That's almost funny it's so mad. So he's protecting us from mega bucks Chinese investors because they're 'foreigners' and don't understand us!?
He's treading on very thin ice, there. Some people might think his comments about Chinese and Arab owners were racist, but we know by now that a thinly-veiled superiority complex is an established feature of the regime.
Begs the question who selected the head coaches, if he left the management of the club to KM, or is it just another lie?
Don't think it's even worth analysing it that closely. RD and KM contradict each other all the time - the truth is presumably somewhere halfway between Roland's lies and Katrien's lies.
I suspect Katrien was given responsibility for recruiting coaches, with assistance from Roland, probably something like this:
RD: Katrien, I'm giving you full responsibility for selecting our new head coach. Pick anyone you like from the following shortlist -
1. Karel Fraeye 2. Mr K Fraeye 3. Fraeye K, Esq
What's for sure is that Katrien had zero input on appointing Bob Peeters as manager. She was literally in tears when she was told it was happening. But, with regards to the idea to appoint the Upjest guy as our manager a month ago, I suspect (and this is simply a guess) that she actually played a big part in ensuring that it didn't happen and that Riga came back.
Rob62, How do you know Meire was in tears, at Peeters being appointed ?
So RD understands that the FFP change of rules, has screwed him and we can't compete in The Championship. He doesn't want to lose money, but this is inevitable, he knows that. He knows his plan cannot work.
SO WHY ISN'T HE SELLING UP ?
Perhaps he will, but to say so will reduce the price.
but in the "interview" with the OS he says (to paraphrase) 'I was involved (with team selection) early on but not any more I'm too busy.'
This poor crazed old sod now can't remember what he himself said less than 2 weeks ago.
To be generous, RD might have accepted that dumping any old crock or lackey with a pair of football boots into Sparrows Lane because the then manager needed more players wasn't successful but RD as sure as shit ain't gonna accept any blame for Pete Parcelshelf, Loic NoGo, Christoph NoPoint, or the clown "goalie" being absolutely no effing use to Chris Powell or the team. He sent players to CP when CP needed more players and in RD's mind the fact that they were all shit is irrelevant and CP was expected to pipe down, get on with it and improve performances without improved resources. The absence of logic, thought or cohesion in any of that is to be overlooked because it's Roland's party and we can cry all if we like.
I'm sure his words will have been "misinterpreted" by CP at the time and by us now. Every new 'announcement', interview, missive, noise emanating from the entity currently trading as CAFC just serves to gold plate and floodlight the inexcapable fact that it is being run by a bunch of witless fucktards with no personal grace or basic honesty.
Sticking it out isn't even a face saving exercise for the septuagenarian shitforbrains, he has no face to save with the Addickted nor the UK press. The mainstream press coverage of Charlton has mushroomed in but a few weeks. Not because of a Leicester City style phenomenon but because Chartlon is run by a parody of a business man. When the Grauniad pubishes an article ridiculing a football chairman he really must be ludicrous.
Just our luck those pricks at S0"th€@st€rn were running something like a train service the day the belgian barnpot came to Charlton. If they had been plumbing their usual depths he could have ended up unannounced at Slade Green depot abandoned for hours in a siding. Our local TOC usually occupy a spot beneath contempt for me but I could happily have forgiven them for losing the preposterous old plutoprat.
I just hope the graceless, witless old cunt sells up or drops dead before my blood pressure goes critical. I'll watch very little of this "Charlton" in the 3rd division, nothing lower.
Having said that, I agree with him on FFP. It's a disaster and the FL should not have changed the goalposts, especially in a way that encourages irresponsible spending.
but in the "interview" with the OS he says (to paraphrase) 'I was involved (with team selection) early on but not any more I'm too busy.'
This poor crazed old sod now can't remember what he himself said less than 2 weeks ago.
To be generous, RD might have accepted that dumping any old crock or lackey with a pair of football boots into Sparrows Lane because the then manager needed more players wasn't successful but RD as sure as shit ain't gonna accept any blame for Pete Parcelshelf, Loic NoGo, Christoph NoPoint, or the clown "goalie" being absolutely no effing use to Chris Powell or the team. He sent players to CP when CP needed more players and in RD's mind the fact that they were all shit is irrelevant and CP was expected to pipe down, get on with it and improve performances without improved resources. The absence of logic, thought or cohesion in any of that is to be overlooked because it's Roland's party and we can cry all if we like.
I'm sure his words will have been "misinterpreted" by CP at the time and by us now. Every new 'announcement', interview, missive, noise emanating from the entity currently trading as CAFC just serves to gold plate and floodlight the inexcapable fact that it is being run by a bunch of witless fucktards with no personal grace or basic honesty.
