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Unfortunately I think Joshua left for planet AJ a while ago. The only hope he has against Usyck is to rough him up and that isn't Joshuas game, never has been. He's 6 foot five and hates, I mean is instantly made visibly uncomfortable in any tight spot, be that a shorter fighter putting his head on his chest and throwing combos, or a fast fighter not standing in front of Joshua like a pudding or someone who matches him for size and roughs him up.Croydon said:
Can't believe his team are stupid enough to try that same tactic againSELR_addicks said:
Can't wait for the rematch where Joshua will win even less rounds and get knocked out because his ego is so big he can't handle playing to his strengths.
He is naive in the extreme if he thinks he has a prayer against Usyck by trying to outbox him.1 -
He's an overrated prickCarter said:
Unfortunately I think Joshua left for planet AJ a while ago. The only hope he has against Usyck is to rough him up and that isn't Joshuas game, never has been. He's 6 foot five and hates, I mean is instantly made visibly uncomfortable in any tight spot, be that a shorter fighter putting his head on his chest and throwing combos, or a fast fighter not standing in front of Joshua like a pudding or someone who matches him for size and roughs him up.Croydon said:
Can't believe his team are stupid enough to try that same tactic againSELR_addicks said:
Can't wait for the rematch where Joshua will win even less rounds and get knocked out because his ego is so big he can't handle playing to his strengths.
He is naive in the extreme if he thinks he has a prayer against Usyck by trying to outbox him.3 -
Yeah like what’s he ever done over than win an Olympic gold and multiple world heavyweight titles without dodging opponents!!!blackpool72 said:
He's an overrated prickCarter said:
Unfortunately I think Joshua left for planet AJ a while ago. The only hope he has against Usyck is to rough him up and that isn't Joshuas game, never has been. He's 6 foot five and hates, I mean is instantly made visibly uncomfortable in any tight spot, be that a shorter fighter putting his head on his chest and throwing combos, or a fast fighter not standing in front of Joshua like a pudding or someone who matches him for size and roughs him up.Croydon said:
Can't believe his team are stupid enough to try that same tactic againSELR_addicks said:
Can't wait for the rematch where Joshua will win even less rounds and get knocked out because his ego is so big he can't handle playing to his strengths.
He is naive in the extreme if he thinks he has a prayer against Usyck by trying to outbox him.
How disrespectful… I’m sure you perfect in your career and your achievements are on par with AJ’s
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Joshua's only chance against Usyk is to improve his stamina and bully him from the off. He will never outbox him.1
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Joshua can be both a good boxer and overrated. He's not as bad as the rabid anti-Joshua people might try and claim... But he's not as good as some people (including himself, apparently) seem to think he is.
He really wants to be seen as a "proper" boxer not just a puncher but he's just not as skilful as that, as his last fight shows.0 -
He would earn more respect if he was to fight Fury or Wilder but he has been kept away from those two for a very good reason.1
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I don’t dislike Joshua as a person, my problem is he isn't the fighter he or his team seem to think he is and rightly or wrong depending on your viewpoint he has been very carefully managed in terms of opponents but thats hardly unusual for a ticket seller
I've said it before, Chisora showed how to at least make Usyck uncomfortable by throwing him around, roughing him up and physically dominating him. And that was a few fights ago, now Usyck has grown more into the weight and showed he still has the speed, guile and stamina at heavyweight.
Which I'd find a bit scary if I was any heavyweight other than Fury who I think is just too big for Usyck1 -
Fury can actually box and move around as well, and take a hit.0
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Josh Warrington to fight Kiko Martinez in March. Unfair I think on Lara, who deserves the title shot, after battering JW.2
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McBobbin said:Fury can actually box and move around as well, and take a hit.Yes he can - but even Fury would have big issues with Usyk's speed and movement.Is AJ a good fighter - yes, but not a great fighter. Is Fury a good fighter, most definitely but still short of the 'great' title. Usyk is a Hall of Fame fighter.All about opinions of course - which makes boxing such a great sport.1
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Agreed he’s not the perfect fighter but has done amazing with his athletic gifts, given he started very late.
People seem to treat it like it’s his fault he’s not as good as Usyk or Fury… what’s he supposed to do just give up. He didn’t dodge Fury did he? He signed the deal and Fury pulled out, how’s that AJ’s fault?
My issue is the same people all slagging him off now are the same people people that 4 years ago were all over him singing Sweet Caroline etc. When he was undefeated & blasting everyone. Fickle bunch
… and to call him an overrated prick is just wrong!0 -
Then I shall just call him overrated.Maccn05 said:Agreed he’s not the perfect fighter but has done amazing with his athletic gifts, given he started very late.
People seem to treat it like it’s his fault he’s not as good as Usyk or Fury… what’s he supposed to do just give up. He didn’t dodge Fury did he? He signed the deal and Fury pulled out, how’s that AJ’s fault?
