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Cardiff v Charlton 2015/16 Post-match views

Disappointed, if not surprised.

Well, on the bright side, the players certainly looked rested!

We couldn't hold on for le point in the end, unfortunately, and have sunk towards a relegation fight, given how tight the league is at the moment (Cardiff taken all the way up to 6th!).

Over to you.
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  • We would have won today if we had rested Diarra Wednesday night instead of letting him get sent off in a completely meaningless game or we were never going to beat the mighty Cardiff anyway, take your pick which reason why we should all not be worried.
  • Oakster
    Oakster Posts: 6,812
    To be fair we are 3 points ahead of where we were at the same stage in Powell's final season, so the continual revolving door of coaches & players is really paying dividends!

    Thank god for that 98th minute winner against QPR!
  • Peter_G
    Peter_G Posts: 839
    Who can we hope will be returning to fitness for the Fulham game? Diarra only had a one match ban, but how soon will big Mak be available? Others?
  • Conceded 9 goals in our last 3 matches. We have way too many players not up to the task in our squad, our youth chucked in with inexperience in the likes of Bergdich is not a good mix. Roland's go to manouvre will be to sack GL, thinking that because he is over budget the team should be performing really well - but he is blind to the fact football doesn't work like that, he's overpaying for foreign shite and relying too heavily on youth that need to be parented into the team, not chucked in the deep end when the going is tough.

    Predictable once our bubble slowly started bursting and that's what the sad part is.

  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    mmmmeeeeeehhhhh!
  • Or even Hull!
  • Another season of shite beckons.

    Roly, your cunning plan wasn't that cunning after all, it seems.

    Please take your experiment elsewhere.
  • LoOkOuT
    LoOkOuT Posts: 10,857
    Positives:
    We scored! Well done KAG.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    We're lacking leadership,defensively we seem all over the place and going forward we don't seem to have an idea on what to do.

    Luzon hasn't been helped by injuries but as with BP last season I do think we should be doing better than 1 point in 15.
  • Very depressing
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  • Taxi for Guy.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,225
    edited September 2015
    It was clear to those willing to see that the squad was too thin.

    We might have been OK had we not had that run of injuries.

    It now seems that some of those who've come in have yet to adapt to this league.

    Not looking good at all but still early days. Let's see how we do with a full squad and especially Diarra and Mak back.

    Regardless, Luzon now needs to show he can manage a team over a whole season and Roland needs to back him to do that.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,004

    It was clear to those willing to see that the squad was too thin.

    We might have been OK had we not has that run of injuries.

    It now seems that some of those who've come in have yet to adapt to this league.

    Not looking good at all but still early days. Let's see how we do with a full squad and especially Diarra and Mak back.

    Regardless, Luzon now needs to show he can manage a team over a whole season and Roland needs to back him to do that.

    How I see it too.
  • Still think we will be ok but bogey side Fulham up next and we desperately need to grind out a streaky win

    Missing Big Mak at both ends of the pitch and Jackos leadership

    Wish he had played our best side at Palace now..
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548
    Makes the shambles of the team put out at Palace look even worse. Poor all round.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Just got on the coach. DO NOT KID YOURSELVES OVER THAT SCORELINE. More shit IMO. Cardiff could've been 2/3 up by the 15min mark. I cannot forgive the last 15mins either. To be 2-1 down and basically see the game out for Cardiff by passing sideways across our back 2 CBs is unforgivable.

    Luzon's been banging on about how important the first goal is and today we got it. We still got nothing from the game. Everything about us is shot at the moment. We've got no width. We don't press teams. Watt looks disinterested. We give the ball away. We look like we are playing in the RWC rather than the championship. Sideways football at its best.

    I really cannot complain too much as I bother to only go to away games if it's a new ground. Far more fans put more miles in than me so probably have more of a right to be angrier than I, but I've completely turned on them based on that showing.

    We've got no idea how to break teams down. For me that we were still in the game and took the lead has more to do with the opposition today than our game plan. Others are welcome to see it differently and add what they thought were positives. When I've calmed down I will recognise that KAG took his goal well, Moussa got on the bench.