Sticking it out isn't even a face saving exercise for the septuagenarian shitforbrains, he has no face to save with the Addickted nor the UK press. The mainstream press coverage of Charlton has mushroomed in but a few weeks. Not because of a Leicester City style phenomenon but because Chartlon is run by a parody of a business man. When the Grauniad pubishes an article ridiculing a football chairman he really must be ludicrous.
Just our luck those pricks at S0"th€@st€rn were running something like a train service the day the belgian barnpot came to Charlton. If they had been plumbing their usual depths he could have ended up unannounced at Slade Green depot abandoned for hours in a siding. Our local TOC usually occupy a spot beneath contempt for me but I could happily have forgiven them for losing the preposterous old plutoprat.
I just hope the graceless, witless old cunt sells up or drops dead before my blood pressure goes critical. I'll watch very little of this "Charlton" in the 3rd division, nothing lower.
Keep smilin'
Stop fannying about and tell us how you really feel...
Been out, but back home and I picked up on this bit (referenced above too):
“What will finally happen to the Championship is you will find most of the time, it is owners that are maybe Chinese or foreign. Is that a good evolution? I don’t know. I’m not so sure."
Chinese or foreign?
What kind of world view does that reveal? We have presumably the British, and then the near neighbours like, ahem, Belgium. I imagine this rolls out to include the rest of Northern Europe who are somehow homogeneous (although Roland, in most of Northern Europe people assume a football club exists to try to win matches...unlike in parts of Belgium!). He may feel more distanced from Southern Europe, not a lot though...and America too. Then there is the rest of 'foreign'. Africa? The Middle East? The Asian Sub-Continent and so on, most of humanity is encompassed except...
Except
....the Chinese, who presumably exist somewhere between Earth and Aliens from Alpha Centurai.
It's like he views the Chinese as a vast, single, very 'other' entity, who ought to be described in some sort of sweeping statement kind of way. Like Martians.
I am not at all at ease with what is revealed here about Roland's racial categorizing. China is vast, and contains within it separate and diverse ethnicities and cultures. However more important than that, China, like everywhere else is also made up of individuals.
And some of those individuals are, yes, as nutty as Roland, but some others of those individuals would be far far better football club owners than Roland.
Chinese or foreign indeed.
How about European or Foreign Roland? Because there are plenty of Chinese people, far cleverer than your mate Alan Turing, gazing over here and shaking their head at the alien behaviour of a European football club owner in amazed disbelief.
FFP is always going to be a disaster. Of course it is. Money makes the world spin round, people will be scaring them away from any sanctions left right and centre.
The game is also changing and it won't fit with Roland's dream, he's a few years too late on his thinking. Lower league teams will consistently be purchased by rich men and this will even further toughen the competition, while Roland tries to make a profit selling players just as we see them growing as a player. Lots of Middle-East consortiums and soon to be China will be investing in football and all that comes with it. It's not going to work for RD, and the more chance it has of working, the lower league the club will be in and the lesser the attendances or general care anyone will have for what he is doing to our great club.
The positive is, the man is 69..... can't be too many years till the bucket is kicked. :- )
The thing about excluding the Chinese from "foreign" - could this be a reference to the 'knight Dragon' firm who are developing Greenwich peninsular? Long way off but I guess it makes sense...
England's weakening of FFP is a disaster, along with the finances of the whole Football League, but the stupid vain idiot should have known better than to trust the cowards who run the English game to be as good as their word. And as has wisely been pointed out, by taking us to the bottom of the league, he is negotiating from the weakest position of all. It's a shame Richard Cawley didn't press him further on his "investment"/loading the club with debt, but hey-ho.
To claim that Belgian and English football culture is the same just shows how little he knows - we might only be 250 miles and a nice couple of hours on the Eurostar apart, but our football culture is very different from anywhere else (which is why it fascinates so many around the globe). That's not the bragging of some faded old flag-waver - it's simply different in a country of 100+ professional clubs with 14 in the capital city alone.
In his head, there's a parallel Charlton Athletic to the one most of us know. In his head, we are a small side, with a small catchment area, with fans yearning to be able to spend money on piss-weak overpriced pints of Fosters in the ground after the match because he believes there is no community surrounding the club. When in reality, we're a medium-sides could-be-bigger club, with a catchment area that's more regional than London-based, with many fans too busy negotiating failing rail services or clogged up roads to even think about stopping for an overpriced pint of piss inside the club.
