Leaving aside the treatment of the foxes, what about the lardarse horse riders treatment of the horses? They stick a lump of metal in their mouths, jerk their heads around, kick them in the sides, whack them to run fast and jump over stuff whilst carrying their obese carcasses. It isn't only the dogs and foxes in thrall to the humans, but horses as well.
Are you saying my wife and I should stop riding then because it's cruel?
So if a creature doesn't fit a narrow definition of beauty it's fair game to kill/hunt?
Not for me. I believe ALL sentient beings should be left to live a long and pain-free life. They're all beautiful in my eyes.
Just out of interest @seth plum and @AddickUpNorth , what's your views on Ticks and Fleas and controlling them on cats and dogs?
Never found any ticks on my cats and they've always been relatively flea-free. I admit to treating them when they have had a few but I can't see my boys being irritated. If it's any consolation I apologise to the fleas and give them a proper send off.
Leaving aside the treatment of the foxes, what about the lardarse horse riders treatment of the horses? They stick a lump of metal in their mouths, jerk their heads around, kick them in the sides, whack them to run fast and jump over stuff whilst carrying their obese carcasses. It isn't only the dogs and foxes in thrall to the humans, but horses as well.
Are you saying my wife and I should stop riding then because it's cruel?
In my opinion it is cruel, maybe I could be persuaded otherwise, but I have listed some of the things that seem cruel to me. In addition there is the concept of 'breaking in' a horse. You and your wife are free to do as you wish however, it is simply me, I don't like to see horses ridden.
So if a creature doesn't fit a narrow definition of beauty it's fair game to kill/hunt?
Not for me. I believe ALL sentient beings should be left to live a long and pain-free life. They're all beautiful in my eyes.
Just out of interest @seth plum and @AddickUpNorth , what's your views on Ticks and Fleas and controlling them on cats and dogs?
Ticks and fleas depend on drinking the blood of the host animal I reckon (could be wrong), that's why dogs and cats do a fair bit of scratching. Do ticks and fleas need 'controlling'?
My lovely lovely lovely horse, running through the fields, where are you going with your fetlocks blowing in the wind? I want to shower you with sugar lumps and ride you over high fences polish your shoes every single day and take you to the horse dentist
Leaving aside the treatment of the foxes, what about the lardarse horse riders treatment of the horses? They stick a lump of metal in their mouths, jerk their heads around, kick them in the sides, whack them to run fast and jump over stuff whilst carrying their obese carcasses. It isn't only the dogs and foxes in thrall to the humans, but horses as well.
Are you saying my wife and I should stop riding then because it's cruel?
In my opinion it is cruel, maybe I could be persuaded otherwise, but I have listed some of the things that seem cruel to me. In addition there is the concept of 'breaking in' a horse. You and your wife are free to do as you wish however, it is simply me, I don't like to see horses ridden.
You obviously know nothing about horses.
Spend a day at your local stables and see what a wonderful time is had by both humans and animals. The bond between horse and owner/rider can be as strong as that with your children.
Of course horse riding is not cruel , there are some things that as humans we should be allowed to its our planet our rules until another species steps up to the plate as top dog , they are all fair game to be honest ,
What's the big deal anyway they don't work they don't pay tax and they shit wherever they want
If they were people I'd say shoot the lazy bstds just because they are animals what's the difference
Of course horse riding is not cruel , there are some things that as humans we should be allowed to its our planet our rules until another species steps up to the plate as top dog , they are all fair game to be honest ,
What's the big deal anyway they don't work they don't pay tax and they shit wherever they want
If they were people I'd say shoot the lazy bstds just because they are animals what's the difference
So if a creature doesn't fit a narrow definition of beauty it's fair game to kill/hunt?
Not for me. I believe ALL sentient beings should be left to live a long and pain-free life. They're all beautiful in my eyes.
Just out of interest @seth plum and @AddickUpNorth , what's your views on Ticks and Fleas and controlling them on cats and dogs?
Never found any ticks on my cats and they've always been relatively flea-free. I admit to treating them when they have had a few but I can't see my boys being irritated. If it's any consolation I apologise to the fleas and give them a proper send off.
