How about t-shirts made all standing together makes huge banner like Roland out and we Want our Charlton back.
T shirts with big bold individual letters given to people in order next to each other but scattered groups around all the stands.
Bit chilly for T shirts this time of year?
Seriously, I get the idea. Could be tricky getting enough people in a row to agree to put one on. Near me in the East Stand there's a whole batch of people to my left who don't stand up for the protest singing, and to the right is usually deserted.
We have a CARD meeting this week and will be discussing the ideas posted on her or PMd to one of us.
How about t-shirts made all standing together makes huge banner like Roland out and we Want our Charlton back.
T shirts with big bold individual letters given to people in order next to each other but scattered groups around all the stands.
Bit chilly for T shirts this time of year?
Seriously, I get the idea. Could be tricky getting enough people in a row to agree to put one on. Near me in the East Stand there's a whole batch of people to my left who don't stand up for the protest singing, and to the right is usually deserted.
We have a CARD meeting this week and will be discussing the ideas posted on her or PMd to one of us.
They would need to be big enough to put over a jumper or even coat. I think there will be enough people who would participate, especially in north upper.
Absolutely love the stickers, don't suppose you'd know if there's a way I could get my hands on some?
I reckon there's money to be made for the fund out of 'Roland Out' & 'We Want Our Charlton Back' merch. I'd rather spend money on buying a jumper with the 'Roland Out' logo pictured above rather than a new replica shirt for example. Obviously it would take someone who knows what they're doing to organise it, but as I said I reckon a website with that sort of stuff on it would help raise further funds and get the message out further.
Absolutely love the stickers, don't suppose you'd know if there's a way I could get my hands on some?
I reckon there's money to be made for the fund out of 'Roland Out' & 'We Want Our Charlton Back' merch. I'd rather spend money on buying a jumper with the 'Roland Out' logo pictured above rather than a new replica shirt for example. Obviously it would take someone who knows what they're doing to organise it, but as I said I reckon a website with that sort of stuff on it would help raise further funds and get the message out further.
I've got some too if you need more. I've a feeling we might want to do a fresh batch of these before too long.
Merchandising the material sounds good but is also quite daunting in terms of managing the production/distribution/finance aspects. Could be tax implications too if it gets too formal. A few of us are already spending quite a lot of time on all this.
Absolutely love the stickers, don't suppose you'd know if there's a way I could get my hands on some?
I reckon there's money to be made for the fund out of 'Roland Out' & 'We Want Our Charlton Back' merch. I'd rather spend money on buying a jumper with the 'Roland Out' logo pictured above rather than a new replica shirt for example. Obviously it would take someone who knows what they're doing to organise it, but as I said I reckon a website with that sort of stuff on it would help raise further funds and get the message out further.
I've got some too if you need more. I've a feeling we might want to do a fresh batch of these before too long.
Merchandising the material sounds good but is also quite daunting in terms of managing the production/distribution/finance aspects. Could be tax implications too if it gets too formal. A few of us are already spending quite a lot of time on all this.
Thanks. Thought it might be an issue. Cheers for the hard work you're doing already.
My stickers left my coat near the end and can now be found stuck within the ground, hope the cleaners enjoy, will be interesting to see of its still there at the next game.
I'm pretty sure that a license from either the metropolitan police or the local authority is required (1 month at least to obtain) before collections can be taken.
I've only looked at a few sites but they seem pretty clear on this.
We could also consider registering as a charity because then donations get boosted by gift aid.
Both routes require substantially more time and red tape than is currently the case.
Correct Neil. I'm not an expert but would be surprised if what is essentially a pressure group could qualify as a charity. Looking at JustGiving as a payment option, we would have only qualified for the crowd-funding service.
The other problem with cash donations is simply managing the cash. We are just fans really, and we can hardly take buckets of coins and notes into the stadium. If a few fans insisted on giving me a fiver when I was handing out leaflets that would be OK - I would just pay them over to @Curb_It and we would call them Anonymous Donation. But to do it on an organised basis is a big deal.
To register as a charity, there are some reasonably high hurdles that would require a slight reprinting if the funds. Getting Roland out, isn't going to cut it as a charitable statement.
If anyone has any of this spare merchandise they can send me by mail to Sydney Id be happy to pay the postage.If we can get the t shirt idea off the ground it would be good to get fans over here taking photos wearing them in iconic locations such as the Harbour Bridge and Opera House. Failing that if the designers of the various artwork's can pdf me, I'll get a t shirt done over here or maybe a flag.