"What is very important is the element of the youngsters and good football" - that's just weird. What's important is winning. If you won't win, you don't get to bring youngsters through. And we're not playing good football. As with the sudden rediscovery that you can give free tickets to kids (what on earth did he think we were doing before?) he's trying to paint himself as some kind of philanthropic investor with the healthy well-being of SE London youth at heart . But as any reader of Greenwich Time will know, the most cowardly politicians will surround themselves with kids to deflect attention from their lies and failures. I suspect this is going to be an ongoing theme of this regime.
Roland listen please your plan doesn't work and will not work. Since the beginning before the Premier League ,rich men bought football clubs as playthings,ego enhancers ,cash washers etc etc etc... you can and never have been able to break even unless you are a top successful(winning trophies regularly ) club,and even then it isn't a given. So there are no Rich Englishmen to buy Clubs? Maybe they are less stupid than you Roland,but three have been and made good money by gambling and being successful, Ken Bates,Alan Sugar,Freddie Shepherd, and currently Jeremy Peace at W.B.A and I hate to say it but until recently Steve Parish at Palace. What's so bad about Arabs and Chinese or are you in a time warp,scarred by history and all thats great about Belgium!, Arabs done pretty good for Man City,may not be Chinese but Sheff Wed doing ok with Asian owners,Chelsea ain't done bad with a Russian or Bournemouth. Man Utd and Liverpool got rich Americans as does Arsenal as well as a Russian. Oh lets not forget those aliens at Southampton from Switzerland haha. We had a whole Board full of Englishmen from 1995 until 2010 when they all left it to an Englishman,your Chairman, they invested more than you collectively £30mn in Equity and around £25mn in Loans,still outstanding some of them so you could buy the club a lot cheaper .But they all realised you can't run on a break even basis and world was global place with Billionaires(of which you are not one) who wanted to boost their egos with an English Club, so they were smart and said we can't make this work and stopped investing,well all except one. So If I was you Roland I would pick up the phone and get Mr Varney on the line and find out if he has that Billionaire that we all crave,we want to watch a team with a winning spirit,ambition and yes academy players,but when they are ready,not thrown in deep end. Your plan will only cause you to lose all your money,if you go down you will bleed cash at a head spinning rate as crowds drop to 5,000 maximum and T.V Money drops by £10mn.
I'm encouraged by Roland's (very belated) observations on FFP, as - on one reading - they could be construed as him laying the ground for his exit down the line (hopefully, for us, not too far down the line). What is potentially significant is the timing of his comments - why now, when the decisive vote took place in November, 2014 ? In order to save face, Roland can then assert that the reason his 'project' failed was the idiocy of the other Championship clubs in abandoning the previous FFP limits.
Incidentally, he is surely taking the piss when he talks about him coming from a similar culture - in football terms, the bloke is from another galaxy ! Perhaps he could do all of us a favour and shuffle off back there.
“I never read that he [Powell] said that,” responded Duchatelet. “But if he did, it is certainly wrong.
First line and a lie
“I did discuss on occasions about players - there were also problems at the time with key ones who wanted to leave, like Yann Kermorgant.
Another lie. I believe Powell over RD any day, and Powell said Yann was having to hold on for the right deal. We still don't know to this day if the deal tabled to Yann was good enough or acceptable to him to stay. But what we do know is he wanted to stay.
This guy is just a tosser, through and through.
We all know he never told Powell to pick players Alex Dyer told us that after Powell left ...... Yann chose the money instead of signing the new deal , think what people need to remember is the Bournemouth deal was on the table before RD took over ....as Powell said the old owners had already said they were not going to offer Yann or Stephens new deals
Be interesting next week if he gets treated like Parker will do tomorrow ??
Alex Dyer was still an employee of the club at the time so would have toed the company line.
“I never read that he [Powell] said that,” responded Duchatelet. “But if he did, it is certainly wrong.
First line and a lie
“I did discuss on occasions about players - there were also problems at the time with key ones who wanted to leave, like Yann Kermorgant.
Another lie. I believe Powell over RD any day, and Powell said Yann was having to hold on for the right deal. We still don't know to this day if the deal tabled to Yann was good enough or acceptable to him to stay. But what we do know is he wanted to stay.
This guy is just a tosser, through and through.
We all know he never told Powell to pick players Alex Dyer told us that after Powell left ...... Yann chose the money instead of signing the new deal , think what people need to remember is the Bournemouth deal was on the table before RD took over ....as Powell said the old owners had already said they were not going to offer Yann or Stephens new deals
Be interesting next week if he gets treated like Parker will do tomorrow ??
Alex Dyer was still an employee of the club at the time so would have toed the company line.
“I never read that he [Powell] said that,” responded Duchatelet. “But if he did, it is certainly wrong.