    I'm too angry for all that. We've been let down. The last 15 minutes honestly, I can't put into words how inconceivably bad our attempt to get back in the game was. The players that came over at the end I appreciate were slightly sheepish, but in no uncertain terms I couldn't help telling them to do one.

    Disgraceful. @oohaahmortimer if they continue to play like that then can I be the first to have a stab at your percentages 21st -24th 99%, survival 1%

    I also think something is very wrong behind the scenes with team spirit.
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,738
    edited September 2015
    The team that looked comfortable on the ball, pressed high up the pitch and got deserved wins against Hull and QPR seems to have vanished.

    The injuries are hurting us, but that isn't the sole issue. Our defending from set plays has shoddy for ages and today it seemed every ball banged into the box was won by Cardiff. No surprise that the winning goal came via that route. Are we still zonal marking?

    Confidence seems very low at the moment.

    Lets hope that we can get some of the injured back sooner rather than later.

    The Igor situation has now come to a head and needs sorting asap. If him and Luzon are now beyond redemption we need to move him on and hope that whatever wages it frees up allows us to bring someone else in to replace him.

    I'm not in a panic yet, but am concerned that our next game is against a team who we have a very poor record against.

    For what its worth I really hope Roland keeps his head and doesn't sack Guy. We've seen that he can get us playing expansive attacking football and winning games and he deserves to have the chance to make it work with all of his best players available to him.

    Hopefully we can scramble something against Fulham, get some injuries sorted and the season back on track.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    It is what it is. And what it is ,is not very good. Not too sure what can be done. They've got to get on with it.
    Worries me that Jackson wasn't around today. Players like him are going to be pivotal in this piss poor thin squad.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,004

    Still think we will be ok but bogey side Fulham up next and we desperately need to grind out a streaky win

    Missing Big Mak at both ends of the pitch and Jackos leadership

    Wish he had played our best side at Palace now..

    Indeed
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628

    It was clear to those willing to see that the squad was IS too thin.

    We might have been OK had we not has that IF WE DIDNT HAVE A run of injuries.

    It now seems that some of those who've come in have yet to adapt to this league.ARE TOO YOUNG & HAVE NO EXPERIENCE OF THIS LEAGUE

    Not looking good at all but still early days. Let's see how we do with a full squad and especially Diarra and Mak back.

    Regardless, Luzon now needs to show he can manage a team over a whole season and Roland needs to back him to do that.

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  • Taxi_Lad
    Taxi_Lad Posts: 3,768
    @Athletico Charlton
    Following on from our posts on the the match thread......
    Our injury/ suspension list includes 3 defo starters Hendo Diarra Mak
    The list also robs us of the back up you speak of (ceballos Reza Igor Jacko). I admit the squad if a bit thin and a couple of seasoned loanees would be nice
  • We have an owner with a proven track record of changing his managers/head coaches at all of his clubs as regularly as he changes his underpants. Will be surprised if he lasts the season. That's not me saying I want Guy sacked. He needs to be backed by Roly with more investment in this very thin squad.
  • For me the main worry is the people at the top haven't got a clue how to run the club either on or off the pitch, the club is a shambles.
  • E=mc2
    E=mc2 Posts: 311
    Another defeat and Luzon won't be a part of any kind of experiment! 4 loses and change the coach RD style Is looming - injuries or not.
  • Taxi for Guy.

    Kick up the arse more like

  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    We are Gash.......1 point in 5 games.

    Too many youngsters.
    Too many players whom have no experience of this league
    Solly is not captain material - We need a leader out there
    Squad is too thin


    Until these issues are addressed things aren't going to get better. Bottom 3 once we've played Preston.
  • 6 games without a win, 4 defeats on the trot, 9 conceded in last 3 games, injuries galore.
    Not looking too clever.
    Hopefully there may be 3 teams worse than us?
  • Feel sorry once again for our poor fans who made the effort today
    Well done to you all for your enthusiasm to keep going watching this dross
    Hopefully you will be rewarded soon for your efforts
  • Beckboy
    Beckboy Posts: 1,682
    If I was Guy I would walk away he's being shafted by RD with the lack of squad quality /depth