The Card group are meeting tomorrow and I intend to raise the question of merchandising. If there's a way we can get money for the great work done so far, especially by @Nug, without making it a cottage industry, that would be great. Less formally, the idea of allowing the CARD artwork to be used by Lifers to spread the message is attractive too. Leave it with me.
The Card group are meeting tomorrow and I intend to raise the question of merchandising. If there's a way we can get money for the great work done so far, especially by @Nug, without making it a cottage industry, that would be great. Less formally, the idea of allowing the CARD artwork to be used by Lifers to spread the message is attractive too. Leave it with me.
As an alternative to t-shirts , how about black armbands with the CARD logo and a slogan on them ... Would show we're up for a fight (peacefully of course!) but also link to their use in football - to remember and to show unity...
Could be worn over coats in the winter etc and could be very popular - would imagine their cheap to produce and could charge between £5-£10
while giving out stickers I was offered money for the fund by 1 fan but didn't like to take it - would be good to know what to do in such situations, I told him to go on line to CL, should I have taken the money and passed it on?
while giving out stickers I was offered money for the fund by 1 fan but didn't like to take it - would be good to know what to do in such situations, I told him to go on line to CL, should I have taken the money and passed it on?
Good question. To be honest we hadn't really thought through this possibility. I think your answer was the correct one at the time but for future occasions I think we can ask all those issuing material to accept donations and then either pass to me or Curb_It on the day (problems re where exactly we are at any given time) or pay it in to their own bank accounts and then make a transfer over to the Protest Fund bank account. In such cases we would record the donors as "anonymous" rather than attribute it to the collector - simply so we are able to track how much comes through this route.
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Seriously, I get the idea. Could be tricky getting enough people in a row to agree to put one on. Near me in the East Stand there's a whole batch of people to my left who don't stand up for the protest singing, and to the right is usually deserted.
We have a CARD meeting this week and will be discussing the ideas posted on her or PMd to one of us.
bring your vodka and your charlie
Only joshing, great work everyone.
I reckon there's money to be made for the fund out of 'Roland Out' & 'We Want Our Charlton Back' merch. I'd rather spend money on buying a jumper with the 'Roland Out' logo pictured above rather than a new replica shirt for example. Obviously it would take someone who knows what they're doing to organise it, but as I said I reckon a website with that sort of stuff on it would help raise further funds and get the message out further.
Merchandising the material sounds good but is also quite daunting in terms of managing the production/distribution/finance aspects. Could be tax implications too if it gets too formal. A few of us are already spending quite a lot of time on all this.
and they are right, we won't.
They have seriously underestimated Charlton fans.
Otherwise we have to wait until someone gives us another £1800. Would do it but other demands on funds now.
I've only looked at a few sites but they seem pretty clear on this.
We could also consider registering as a charity because then donations get boosted by gift aid.
Both routes require substantially more time and red tape than is currently the case.
The other problem with cash donations is simply managing the cash. We are just fans really, and we can hardly take buckets of coins and notes into the stadium. If a few fans insisted on giving me a fiver when I was handing out leaflets that would be OK - I would just pay them over to @Curb_It and we would call them Anonymous Donation. But to do it on an organised basis is a big deal.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/what-makes-a-charity-cc4/what-makes-a-charity-cc4#part-3-about-the-descriptions-of-purposes
However under the description of acceptable purposes, a case can be made for:
e) community development of there is a strong community angle to the aims
g) the advancement of amateur sport if there is a strong view that the current regime is hampering amateur sport development in the area.
I think this may be a long shot though.
The Card group are meeting tomorrow and I intend to raise the question of merchandising. If there's a way we can get money for the great work done so far, especially by @Nug, without making it a cottage industry, that would be great. Less formally, the idea of allowing the CARD artwork to be used by Lifers to spread the message is attractive too. Leave it with me.
Could be worn over coats in the winter etc and could be very popular - would imagine their cheap to produce and could charge between £5-£10
This would make for a cracking t-shirt.
Cost £5 and sell for £10, people get a t-shirt and the 'fighting fund' profits.
Maybe produce some lapel badges?
Good question. To be honest we hadn't really thought through this possibility. I think your answer was the correct one at the time but for future occasions I think we can ask all those issuing material to accept donations and then either pass to me or Curb_It on the day (problems re where exactly we are at any given time) or pay it in to their own bank accounts and then make a transfer over to the Protest Fund bank account. In such cases we would record the donors as "anonymous" rather than attribute it to the collector - simply so we are able to track how much comes through this route.