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Richard Murray Time To Speak

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  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    he is one of us and i'd like to think that if he jumps soon (all be it a bit later than many may have liked) he will be welcomed aboard our boat
  • cafcnutter
    cafcnutter Posts: 184
    I don't want to hear what he has to say anymore he repeats the same old tripe, now he's snuggling up to the regime the only thing coming out of his mouth is patronising lies. Time for him to go now.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    edited March 2016
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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Interesting development.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,866
    Hartleypete said:

    No goodwill left, the bloke is a complete and utter cretin. Not even the intelligence to get out before it got this bad.

    Seems he will prostitute himself to the Belgians for the sake of getting a few quid back.

    I have lost a lot of respect for Murray but "a few quid". I don't think so. Murray is probably ("probably" an assumption) in a high amount of debt. At the end of the day you have to look out for number 1...but the way he's going about it is really disappointing.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    What interesting development? Has he resigned?
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    Alwaysneil said:

    What interesting development? Has he resigned?

    Well I respect what Doucher says and he insinuates RM is about to detach from RD / KM. that to me is an interesting development
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    Ah ok yes that would be an interesting development.

    He'd need to resign as chairman/president or whatever his current job title is. But it would be good news.
  • GretnaGreenAddick
    GretnaGreenAddick Posts: 3,085
    The time for him to step away and join the fans passed months ago, about the same time he was going to the effort to defend the current regime & undermine the fans in public.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited March 2016
    AFKABartram said:

    Alwaysneil said:

    What interesting development? Has he resigned?

    Well I respect what Doucher says and he insinuates RM is about to detach from RD / KM. that to me is an interesting development
    The cynic in me says as he's going to be even farther away in L1 from the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow to get his £3m and knows it's only going to get worse, he's therefore ready to change horses now. Could this be an olive branch to Peter Varney? :open_mouth:
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  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,171
    DOUCHER said:

    he is one of us and i'd like to think that if he jumps soon (all be it a bit later than many may have liked) he will be welcomed aboard our boat

    Sorry, I'll be stood on the edge of the boat jabbing at him with the oar. He's jumped two years too late
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,888
    I thought he was slightly less than 100% behind KM (99% ?) at the November meeting and had a small hope that he was wavering but nothing has happened since. Maybe, just maybe, with more info to go on than us, he has reasoned that he has to time his departure (if that is what he is going to do) to coincide with a strategic weak point in RD's reign. Until now RD has always seemed remote and unaffected.

    Also, if he is 100% behind RD and his plan, why did he (apparantly) introduce potential buyers (as indicated by Airman Brown) ?
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    problem is, if we go down, which is odds on, rd is less likely to sell and if rm is not involved and has jumped, we have absolutely nothing but rd's lunacy steering the club - what real benefit would rm jumping actually provide other than maybe saving a bit of his own credibility?
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,004
    DOUCHER said:

    problem is, if we go down, which is odds on, rd is less likely to sell and if rm is not involved and has jumped, we have absolutely nothing but rd's lunacy steering the club - what real benefit would rm jumping actually provide other than maybe saving a bit of his own credibility?

    what benefit has it brought by him staying?
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    stonemuse said:

    DOUCHER said:

    problem is, if we go down, which is odds on, rd is less likely to sell and if rm is not involved and has jumped, we have absolutely nothing but rd's lunacy steering the club - what real benefit would rm jumping actually provide other than maybe saving a bit of his own credibility?

    what benefit has it brought by him staying?
    don't know but maybe the club would be / will be an even bigger disaster if its just the lunatics on their own

  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    AFKABartram said:

    Alwaysneil said:

    What interesting development? Has he resigned?

    Well I respect what Doucher says and he insinuates RM is about to detach from RD / KM. that to me is an interesting development
    Interesting indeed. Not interested in allowing any dialogue between Duchatelet and Varny but only a short time later decides to resign. Lost faith in the regime ? Needs to side with the lads ? Or something else that's related to not wanting Varney's people talking with RD.

    Or am I just a conspiracy theorist ?