First line and a lie
“I did discuss on occasions about players - there were also problems at the time with key ones who wanted to leave, like Yann Kermorgant.
Another lie. I believe Powell over RD any day, and Powell said Yann was having to hold on for the right deal. We still don't know to this day if the deal tabled to Yann was good enough or acceptable to him to stay. But what we do know is he wanted to stay.
This guy is just a tosser, through and through.
We all know he never told Powell to pick players Alex Dyer told us that after Powell left ...... Yann chose the money instead of signing the new deal , think what people need to remember is the Bournemouth deal was on the table before RD took over ....as Powell said the old owners had already said they were not going to offer Yann or Stephens new deals
Be interesting next week if he gets treated like Parker will do tomorrow ??
Alex Dyer was still an employee of the club at the time so would have toed the company line.
“I never read that he [Powell] said that,” responded Duchatelet. “But if he did, it is certainly wrong.
First line and a lie
“I did discuss on occasions about players - there were also problems at the time with key ones who wanted to leave, like Yann Kermorgant.
Another lie. I believe Powell over RD any day, and Powell said Yann was having to hold on for the right deal. We still don't know to this day if the deal tabled to Yann was good enough or acceptable to him to stay. But what we do know is he wanted to stay.
This guy is just a tosser, through and through.
We all know he never told Powell to pick players Alex Dyer told us that after Powell left ...... Yann chose the money instead of signing the new deal , think what people need to remember is the Bournemouth deal was on the table before RD took over ....as Powell said the old owners had already said they were not going to offer Yann or Stephens new deals
Be interesting next week if he gets treated like Parker will do tomorrow ??
Alex Dyer was still an employee of the club at the time so would have toed the company line.
Yet another pointer to things being out of control at the club, with the news that Bloomy is leaving to go to Forest, its another backroom person that has jumped ship!! The list is growing and they are clearly going for a reason and I would suggest that reason is RD. Perhaps he who speaks with a forked tongue, meddles in more than just team matters. Another piece of cost cutting for RD, and I'm telling you now if we go down, it'll be years before we come back, because if he doesn't change his tack re FFP, then it'll be more of the same in League one, except this time next season we will be fighting relegation to League 2.
As for the 'picking the team' thing; which of us who worked in the corporate world did not suddenly find themselves with a new boss, one who had very definite ideas that he or she was determined to implement? You then came under great pressure to be positive about these great new ideas, even if you had misgivings. Flag up doubts, and you would be labelled as a negative influence in various guises. I am sure this is what happened here, not least because RM indicated as much at the time. Technically, legally, RD may be right. Any emails may not say exactly "play Thuram" or whatever. But they may well say something like "I don't understand why you don't play Thuram". In terms of the pressure, it amounts to the same thing, and SCP was clearly the type who was going to fight his corner on principle. It's a fight you always lose. And the real losers are us.
I think you want to believe this because it allows you to persist with your belief that Richard Murray is an honest broker in all this. In fact, I suspect Murray has persuaded himself that this is what happened.
Let's be clear then - Duchatelet brought in players behind Powell's back and made clear he expected them to play. Thuram and Nego are two examples. He made clear he did not rate Kermorgant and Hamer very early on. His interference in team selection went well beyond the views that had been expressed by Jimenez, who was the very definition of an opinionated owner. It was not in any way a normal situation.
Rick for Christ sake don't jump on me when there is the slightest whiff, on a half reading of a post, that I may have departed from a tightly scripted line that you want everyone to adhere to on pain of death or at least banishment.
What part of
In terms of the pressure, it amounts to the same thing, and SCP was clearly the type who was going to fight his corner on principle. did you not understand?
I 100% believe that RD unacceptably interfered with team selection (and certainly with squad recruitment, which is just as bad) and that if I was in SCP's shoes I would have resisted. The point remains that the employee never wins, and I know this well because I've been in SCP's shoes and as it happens my "boss" was Belgian too. And time has shown that I was right, as SCP was. But it was inevitable that we would both go.
It therefore does not really matter if there is a nuanced difference in what the emails say, as I suggest. And the last thing anyone should be tempted to do is persuade SCP to release the emails just to make the point, as to do so will damage his chances of future employment (look at Curbs after his action for constructive dismissal). There is no material difference between us on this point so, FFS let's not ruck on here about nothing.
@i_b_b_o_r_g and the rest of us neanderthals who enjoy the argument thread would like a ruck about nothing
As for the 'picking the team' thing; which of us who worked in the corporate world did not suddenly find themselves with a new boss, one who had very definite ideas that he or she was determined to implement? You then came under great pressure to be positive about these great new ideas, even if you had misgivings. Flag up doubts, and you would be labelled as a negative influence in various guises. I am sure this is what happened here, not least because RM indicated as much at the time. Technically, legally, RD may be right. Any emails may not say exactly "play Thuram" or whatever. But they may well say something like "I don't understand why you don't play Thuram". In terms of the pressure, it amounts to the same thing, and SCP was clearly the type who was going to fight his corner on principle. It's a fight you always lose. And the real losers are us.
