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    rikofold said:

    Leaburn the epitome (I loved him) .

    Suspect Mak is the current day Leaburn?

    Your having a laugh comparing the two

    Firmly in the Leaburn Camp and the plain fact he did it at a higher level

    Ask the pro's who played with Carl and they will tell you how good he was

    Ironic that we would like a striker now who hit the back of the net as often as Carl let alone a Killer/Hunt/Whyte/Mendonca.
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    I don't remember it being that good a game.
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    Sarr will be the one from the current crop
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    Nothing will top Leaburn

    Well, he was tall.
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    edited January 2016
    jay bothroyd and Chris Iwelumo for me
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    Lloyd Doyley. I've seen fights start.
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    The first one of those that I remember was Billy Keirnan.
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    Loved Carl , although he did occasionally look like Bambi on ice, a club legend. For me It has to be super Kevin Lisbie
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    Halix said:

    Kevin Lisbie
    Andy Jones
    Keith Jones
    Jamie Stuart
    Phil Chapple
    Denis Romedahl

    Good list, but anyone who thinks Keith Jones was poor knows fuck all about football.

    Might I suggest John Bumstead and Alan Pardew (as a player) ?
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    edited January 2016



    I think the sort of players you're talking about are often overlooked by many customers because they are performing a role for the team rather than being a flair player going out and expressing themselves...see Keith Jones for example.


    Nail on head.

    Whilst many fans are following the ball and looking out for the flair players, they're rarely going to appreciate those players that hold a team together - and indeed provide the platform that allows those flair players to do their stuff.

    The Kishishevs, Keith Jones and Matty Hollands did the dropping back, keeping the team shape, covering and tracking which allowed those more talented to get forward.

    Years ago, after underdog Southampton had finished 2nd in the top division, their manager Lawrie McMenemy was asked the secret of his success:

    "In every successful team you need 9 virtuoso players", he said, "and 2 roadsweepers".




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    Oggy Red said:



    I think the sort of players you're talking about are often overlooked by many customers because they are performing a role for the team rather than being a flair player going out and expressing themselves...see Keith Jones for example.


    Nail on head.

    Whilst many fans are following the ball and looking out for the flair players, they're rarely going to appreciate those players that hold a team together - and indeed provide the platform that allows those flair players to do their stuff.

    The Kishishevs, Keith Jones and Matty Hollands did the dropping back, keeping the team shape, covering and tracking which allowed those more talented to get forward.

    Years ago, after underdog Southampton had finished 2nd in the top division, their manager Lawrie McMenemy was asked the secret of his success:

    "In every successful team you need 9 virtuoso players", he said, "and 2 roadsweepers".




    Our last three managers got that the wrong way around...
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    Halix said:

    Kevin Lisbie
    Andy Jones
    Keith Jones
    Jamie Stuart
    Phil Chapple
    Denis Romedahl

    Good list, but anyone who thinks Keith Jones was poor knows fuck all about football.

    Might I suggest John Bumstead and Alan Pardew (as a player) ?
    First saw Keith Jones at an away game at Oldham, was always amazed he got so much stick.

    Then again, I always rated Leaburn, Kish, Semedo, Lisbie and co. They may not have been Maradona but they were effective and put in a shift.
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    Darren Ambrose.

    Seem to remember Morts had his detractors back in the day too, especially as a younger player in his first stint.
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    rikofold said:

    Leaburn the epitome (I loved him) .

    Suspect Mak is the current day Leaburn?

    Not fit to tie Carl's boots.

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    Halix said:

    Kevin Lisbie
    Andy Jones
    Keith Jones
    Jamie Stuart
    Phil Chapple
    Denis Romedahl

    That's a great list
    Did anyone rate Jamie Stuart?
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    Holland was an interesting one. I think being a great guy helped his profile as a player. Bar the year when he played a lot on the right when we still had Parker and Jensen , I thought he was exceedingly average . As I say, great guy though .

    I'll add Jason Euell into this; I couldn't look past his poor ball control but many liked him and in fairness he did score a lot of goals
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    Matty Holland was great at clapping.

    Dennis was simply used in the wrong way - Curbs did not play attacking teams by this stage. (Bar the first few games of whatever season it was where him, Bent, Murphy and Smertin were unplayable they were so good)
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    boggzy said:

    Matty Holland was great at clapping.

    Dennis was simply used in the wrong way - Curbs did not play attacking teams by this stage. (Bar the first few games of whatever season it was where him, Bent, Murphy and Smertin were unplayable they were so good)

    Jerome Thomas too, that year
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    Racon, for me a waste of space, for others a misunderstood virtuoso.
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    wmcf123 said:

    Halix said:

    Kevin Lisbie
    Andy Jones
    Keith Jones
    Jamie Stuart
    Phil Chapple
    Denis Romedahl

    That's a great list
    Did anyone rate Jamie Stuart?
    His dealer

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    I always thought Lee Cook had a sweet left foot.
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    Paul Mortimer - Great player but not in everyone's eyes.
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    edited January 2016

    Halix said:

    Kevin Lisbie
    Andy Jones
    Keith Jones
    Jamie Stuart
    Phil Chapple
    Denis Romedahl

    Good list, but anyone who thinks Keith Jones was poor knows fuck all about football.

    I always felt that he did a job, but I always seemed to be surrounded by people saying he only passed sideways.

    Oh and can I add Alan Curbishley (as a player) he always seemed to divide opinion.
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    Dale Stephens
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    Halix said:

    Halix said:

    Kevin Lisbie
    Andy Jones
    Keith Jones
    Jamie Stuart
    Phil Chapple
    Denis Romedahl

    Good list, but anyone who thinks Keith Jones was poor knows fuck all about football.

    I always felt that he did a job, but I always seemed to be surrounded by people saying he only passed sideways.

    Oh and can I add Alan Curbishley (as a player) he always seemed to divide opinion.
    Mind you, a midfielder passing sideways surely unleashes wingers in an effort to bypass the opposing team's defences...

    I'm sure some of us have been complaining about a lack of decent attacking play this season. A Keith Jones Mk II might be just what we need. Can anyone think of a half-decent Chelsea midfielder being underused at the mo?

    Can I add, after his wise words last night, Chris Iwelumo (I always thought he was good but there were some vocally against)?
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    Steve White.He could be absolute tosh one week and smack in a couple of goals the next.
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    I seem to remember a lot of people moaning about Andy Hunt, bizarrely.
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    WSS said:

    I seem to remember a lot of people moaning about Andy Hunt, bizarrely.

    to be fair i didn't think much of him in his first season with us. Then again i was about 8 years old and thought "strikers were there to score goals".
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