  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    DOUCHER said:

    stonemuse said:

    DOUCHER said:

    problem is, if we go down, which is odds on, rd is less likely to sell and if rm is not involved and has jumped, we have absolutely nothing but rd's lunacy steering the club - what real benefit would rm jumping actually provide other than maybe saving a bit of his own credibility?

    what benefit has it brought by him staying?
    don't know but maybe the club would be / will be an even bigger disaster if its just the lunatics on their own

    Yet if Murray really wanted to help from the inside he could have facilitated communication between Varney and Duchatelet.
  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,888
    The Red Robin said:

    DOUCHER said:

    stonemuse said:

    DOUCHER said:

    problem is, if we go down, which is odds on, rd is less likely to sell and if rm is not involved and has jumped, we have absolutely nothing but rd's lunacy steering the club - what real benefit would rm jumping actually provide other than maybe saving a bit of his own credibility?

    what benefit has it brought by him staying?
    don't know but maybe the club would be / will be an even bigger disaster if its just the lunatics on their own

    Yet if Murray really wanted to help from the inside he could have facilitated communication between Varney and Duchatelet.
    But what if, at that time, he concluded that RD was not ready to consider selling or he just wanted his own preferred investor ?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    Hex said:

    The Red Robin said:

    DOUCHER said:

    stonemuse said:

    DOUCHER said:

    problem is, if we go down, which is odds on, rd is less likely to sell and if rm is not involved and has jumped, we have absolutely nothing but rd's lunacy steering the club - what real benefit would rm jumping actually provide other than maybe saving a bit of his own credibility?

    what benefit has it brought by him staying?
    don't know but maybe the club would be / will be an even bigger disaster if its just the lunatics on their own

    Yet if Murray really wanted to help from the inside he could have facilitated communication between Varney and Duchatelet.
    But what if, at that time, he concluded that RD was not ready to consider selling or he just wanted his own preferred investor ?
    Then why not get in touch with Varney?
  • andynelson
    andynelson Posts: 1,951
    In my eyes, if Murray does jump ship he deserves the credit which you'd give on the return of a prodigal son. It would be wonderful news, since it would a step to isolate the dynamic duo.
    Come on, Murray, Jump!
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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    queensland_addick said:

    Someone is going to have to crawl out of the woodwork and say something soon to address relegation and its implications for next season.

    I can honestly see nothing coming from the club were we to go down. Roland's statement was a huge self destruct for me. He's clueless as to what to do now. He was I think unaware of what hit him for the Boro game. Anyone on the inside will only see day to day what we all know. Absolute fucking shambles. The players know it.

    The long serving players know it's rotten to the core, there's not much else they can do, other than turn up for training and match days. We're playing badly, it's got a bit better but it's too late. The players will be going through the motions.

    Roland is clueless and that manifests itself all the way down. There is absolutely zero leadership. KM is woefully out of her depth, retreating fast. She honestly might as well only be there to receive my emails. Since we've sacked Luzon they've got nothing. Riga wasn't even wanted as the manager. He's only here because there's no one else in Roland's stable.

    Relegation will happen and at that point, if Roland had any shred of common sense left, he would say now is the time to sell. For him to hold on would be as detrimental to him, as it would to us.

  • mascot88
    mascot88 Posts: 9,616
    What if he has realized that there is simply no way that that is going to happen(Varney and Duchatelet to meet) and him removing himself from the situation is the best opportunity to get what is clearly needed, for the Belgians to chip off...

    Hmm ... Chicken and Egg...

    #wearesuchamess
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    Like Shane warne on that awful hair regain ad, RM could say it's the best thing he's done.

    It isn't of course, warne v getting is one of the best things he's done. RM shoeing in cash to keep the club alive is one of the best things he's done.