My issue is the same people all slagging him off now are the same people people that 4 years ago were all over him singing Sweet Caroline etc. When he was undefeated & blasting everyone. Fickle bunch
… and to call him an overrated prick is just wrong!0 -
Not sure what anyone's own achievements have got to do with it.Maccn05 said:
Yeah like what’s he ever done over than win an Olympic gold and multiple world heavyweight titles without dodging opponents!!!blackpool72 said:
He's an overrated prickCarter said:
Unfortunately I think Joshua left for planet AJ a while ago. The only hope he has against Usyck is to rough him up and that isn't Joshuas game, never has been. He's 6 foot five and hates, I mean is instantly made visibly uncomfortable in any tight spot, be that a shorter fighter putting his head on his chest and throwing combos, or a fast fighter not standing in front of Joshua like a pudding or someone who matches him for size and roughs him up.Croydon said:
Can't believe his team are stupid enough to try that same tactic againSELR_addicks said:
Can't wait for the rematch where Joshua will win even less rounds and get knocked out because his ego is so big he can't handle playing to his strengths.
He is naive in the extreme if he thinks he has a prayer against Usyck by trying to outbox him.
How disrespectful… I’m sure you perfect in your career and your achievements are on par with AJ’s
Is he overrated? Yes. He certainly was. Many people were saying for a while that he's not as good as the hype.
Is he a prick? He's not everybody's cup of tea, like most boxers, divides opinion. I certainly don't like him, i never have.0 -
Fair enough if you don’t like him or rate him. But no need for the names and to knock his achievements - which are considerable.
I can’t stand Fury but I can still accept he’s a world class heavyweight.0 -
Really surprised Galahad didn't take the rematch, he was in total control until that punch was landed. Guess he's moving up weight.Croydon said:Josh Warrington to fight Kiko Martinez in March. Unfair I think on Lara, who deserves the title shot, after battering JW.
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I love AJ, seen some cracking fights of his including against Klitschko (about as exciting as it gets), and his fights against Parker and Ruiz II show he has developed. But he is limited and got it all wrong against an exceptional talent in Usyk. Really, the top heavyweights should have fought each other by now, that's the biggest frustration (see also the lightweights and Spence/Crawford).0
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Really surprised Galahad didn't take the rematch, he was in total control until that punch was landed. Guess he's moving up weight.Croydon said:Josh Warrington to fight Kiko Martinez in March. Unfair I think on Lara, who deserves the title shot, after battering JW.
Yeah not been officially announced but he is going up. Makes sense as he looked awful on the scales.1 -
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Indeed. Another sport would have to step up to replace the dazzling amount of bent judging that we have become all too accustomed to.bobmunro said:I can see no way that it won’t be added at a later date in all honesty.0 -
Problem is boxing is so, so corrupt that even the IOC have gotten sick of it. Which granted is rich coming from them but you know where I'm going.bobmunro said:
Boxing News did a great piece on the ridiculous openly accepted nonsense that goes on and to be fair to the editor he has always banged that drum and pissed off various sanctioning bodies and if you are pissing them off you are doing something right. The sport is unclean
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Yes it is, and was ever thus.Carter said:
Problem is boxing is so, so corrupt that even the IOC have gotten sick of it. Which granted is rich coming from them but you know where I'm going.bobmunro said:
Boxing News did a great piece on the ridiculous openly accepted nonsense that goes on and to be fair to the editor he has always banged that drum and pissed off various sanctioning bodies and if you are pissing them off you are doing something right. The sport is unclean
But I still naively try to see the sport through rose tinted glasses and memories of the greats winning Olympic Golds - Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Whittaker, De La Hoya, Lewis, Loma, Usyk - the great Cubans Stevenson, Savon, Kindelan and so on.1 -
Eubank really doing the business against Williams. His speed is far superior and Williams is just getting countered time and time again. Great performance so far.2
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Williams just not on the same level. Walking on to those counters0
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He's trying but this is a mis-match.0
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Amazing timing, all 3 knock downs it looked like he'd barely been touched1
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Timing beats speed and he's countering has been on point tonight. Good game plan.
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Good couple fights coming up on DAZN tonight, especially the main event.Really hope Ryder can overcome Jacobs and get some bigger fights. Felt for him after that Smith fight last year.
Treble for me:
Cash PTS
Fisher KO
Jacobs PTS0 -
Cash got away with one there i think. Draw would of been fair after the 2 knockdown and point deduction.
Fisher looks like going distance.
Think ryder might have to much for jacobs who's last 2 performances lead me to think he's on the slide0 -
Khan vs Brook this weekend and I have to say say I wasn’t initially, but now I am looking forward to it. Press conference was quite entertaining today.
I do think it’s a 50/50 fight. The longer the fight goes on, the more I’m favouring Khan. Expect Kell will start the better and put the pressure on but fade eventually.How do you see it?2 -
Can see brook on points. Yes it's 5 years late but it'll be fun and I want to watch it0