I think you want to believe this because it allows you to persist with your belief that Richard Murray is an honest broker in all this. In fact, I suspect Murray has persuaded himself that this is what happened.
Let's be clear then - Duchatelet brought in players behind Powell's back and made clear he expected them to play. Thuram and Nego are two examples. He made clear he did not rate Kermorgant and Hamer very early on. His interference in team selection went well beyond the views that had been expressed by Jimenez, who was the very definition of an opinionated owner. It was not in any way a normal situation.
Rick for Christ sake don't jump on me when there is the slightest whiff, on a half reading of a post, that I may have departed from a tightly scripted line that you want everyone to adhere to on pain of death or at least banishment.
What part of
In terms of the pressure, it amounts to the same thing, and SCP was clearly the type who was going to fight his corner on principle. did you not understand?
I 100% believe that RD unacceptably interfered with team selection (and certainly with squad recruitment, which is just as bad) and that if I was in SCP's shoes I would have resisted. The point remains that the employee never wins, and I know this well because I've been in SCP's shoes and as it happens my "boss" was Belgian too. And time has shown that I was right, as SCP was. But it was inevitable that we would both go.
It therefore does not really matter if there is a nuanced difference in what the emails say, as I suggest. And the last thing anyone should be tempted to do is persuade SCP to release the emails just to make the point, as to do so will damage his chances of future employment (look at Curbs after his action for constructive dismissal). There is no material difference between us on this point so, FFS let's not ruck on here about nothing.
@i_b_b_o_r_g and the rest of us neanderthals who enjoy the argument thread would like a ruck about nothing
“I never read that he [Powell] said that,” responded Duchatelet. “But if he did, it is certainly wrong.
First line and a lie
“I did discuss on occasions about players - there were also problems at the time with key ones who wanted to leave, like Yann Kermorgant.
Another lie. I believe Powell over RD any day, and Powell said Yann was having to hold on for the right deal. We still don't know to this day if the deal tabled to Yann was good enough or acceptable to him to stay. But what we do know is he wanted to stay.
This guy is just a tosser, through and through.
We all know he never told Powell to pick players Alex Dyer told us that after Powell left ...... Yann chose the money instead of signing the new deal , think what people need to remember is the Bournemouth deal was on the table before RD took over ....as Powell said the old owners had already said they were not going to offer Yann or Stephens new deals
Be interesting next week if he gets treated like Parker will do tomorrow ??
Alex Dyer was still an employee of the club at the time so would have toed the company line.
Did he lie ?
Nope. Read the article.
Which one
The one with a link to it a few pages back
I don't doubt you're sitting in front of a laptop. Link me up....
“I never read that he [Powell] said that,” responded Duchatelet. “But if he did, it is certainly wrong.
First line and a lie
“I did discuss on occasions about players - there were also problems at the time with key ones who wanted to leave, like Yann Kermorgant.
Another lie. I believe Powell over RD any day, and Powell said Yann was having to hold on for the right deal. We still don't know to this day if the deal tabled to Yann was good enough or acceptable to him to stay. But what we do know is he wanted to stay.
This guy is just a tosser, through and through.
We all know he never told Powell to pick players Alex Dyer told us that after Powell left ...... Yann chose the money instead of signing the new deal , think what people need to remember is the Bournemouth deal was on the table before RD took over ....as Powell said the old owners had already said they were not going to offer Yann or Stephens new deals
Be interesting next week if he gets treated like Parker will do tomorrow ??
Alex Dyer was still an employee of the club at the time so would have toed the company line.
Did he lie ?
Nope. Read the article.
Which one
The one with a link to it a few pages back
I don't doubt you're sitting in front of a laptop. Link me up....
^ If you didnt read why Tony Watt left charlton. All behind the scenes etc interesting.
RD and his crazy ideas.
Im not even going to bother with the Powell stuff, that was simply just a load of gibberish and lies.
Really and truly, FFP is a good thing and if every club had to abide by it then it might be interesting and or more competitive (but maybe boring)
The problem is spending the money wisely and in the right areas. (directly related to the football) We are simply a shambles at that...so in the end FFP, whether in our favor or not, just becomes irrelevant. He wont stop going on about investment on the bloody pitch and stadium etc. Look at the league table, its time to stop making a prat of yourself now and get over that. Arguing these points and how terrible Charlton were before you bought us and how you pimped us up....no one cares and you are a fool for repeatedly bringing it up, especially at present.