I weren't tryina catch you out me old mucker, just genuinely interested
Leaving aside the treatment of the foxes, what about the lardarse horse riders treatment of the horses? They stick a lump of metal in their mouths, jerk their heads around, kick them in the sides, whack them to run fast and jump over stuff whilst carrying their obese carcasses. It isn't only the dogs and foxes in thrall to the humans, but horses as well.
Are you saying my wife and I should stop riding then because it's cruel?
In my opinion it is cruel, maybe I could be persuaded otherwise, but I have listed some of the things that seem cruel to me. In addition there is the concept of 'breaking in' a horse. You and your wife are free to do as you wish however, it is simply me, I don't like to see horses ridden.
You obviously know nothing about horses.
Spend a day at your local stables and see what a wonderful time is had by both humans and animals. The bond between horse and owner/rider can be as strong as that with your children.
When I was in (what is now) year 11 at Brockley County School, Mr Jarman the Head of PE said to me, and about 9 other boys (because we were small) that our PE was going to be horse riding, and it was for the next 3 years. A guy would collect us in a mini bus, and we would be driven to Banstead in Surrey for our horse riding lessons. We learned how to saddle a horse, put the bit and reins on, were schooled going round and round, touching the ears, and the back, learning how to balance, to keep a straight back. We learned the rising trot, did some jumping, went on 'hacks', wore the hats, mucked the creatures out, indeed I was the only boy who didn't fall off during those three years. We learned to face the back of the horse when mounting it, to keep our toes pointed down when doing so, so as to not rub the creatures side or belly. So yes obviously I know nothing about horses. However to me horse riding is cruel, I didn't think about it at the time, but that is what I think now.
There's a good joke in there Seth, but I'll leave it, as you may blow a gasket.
We were riding the horses, they weren't riding us if that's what the joke is supposed to be. The stable girls (who we all wished we could be riding) who looked after us, and often took the lessons used to have pictures of Horses up in their tea room rather than pop stars or anybody else, and would say things like 'look at Buster, isn't he lovely'. Freud would've had a field day, indeed the theory is that horses or androgynous pop stars form a bridge for young girls between sexual attraction for their fathers and than on to sexual attraction for actual partners. I suppose for some, they never get past that stage.
Leaving aside the treatment of the foxes, what about the lardarse horse riders treatment of the horses? They stick a lump of metal in their mouths, jerk their heads around, kick them in the sides, whack them to run fast and jump over stuff whilst carrying their obese carcasses. It isn't only the dogs and foxes in thrall to the humans, but horses as well.
Are you saying my wife and I should stop riding then because it's cruel?
In my opinion it is cruel, maybe I could be persuaded otherwise, but I have listed some of the things that seem cruel to me. In addition there is the concept of 'breaking in' a horse. You and your wife are free to do as you wish however, it is simply me, I don't like to see horses ridden.
You obviously know nothing about horses.
Spend a day at your local stables and see what a wonderful time is had by both humans and animals. The bond between horse and owner/rider can be as strong as that with your children.
When I was in (what is now) year 11 at Brockley County School, Mr Jarman the Head of PE said to me, and about 9 other boys (because we were small) that our PE was going to be horse riding, and it was for the next 3 years. A guy would collect us in a mini bus, and we would be driven to Banstead in Surrey for our horse riding lessons. We learned how to saddle a horse, put the bit and reins on, were schooled going round and round, touching the ears, and the back, learning how to balance, to keep a straight back. We learned the rising trot, did some jumping, went on 'hacks', wore the hats, mucked the creatures out, indeed I was the only boy who didn't fall off during those three years. We learned to face the back of the horse when mounting it, to keep our toes pointed down when doing so, so as to not rub the creatures side or belly. So yes obviously I know nothing about horses. However to me horse riding is cruel, I didn't think about it at the time, but that is what I think now.
Pleased that you've experienced the ownership of horses - all be it in a limited way.
However, if that's your idea of cruelty, I just hope you never watch the news.
Leaving aside the treatment of the foxes, what about the lardarse horse riders treatment of the horses? They stick a lump of metal in their mouths, jerk their heads around, kick them in the sides, whack them to run fast and jump over stuff whilst carrying their obese carcasses. It isn't only the dogs and foxes in thrall to the humans, but horses as well.
Are you saying my wife and I should stop riding then because it's cruel?
