1. Has it completely crossed the line for you where you just want the current owners out and at all reasonable, realistic costs?
2. If you still have a bit of open minded thought left, what could RD and or KM do to make you think, this lot are ok I'm happy with my club continuing with them as owners/primary decision makers?
3. As much as RD or whatever shows contempt for fans as ego sways him, he knows he still needs the fans and for these protests to stop. Something to resolve itself one way or the other where he makes a profit out of charlton and the only likely way that's gana happen is if people at least attend games and fans fully buy back into charlton again. He just thought we were thick I guess and could be taken for a ride.
So for you to stop protesting etc against this sh*t mob...what would it take?
Your chance to spell it in black and white, for them.
Me personally...I just want them to f*ck off. End of. I maybe speaking without enough logic though.
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Katrien categorically. She's a lying stooge, and my dislike of what she is doing goes way beyond loathing.
Roland has money. He could do a complete about face. Pump money on a continual basis into the squad, come to games and show an interest, sack Katrien and the useless footballing affront that is KF, and, very importantly, apologise. But he is a self made millionaire, he won't learn, won't run the club properly, won't show an interest, and will NEVER admit his many mistakes and apologise. So he can bog off too.
They knew how we were feeling after the Luzón appointment. So they bought in Fraeye. That took them over the line, and the 'customers in a restaurant' made it quite clear where they were coming from.
No way back. It's war.
What would it take to to stop protesting against them?
2 x One way Eurostar tickets to Brussels.
Carol can just get an Oyster card and sit on the Circle Line.
No
Back in the real world, none if that is going to happen, so why would I?
He didn't back down with Standard Liege and opted rather to get out.
So no thanks, they have to go.
I still agree with what they originally said they wanted for the club in that first video interview, i.e. that the club would be run to be competitive in the Championship with ambition to get int the premier league with a focus on youth development and being a community based, supporters club.
However, the reality of how they have run the club has not aligned well with that stated aim which is where they have lost me over the last few months, with the misleading 'Interim' appointment of Fraeye being the final straw for me.
Relations between fans and the regime (particularly Meire) have probably reached the point of no return. However, personally, I don't really care that much about Roland or Meire's personality if they can can run the club the way they said they would. There has to be severe doubt that they are capable of doing it, particularly the bits about making it a supporters club, but IF they could change their ways then I'd be willing to forgive and forget.
I'm fine with the concept of selling on our players to help the team and the academy develop and operate, it's a reality of the modern game for a club like us and something we have done to good effect in the past (Lee and Minto's sales helping keep the club afloat and the back to the valley campaign on track, the Bowyer money building Curbs play-off team, the Mills money keeping the team together after relegation and buying Deano, the Jenkinson money helping build CP's promotion team etc etc).
The difference, I believe, between the way we have done things in the past and Roland's master plan is that as well as selling players like Bowyer, we also managed to keep players like Rufus and Newton who became key players in times of on field success , not means to improve the bottom line. I personally found Meire's recent statement about just selling all our players to the Premier League far more disturbing than the relatively harmless comparison between us and cinema goers.
I want us fans to feel involved and wanted by our club and all that stuff does matter but, for me, as a fan living in another country who, even when I was a season ticket holder, follows the club for the football not the off-field politics, I can live with weird shit like having a NHS call centre in the ticket office if the results are going okay and I suspect that is really where they have lost the majority of the protesting fans. The other stuff is, to an extent, window dressing.
If they start to take the football side of things seriously (immediately) then I'm willing to give them more time. By seriously I mean:
- Appoint a manager or head coach properly qualified and experienced to work in the Championship.
- Appoint a proper scouting network employed directly by CAFC.
- Possibly appoint a Director of Football to take overall responsibility for playing performance away from the CEO and Roland.
- Give scouting network, manager/head coach (and DofF) full responsibility for identifying the players they want to sign. The only input from the CEO or owner on transfers should be related to setting budgets, negotiating fees, and agreeing contracts, but it needs to be at the very least a budget realistic for a mid-table Championship side.
- Don't change the manager every 20 games.
- Continue to invest in the academy infrastructure with the intent of producing quality players for Charlton's first team, accepting that some may have to be sold to help balance the books, but that any excess cash from those sales will be put back into the club.
- Ideally get Cat 1 academy status to help protect us from Premier League vultures and assist us in attracting the best young players, but don't go for just the minimum requirements to get Cat 1, aim to be the best academy in the country.
Southampton have shown that there is balance between selling and retaining young players that can help lead to improved performance on the pitch and significant revenue for the club. I think that would be a decent model for us to follow. I have serious doubts that we will ever go that route under Roland's watch though.
Murray potentially could if he walked now or disclosed something in the future that made me sympathetic as to his position. But KM and RD are a stain on the history of OUR great club and insult to its supporters.
As Marjorie said...
That is not impossible but is incredibly unlikely so it would be best for everyone if he sells up (without selling our best players).
The man is a mystery to me. I suppose he is so convinced that he is doing the right thing that he can't see what everyone else - and not just Charlton fans, clearly do. I hope Peter Varney can help us out.
If Katrien is out of her depth, and for me the evidence thus far is that she is, why not bend the ear of Karen Brady ( I can't believe she didn't at the West Ham preseason game) to get some good tips.
Unfortunately there is more chance of me sleeping with Mila Kunis than all that happening.
So, realistically, no. I'm done.
Roland, Katrien and Karel ... it's time to go.