“The main goal is that the fans and people see this as a place where they can have a great time - meet friends, enjoy the game, watch good football and see youngsters perform well.
“The question is what kind of football do you need? I think at the minimum Championship level. That’s what we definitely need.
“Then we have to see what will happen with this non-fair financial rules we have in the Championship and whether they will change or not. I hope they will, because it is a disaster for English football.
Im gana take what he says here at face value.
1st Sentence. The MAIN GOAL.....is just awful, the club has been going since 1905 it has history and is not something new, you cannot change it. Stop trying to outline reasons why people go to a football match its not going to differ in comparison to what it is now, why would it? Im pretty sure people already go charlton, meet friends and attempt to enjoy themselves etc. If that is the MAIN goal, something that already exists, then wow. Why people go football matches? Its f*cking obvious, isnt it... What do you think has been the point of fans going Charlton? In its most simpliest form they usually want to see the team beat other teams and have success... which you don't understand or refuse to accept. Do you know what competition is Roland...do you know what it means to be competitive and be able to say "We are the best". Everyone strives for that and if there is no hope, even if the tiniest smallest percentage in that ever happening, then give up now. He doesn't want people that attend charlton to be passionate fans. He wants that side of it wiped out. So sad.
A disaster for English football? You have only unsuccessfully spent 2 years being involved with English football and you don't even watch the games. Your opinion on it and how bad it might get, is irrelevant, and borderline nothing to do with you.
f*ck off you old c*nt
Even in saying that, this FFP interview has probably been Rolands best so far. The dickhead.
^ If you didnt read why Tony Watt left charlton. All behind the scenes etc interesting.
RD and his crazy ideas.
Im not even going to bother with the Powell stuff, that was simply just a load of gibberish and lies.
Really and truly, FFP is a good thing and if every club had to abide by it then it might be interesting and or more competitive (but maybe boring)
The problem is spending the money wisely and in the right areas. (directly related to the football) We are simply a shambles at that...so in the end FFP, whether in our favor or not, just becomes irrelevant. He wont stop going on about investment on the bloody pitch and stadium etc. Look at the league table, its time to stop making a prat of yourself now and get over that. Arguing these points and how terrible Charlton were before you bought us and how you pimped us up....no one cares and you are a fool for repeatedly bringing it up, especially at present.
“The main goal is that the fans and people see this as a place where they can have a great time - meet friends, enjoy the game, watch good football and see youngsters perform well.
“The question is what kind of football do you need? I think at the minimum Championship level. That’s what we definitely need.
“Then we have to see what will happen with this non-fair financial rules we have in the Championship and whether they will change or not. I hope they will, because it is a disaster for English football.
Im gana take what he says here at face value.
1st Sentence. The MAIN GOAL.....is just awful, the club has been going since 1905 it has history and is not something new, you cannot change it. Stop trying to outline reasons why people go to a football match its not going to differ in comparison to what it is now, why would it? Im pretty sure people already go charlton, meet friends and attempt to enjoy themselves etc. If that is the MAIN goal, something that already exists, then wow. Why people go football matches? Its f*cking obvious, isnt it... What do you think has been the point of fans going Charlton? In its most simpliest form they usually want to see the team beat other teams and have success... which you don't understand or refuse to accept. Do you know what competition is Roland...do you know what it means to be competitive and be able to say "We are the best". Everyone strives for that and if there is no hope, even if the tiniest smallest percentage in that ever happening, then give up now. He doesn't want people that attend charlton to be passionate fans. He wants that side of it wiped out. So sad.
A disaster for English football? You have only unsuccessfully spent 2 years being involved with English football and you don't even watch the games. Your opinion on it and how bad it might get, is irrelevant, and borderline nothing to do with you.
f*ck off you old c*nt
Even in saying that, this FFP interview has probably been Rolands best so far. The dickhead.
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He doesn't want to lose money, but this is inevitable, he knows that.
He knows his plan cannot work.
SO WHY ISN'T HE SELLING UP ?
Perhaps he will, but to say so will reduce the price.
There you go it's all Pinnochio's and Dick head Murray's fault.
This poor crazed old sod now can't remember what he himself said less than 2 weeks ago.
To be generous, RD might have accepted that dumping any old crock or lackey with a pair of football boots into Sparrows Lane because the then manager needed more players wasn't successful but RD as sure as shit ain't gonna accept any blame for Pete Parcelshelf, Loic NoGo, Christoph NoPoint, or the clown "goalie" being absolutely no effing use to Chris Powell or the team. He sent players to CP when CP needed more players and in RD's mind the fact that they were all shit is irrelevant and CP was expected to pipe down, get on with it and improve performances without improved resources. The absence of logic, thought or cohesion in any of that is to be overlooked because it's Roland's party and we can cry all if we like.