    But resigning would be another very good thing for RM to do (unlike the Shane warne regain ads which are broadly equivalent to resigning Johnson)
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,900
    The Red Robin said:

    DOUCHER said:

    stonemuse said:

    DOUCHER said:

    problem is, if we go down, which is odds on, rd is less likely to sell and if rm is not involved and has jumped, we have absolutely nothing but rd's lunacy steering the club - what real benefit would rm jumping actually provide other than maybe saving a bit of his own credibility?

    what benefit has it brought by him staying?
    don't know but maybe the club would be / will be an even bigger disaster if its just the lunatics on their own

    Yet if Murray really wanted to help from the inside he could have facilitated communication between Varney and Duchatelet.
    The Red Robin said:

    DOUCHER said:

    stonemuse said:

    DOUCHER said:

    problem is, if we go down, which is odds on, rd is less likely to sell and if rm is not involved and has jumped, we have absolutely nothing but rd's lunacy steering the club - what real benefit would rm jumping actually provide other than maybe saving a bit of his own credibility?

    what benefit has it brought by him staying?
    don't know but maybe the club would be / will be an even bigger disaster if its just the lunatics on their own

    Yet if Murray really wanted to help from the inside he could have facilitated communication between Varney and Duchatelet.
    but rd didnt want to sell then
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,024
    DOUCHER said:

    he is one of us and i'd like to think that if he jumps soon (all be it a bit later than many may have liked) he will be welcomed aboard our boat

    I'd think that very much depends on the manner of any exit. If he has lost faith in the Regime but does nothing to speed its demise and just slips away quietly, then no. If however he clearly sides with us and gives the fans some ammunition to use against Roly then it would be a yes from me. It's got to come from him first though, I don't think anyone's going to be saying, 'good old Richard' if he just disappears off the scene without doing anything to make amends.
  • InspectorSands
    InspectorSands Posts: 5,188
    DOUCHER said:

    The Red Robin said:

    DOUCHER said:

    stonemuse said:

    DOUCHER said:

    problem is, if we go down, which is odds on, rd is less likely to sell and if rm is not involved and has jumped, we have absolutely nothing but rd's lunacy steering the club - what real benefit would rm jumping actually provide other than maybe saving a bit of his own credibility?

    what benefit has it brought by him staying?
    don't know but maybe the club would be / will be an even bigger disaster if its just the lunatics on their own

    Yet if Murray really wanted to help from the inside he could have facilitated communication between Varney and Duchatelet.
    The Red Robin said:

    DOUCHER said:

    stonemuse said:

    DOUCHER said:

    problem is, if we go down, which is odds on, rd is less likely to sell and if rm is not involved and has jumped, we have absolutely nothing but rd's lunacy steering the club - what real benefit would rm jumping actually provide other than maybe saving a bit of his own credibility?

    what benefit has it brought by him staying?
    don't know but maybe the club would be / will be an even bigger disaster if its just the lunatics on their own

    Yet if Murray really wanted to help from the inside he could have facilitated communication between Varney and Duchatelet.
    but rd didnt want to sell then
    so... RD wants to sell now?
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,719
    I would like to think that Murray still wants the best for Charlton and if so I'm not sure even if he did jump the sinking ship that would be the best idea. keep your enemies close and all that. I doubt if he has much sway with Roland (I doubt if anyone has tbh) but there might still be a chance to offer Roland a way out with a deal that Murray could help bring to the desk of douch.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    Alwaysneil said:

    Like Shane warne on that awful hair regain ad, RM could say it's the best thing he's done.

    It isn't of course, warne v getting is one of the best things he's done. RM shoeing in cash to keep the club alive is one of the best things he's done.

    But resigning would be another very good thing for RM to do (unlike the Shane warne regain ads which are broadly equivalent to resigning Johnson)

    Did you just get an unwanted regain gift for your birthday?
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    edited March 2016
    To be fair to RM, I will reiterate he is not an employee, he is not paid and he doesn't own any of the club. I have no idea how he justifies to himself being on the board (it's not about money), but common sense says he will jump ship sooner or later.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    moutuakilla said:

    Alwaysneil said:

    Like Shane warne on that awful hair regain ad, RM could say it's the best thing he's done.

    It isn't of course, warne v getting is one of the best things he's done. RM shoeing in cash to keep the club alive is one of the best things he's done.

    But resigning would be another very good thing for RM to do (unlike the Shane warne regain ads which are broadly equivalent to resigning Johnson)

    Did you just get an unwanted regain gift for your birthday?
    Fortunately not required.

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