opposite.
What really grates on me is these Hunts spin the line that they only do it because of the public service in keeping down the sick and old foxes and it has nothing to do with them poncing about in 17th century clothes riding roughshod through the countryside blowing on horns and quaffing sherry and daubing blood.
It's sickens me.
Just ask them to forget the foxes and do their bit for public service by digging a few ditches or layering a few hedges and see how many of them turn out for that.
The self-appointed 'Guardians of the countryside'. I have attended foxhunts in Kent, Surrey, Sussex and Essex since the 1990s and have seen some sights. There's arrogance demonstrated by some of the hunt 'top brass' and cap-doffing deference shown by some of the hunt followers. Some of the latter are not able to keep up with the hunt and haven't a clue about what's going on. They offer support in some belief that they are preserving tradition. Lest anyone should think that the hunt ban holds fast, it does not. Some hunts go out during the midweek, hoping to avoid opposition and catch a fox. There's a need for greater enforcement of the law on this issue but the police, for the most part, aren't interested in providing officers....so now, as in the past, it's the hunt sabs that reduce / prevent the maiming and killing. Please don't believe that hunting is about the 'thrill of the chase'. When an exhausted fox goes to earth, the hunt doesn't give up. The terrier-men are called in and engage in a dig-out. The poor fox, dragged from its hole by a snarling terrier is, if alive, shot and held up as if a trophy...and is then thrown to the hounds. A British tradition...preserving values...This activity is seen as being of worth and merit by David Cameron and Theresa May. I suggest that Lifers don't afford them the opportunity of a free vote on hunting with dogs. If you're going to vote, why not vote for someone else?
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It isn't a class issue, I know plenty of working class people who support and take part in Fox hunting.
It isn't a townie v bumpkin thing as lots of rural people oppose hunting. It just isn't a good idea to make your views too obvious. There are townies who go out to the country to join in. In fact when I lived in se london I had to see off some lads who came on to private land to dig out a foxes earth.
It definitely ain't about vermin control or the huntsmen wouldn't encourage foxes on to land to train their dogs to rip the pups apart and give the hunt some quarry.
If foxes are causing specific issues, which they certainly can, then deal with it humainly.
It's a sick past time that cannot be tolorated in a society that calls itself civilised.
NO to reinstatement.
Fucking sub human race!
I'm no activist or such like, but I can see no reason to bring back fox hunting as it was, basically a pack of dogs chasing a wild animal and then ripping it apart and killing it.
That said I'm all for culling their numbers, sick to death of the family of about 8 that next door but one feed with a couple of whole chickens every day, they've become so tame they'll come in the house if I leave the door open.
controlling fox population ..has to be done
Some people still believe that fawning over the Lord of the Manor will get them somewhere in life.
Everything else in your post is spot on, especially the last line
It's sickens me.
Just ask them to forget the foxes and do their bit for public service by digging a few ditches or layering a few hedges and see how many of them turn out for that.
Lest anyone should think that the hunt ban holds fast, it does not. Some hunts go out during the midweek, hoping to avoid opposition and catch a fox. There's a need for greater enforcement of the law on this issue but the police, for the most part, aren't interested in providing officers....so now, as in the past, it's the hunt sabs that reduce / prevent the maiming and killing.
Please don't believe that hunting is about the 'thrill of the chase'. When an exhausted fox goes to earth, the hunt doesn't give up. The terrier-men are called in and engage in a dig-out. The poor fox, dragged from its hole by a snarling terrier is, if alive, shot and held up as if a trophy...and is then thrown to the hounds.
A British tradition...preserving values...This activity is seen as being of worth and merit by David Cameron and Theresa May. I suggest that Lifers don't afford them the opportunity of a free vote on hunting with dogs. If you're going to vote, why not vote for someone else?
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