I'm sure his words will have been "misinterpreted" by CP at the time and by us now. Every new 'announcement', interview, missive, noise emanating from the entity currently trading as CAFC just serves to gold plate and floodlight the inexcapable fact that it is being run by a bunch of witless fucktards with no personal grace or basic honesty.
Sticking it out isn't even a face saving exercise for the septuagenarian shitforbrains, he has no face to save with the Addickted nor the UK press. The mainstream press coverage of Charlton has mushroomed in but a few weeks. Not because of a Leicester City style phenomenon but because Chartlon is run by a parody of a business man. When the Grauniad pubishes an article ridiculing a football chairman he really must be ludicrous.
Just our luck those pricks at S0"th€@st€rn were running something like a train service the day the belgian barnpot came to Charlton. If they had been plumbing their usual depths he could have ended up unannounced at Slade Green depot abandoned for hours in a siding. Our local TOC usually occupy a spot beneath contempt for me but I could happily have forgiven them for losing the preposterous old plutoprat.
I just hope the graceless, witless old cunt sells up or drops dead before my blood pressure goes critical. I'll watch very little of this "Charlton" in the 3rd division, nothing lower.
Keep smilin'
Having said that, I agree with him on FFP. It's a disaster and the FL should not have changed the goalposts, especially in a way that encourages irresponsible spending.
“What will finally happen to the Championship is you will find most of the time, it is owners that are maybe Chinese or foreign. Is that a good evolution? I don’t know. I’m not so sure."
Chinese or foreign?
What kind of world view does that reveal? We have presumably the British, and then the near neighbours like, ahem, Belgium. I imagine this rolls out to include the rest of Northern Europe who are somehow homogeneous (although Roland, in most of Northern Europe people assume a football club exists to try to win matches...unlike in parts of Belgium!).
He may feel more distanced from Southern Europe, not a lot though...and America too.
Then there is the rest of 'foreign'. Africa? The Middle East? The Asian Sub-Continent and so on, most of humanity is encompassed except...
Except
....the Chinese, who presumably exist somewhere between Earth and Aliens from Alpha Centurai.
It's like he views the Chinese as a vast, single, very 'other' entity, who ought to be described in some sort of sweeping statement kind of way. Like Martians.
I am not at all at ease with what is revealed here about Roland's racial categorizing. China is vast, and contains within it separate and diverse ethnicities and cultures. However more important than that, China, like everywhere else is also made up of individuals.
And some of those individuals are, yes, as nutty as Roland, but some others of those individuals would be far far better football club owners than Roland.
Chinese or foreign indeed.
How about European or Foreign Roland? Because there are plenty of Chinese people, far cleverer than your mate Alan Turing, gazing over here and shaking their head at the alien behaviour of a European football club owner in amazed disbelief.
The game is also changing and it won't fit with Roland's dream, he's a few years too late on his thinking. Lower league teams will consistently be purchased by rich men and this will even further toughen the competition, while Roland tries to make a profit selling players just as we see them growing as a player. Lots of Middle-East consortiums and soon to be China will be investing in football and all that comes with it. It's not going to work for RD, and the more chance it has of working, the lower league the club will be in and the lesser the attendances or general care anyone will have for what he is doing to our great club.
The positive is, the man is 69..... can't be too many years till the bucket is kicked. :- )
Long way off but I guess it makes sense...
To claim that Belgian and English football culture is the same just shows how little he knows - we might only be 250 miles and a nice couple of hours on the Eurostar apart, but our football culture is very different from anywhere else (which is why it fascinates so many around the globe). That's not the bragging of some faded old flag-waver - it's simply different in a country of 100+ professional clubs with 14 in the capital city alone.
In his head, there's a parallel Charlton Athletic to the one most of us know. In his head, we are a small side, with a small catchment area, with fans yearning to be able to spend money on piss-weak overpriced pints of Fosters in the ground after the match because he believes there is no community surrounding the club. When in reality, we're a medium-sides could-be-bigger club, with a catchment area that's more regional than London-based, with many fans too busy negotiating failing rail services or clogged up roads to even think about stopping for an overpriced pint of piss inside the club.