In my opinion it is cruel, maybe I could be persuaded otherwise, but I have listed some of the things that seem cruel to me. In addition there is the concept of 'breaking in' a horse. You and your wife are free to do as you wish however, it is simply me, I don't like to see horses ridden.
You obviously know nothing about horses.
Spend a day at your local stables and see what a wonderful time is had by both humans and animals. The bond between horse and owner/rider can be as strong as that with your children.
When I was in (what is now) year 11 at Brockley County School, Mr Jarman the Head of PE said to me, and about 9 other boys (because we were small) that our PE was going to be horse riding, and it was for the next 3 years. A guy would collect us in a mini bus, and we would be driven to Banstead in Surrey for our horse riding lessons. We learned how to saddle a horse, put the bit and reins on, were schooled going round and round, touching the ears, and the back, learning how to balance, to keep a straight back. We learned the rising trot, did some jumping, went on 'hacks', wore the hats, mucked the creatures out, indeed I was the only boy who didn't fall off during those three years. We learned to face the back of the horse when mounting it, to keep our toes pointed down when doing so, so as to not rub the creatures side or belly. So yes obviously I know nothing about horses. However to me horse riding is cruel, I didn't think about it at the time, but that is what I think now.
Pleased that you've experienced the ownership of horses - all be it in a limited way.
However, if that's your idea of cruelty, I just hope you never watch the news.
I didn't own a horse, it was a PE activity organised by my school....many years ago I might add. I am pleased that you are now not invalidating my viewpoint by such a blanket statement such as 'you obviously know nothing about horses'. I don't know why you have moved on to say 'However, if that's your idea of cruelty, I just hope you never watch the news.', I have many ideas as to what is cruel and simply in my opinion horse riding is one of them. I accept I am in a minority, and that you like riding them, but at least I gave some reasons as to why I think it is cruel.
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Not for me. I believe ALL sentient beings should be left to live a long and pain-free life. They're all beautiful in my eyes.
Never found any ticks on my cats and they've always been relatively flea-free. I admit to treating them when they have had a few but I can't see my boys being irritated. If it's any consolation I apologise to the fleas and give them a proper send off.
Just seen this.
You and your wife are free to do as you wish however, it is simply me, I don't like to see horses ridden.
where are you going with your fetlocks blowing in the wind?
I want to shower you with sugar lumps and ride you over high fences
polish your shoes every single day and take you to the horse dentist
Spend a day at your local stables and see what a wonderful time is had by both humans and animals. The bond between horse and owner/rider can be as strong as that with your children.
What's the big deal anyway they don't work they don't pay tax and they shit wherever they want
If they were people I'd say shoot the lazy bstds just because they are animals what's the difference
A guy would collect us in a mini bus, and we would be driven to Banstead in Surrey for our horse riding lessons. We learned how to saddle a horse, put the bit and reins on, were schooled going round and round, touching the ears, and the back, learning how to balance, to keep a straight back. We learned the rising trot, did some jumping, went on 'hacks', wore the hats, mucked the creatures out, indeed I was the only boy who didn't fall off during those three years. We learned to face the back of the horse when mounting it, to keep our toes pointed down when doing so, so as to not rub the creatures side or belly.
So yes obviously I know nothing about horses.
However to me horse riding is cruel, I didn't think about it at the time, but that is what I think now.
There's a good joke in there Seth, but I'll leave it, as you may blow a gasket.
We were riding the horses, they weren't riding us if that's what the joke is supposed to be.
The stable girls (who we all wished we could be riding) who looked after us, and often took the lessons used to have pictures of Horses up in their tea room rather than pop stars or anybody else, and would say things like 'look at Buster, isn't he lovely'.
Freud would've had a field day, indeed the theory is that horses or androgynous pop stars form a bridge for young girls between sexual attraction for their fathers and than on to sexual attraction for actual partners.
I suppose for some, they never get past that stage.
That narrows it down
However, if that's your idea of cruelty, I just hope you never watch the news.
I am pleased that you are now not invalidating my viewpoint by such a blanket statement such as 'you obviously know nothing about horses'.
I don't know why you have moved on to say 'However, if that's your idea of cruelty, I just hope you never watch the news.', I have many ideas as to what is cruel and simply in my opinion horse riding is one of them. I accept I am in a minority, and that you like riding them, but at least I gave some reasons as to why I think it is cruel.