"What is very important is the element of the youngsters and good football" - that's just weird. What's important is winning. If you won't win, you don't get to bring youngsters through. And we're not playing good football. As with the sudden rediscovery that you can give free tickets to kids (what on earth did he think we were doing before?) he's trying to paint himself as some kind of philanthropic investor with the healthy well-being of SE London youth at heart . But as any reader of Greenwich Time will know, the most cowardly politicians will surround themselves with kids to deflect attention from their lies and failures. I suspect this is going to be an ongoing theme of this regime.
Since the beginning before the Premier League ,rich men bought football clubs as playthings,ego enhancers ,cash washers etc etc etc... you can and never have been able to break even unless you are a top successful(winning trophies regularly ) club,and even then it isn't a given.
So there are no Rich Englishmen to buy Clubs? Maybe they are less stupid than you Roland,but three have been and made good money by gambling and being successful, Ken Bates,Alan Sugar,Freddie Shepherd, and currently Jeremy Peace at W.B.A and I hate to say it but until recently Steve Parish at Palace.
What's so bad about Arabs and Chinese or are you in a time warp,scarred by history and all thats great about Belgium!, Arabs done pretty good for Man City,may not be Chinese but Sheff Wed doing ok with Asian owners,Chelsea ain't done bad with a Russian or Bournemouth. Man Utd and Liverpool got rich Americans as does Arsenal as well as a Russian. Oh lets not forget those aliens at Southampton from Switzerland haha.
We had a whole Board full of Englishmen from 1995 until 2010 when they all left it to an Englishman,your Chairman, they invested more than you collectively £30mn in Equity and around £25mn in Loans,still outstanding some of them so you could buy the club a lot cheaper .But they all realised you can't run on a break even basis and world was global place with Billionaires(of which you are not one) who wanted to boost their egos with an English Club, so they were smart and said we can't make this work and stopped investing,well all except one.
So If I was you Roland I would pick up the phone and get Mr Varney on the line and find out if he has that Billionaire that we all crave,we want to watch a team with a winning spirit,ambition and yes academy players,but when they are ready,not thrown in deep end. Your plan will only cause you to lose all your money,if you go down you will bleed cash at a head spinning rate as crowds drop to 5,000 maximum and T.V Money drops by £10mn.
What are you waiting for pick up the phone.
Incidentally, he is surely taking the piss when he talks about him coming from a similar culture - in football terms, the bloke is from another galaxy ! Perhaps he could do all of us a favour and shuffle off back there.
https://chicagoaddick.wordpress.com/2014/05/27/alex-dyer-tells-all/
^ If you didnt read why Tony Watt left charlton. All behind the scenes etc interesting.
RD and his crazy ideas.
Im not even going to bother with the Powell stuff, that was simply just a load of gibberish and lies.
Really and truly, FFP is a good thing and if every club had to abide by it then it might be interesting and or more competitive (but maybe boring)
The problem is spending the money wisely and in the right areas. (directly related to the football) We are simply a shambles at that...so in the end FFP, whether in our favor or not, just becomes irrelevant. He wont stop going on about investment on the bloody pitch and stadium etc. Look at the league table, its time to stop making a prat of yourself now and get over that. Arguing these points and how terrible Charlton were before you bought us and how you pimped us up....no one cares and you are a fool for repeatedly bringing it up, especially at present.
“The main goal is that the fans and people see this as a place where they can have a great time - meet friends, enjoy the game, watch good football and see youngsters perform well.
“The question is what kind of football do you need? I think at the minimum Championship level. That’s what we definitely need.
“Then we have to see what will happen with this non-fair financial rules we have in the Championship and whether they will change or not. I hope they will, because it is a disaster for English football.
Im gana take what he says here at face value.
1st Sentence. The MAIN GOAL.....is just awful, the club has been going since 1905 it has history and is not something new, you cannot change it. Stop trying to outline reasons why people go to a football match its not going to differ in comparison to what it is now, why would it? Im pretty sure people already go charlton, meet friends and attempt to enjoy themselves etc. If that is the MAIN goal, something that already exists, then wow.
Why people go football matches? Its f*cking obvious, isnt it... What do you think has been the point of fans going Charlton? In its most simpliest form they usually want to see the team beat other teams and have success... which you don't understand or refuse to accept. Do you know what competition is Roland...do you know what it means to be competitive and be able to say "We are the best". Everyone strives for that and if there is no hope, even if the tiniest smallest percentage in that ever happening, then give up now.
He doesn't want people that attend charlton to be passionate fans. He wants that side of it wiped out. So sad.
A disaster for English football? You have only unsuccessfully spent 2 years being involved with English football and you don't even watch the games. Your opinion on it and how bad it might get, is irrelevant, and borderline nothing to do with you.
f*ck off you old c*nt
Even in saying that, this FFP interview has probably been Rolands best so far. The dickhead.